A simple tip to deal with flaking.

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Flaking is a natural part of the game. I have been clubbing over 1000 times in my life. Anyone who has been clubbing this many times know that flaking is quite common.

Ok let me set up the typical scenario of the flake.
You meet a girl, have a nice convo with her you get the digits, you call her and then she flakes. In other word she never calls you back.

After this happens I have a system that will get a girl to respond to your second call 85% of the time. And can probably get you a date 20% of the time.

After getting flaked on you have a pic on your phone where you look good. And send her the pic along with the message saying