acting beta gets the girl?

[pyros]

I was just wondering...

Normally I try to avoid any action that I consider beta like calling too much, or too often etc. because I think and believe that it turns off the girl etc

but...did it ever work for you? I mean, did you ever meet a girl and contacted her the next day, set up a date ... then contacted her almost everyday etc and you ended up banging her?

I see beta behaviour everyday, beta guys everyday with cute girls so...
I've never acted really beta cause it is does not fit my personality except on a very few occasions.

For example, I met this chick last night, and now I am waiting two days before I contact her eventhough I'd like to contact her now, and go on a date tomorrow, and bang her this following week lol.

Did it ever work fine for you?
I was planing on acting kind of beta for once just to see the result, instead of keeping this 'alpha' attitude full of rules like:
waiting a few days to contact her
not complimenting her too much
acting aloof
leading her
etc

 

[zinc4]

Being beta is simply doing things to appease or impress others or being insecure/needy....being alpha is simply doing what u feel like without being needy...I don't thing you can really act such and such...you either are or Ur not...

 

[jurry]

Being beta can certainly work and get you girls, however you are more likely to end up in a situation where you get hurt. You will be the one chasing, you will be the one more emotionally invested, with more desire, etc. the "alpha" thing is more about self control and keeping you from being too attached to any one girl.

 

[pyros]

see this, I met this chick last night and...according to all these DJ rules etc, if I contacted her today, this would make her see me as desperate, afc, etc etc, and then everybody here would say that I turned her off because I contacted her too soon.

so what Im asking is, would it really turn her off if I contacted her today instead of following these dj rules? Ive always tried to avoid beta actions but... not so sure about some of them.

 

[No.Danny]

An alpha has no rules. He follows his own.
DJ rules are the training wheels

 

[bcollarmechanic]

it different between each girl, take this story, this happened a few years ago

im hanging in my car with a few of my buddies at wendys, this chick comes up to the window and knocks on it, its about 10.30 pm, shes an easy 8, and the conversation goes like this- me=m her=h

h- hey sorry to bother you but do you have any sweet and sour i can have, i ran out and i love that stuff

m- (i pull two s and s out of my bag) i have two but if i give them to you what do i get in advance

h- (giggles) idk what do you want

m- i think a kiss is more than fair enough

h- (giggles) how about i give you my number first

m- well one s and s is worth the number 2 is worth a kiss

h- well its a good thing i only need one (giggles)

so she gives me her number and walks back to her car with her friends, my friends are laughing and **** that i got her number but then she comes back and knocks on my glass again

m- let me guess you need the second s and s

h- no i just wanted to say to text me within an hour after you leave, i hate giving my number out and guys wait days to text, if you do that ill ignore you

m- i dont text but ill call you later tonight

h- ok

so i did call her, got some phone sex and even a few nudes, i did set up a date but after we met for the date it quickly went down hill from there and i didn't even get any action, but that's a differnt stroy for a different day

moral is feel it up with each girl, some hate waiting and some like playing the game, what ive learned is the higher her looks is like a 8-10, the more likely she likes to play the game, the lower her looks like a 5-7 the less likely shes into games, there's a lot more that plays into it too

how experienced in the dating world is she, i was able to take a 7 in bed in HS being completely beta and needy because she didnt know any better, i was her first everything, even her first kiss

you have to keep an eye out for how she dresses, how much make up she wears, the friends shes hanging out with, designer sunglasses, coach purse, jewelry, these are things that can give good signs away

 

[Epimanes]

I believe it depends on a number of things such as where she is in her cycle, if she's already experienced too much alpha and needs some beta relationship comfort.

Alpha and beta is required in long term relationships. You need a balance of both for proper relationship maintenance. If you just meeting a woman alpha may work for a while but eventually she will need some beta and depending on the chick maybe she needs more beta and bring in the good alpha traits a bit later once she is more comfortable.

All about balance.. Too much of either trait and it won't last.

 

[expos]

Being beta is simply doing things to appease or impress others or being insecure/needy....being alpha is simply doing what u feel like without being needy.

This x1000000000000

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I think some of you guys need to learn how to take advice and put your own philosophies and spin on it that works best for you. You can still be an alpha and be "nice" follow your gut its your internal compass.

 

[VladPatton]

Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta...attraction trumps all. It is better for you, as a man, to be a so called alpha with certain alpha, manly characterizations. But, for getting the girl? Pfft...You can mouth-bang her mom on an inflatable cushion during gramma's 100th birthday party and if she'll thinks you're cute, you're in like Flynn.

 

[VikingKing]

I was just wondering...

Normally I try to avoid any action that I consider beta like calling too much, or too often etc. because I think and believe that it turns off the girl etc

but...did it ever work for you? I mean, did you ever meet a girl and contacted her the next day, set up a date ... then contacted her almost everyday etc and you ended up banging her?

I see beta behaviour everyday, beta guys everyday with cute girls so...
I've never acted really beta cause it is does not fit my personality except on a very few occasions.

For example, I met this chick last night, and now I am waiting two days before I contact her eventhough I'd like to contact her now, and go on a date tomorrow, and bang her this following week lol.

Did it ever work fine for you?
I was planing on acting kind of beta for once just to see the result, instead of keeping this 'alpha' attitude full of rules like:
waiting a few days to contact her
not complimenting her too much
acting aloof
leading her
etc

Sometimes its just trial an error. We are all individuals, and women are as well. In general women respond to the same things, but it may be to different degrees.

I've tried this. You can fake a little beta, like throwing bait.

You have to have her interested in you first, for aloofness to be effective.

Think about it this way though. If you are putting this much effort into acting alpha, or beta, or w/e than your putting her on a pedestal regardless of how you "act". It my work though, but after a while she will figure it out if you're not being congruent.

Don't plan so far ahead.

You know addicts think differently than non-addicts.

An addict thinks about step 1, 2, 5, 34, 20 and 3 in that order. A non-addict thinks about step 1, 2, 3, ect at the appropriate time.

Don't get so far ahead of yourself, don't over analyze, less thinking will probably help.

 

[gravityeyelids]

There's always exceptions that pay off in rare cases.

It's like texas holdem. Holdem is about making the best possible choice in a particular circumstance given all the knowledge you have at that point. And it's about making these smart choices consistently. Sure, you might be tempted to call a bet and play a hand which you have no business being in. And in the short term, HEY, you might just win a hand or two. Sure, you'll play against morons who play a pair of aces the way they play a flush. And guess what? They might win a big hand against you playing that way. That doesn't mean it's the right way. In the long run if you don't play the odds in the right way, consistently, then you will lose, consistently.

 

[asa_don]

when you're good looking none of this sh!t matters at first, calling everyday etc, thats why the guys who preach that stuff are full of sh!t, if a chick wants you she wants you, it's your beta behavior that turns her off later on, not the first few weeks when she is digging you, it will matter as you continue to date, then the chick will get tired of you, that's why betas are the doormat in relationships whio get dumped, dont be that guy.

still you shouldn't act like a beta because it will hurt you.

most of this beta stuff is overplayed, guys worry about too much insignificant sh!t, they are not having fun, having fun is what it's all about, if you're not having fun something is wrong, instead of thinking too much, just do it, you will get better results.

just have a good mindset, then you are good to go.

 

[Evan]

when you're good looking none of this sh!t matters at first, calling everyday etc, thats why the guys who preach that stuff are full of sh!t, if a chick wants you she wants you, it's your beta behavior that turns her off later on, not the first few weeks when she is digging you, it will matter as you continue to date, then the chick will get tired of you, that's why betas are the doormat in relationships whio get dumped, dont be that guy.

still you shouldn't act like a beta because it will hurt you.

most of this beta stuff is overplayed, guys worry about too much insignificant sh!t, they are not having fun, having fun is what it's all about, if you're not having fun something is wrong, instead of thinking too much, just do it, you will get better results.

just have a good mindset, then you are good to go.

This man gets it.

 

[VikingKing]

when you're good looking none of this sh!t matters at first, calling everyday etc, thats why the guys who preach that stuff are full of sh!t, if a chick wants you she wants you, it's your beta behavior that turns her off later on, not the first few weeks when she is digging you, it will matter as you continue to date, then the chick will get tired of you, that's why betas are the doormat in relationships whio get dumped, dont be that guy.

still you shouldn't act like a beta because it will hurt you.

most of this beta stuff is overplayed, guys worry about too much insignificant sh!t, they are not having fun, having fun is what it's all about, if you're not having fun something is wrong, instead of thinking too much, just do it, you will get better results.

just have a good mindset, then you are good to go.

I dont advocate acting beta at all. But think about it, if you're good looking I would think women might assume you are a player.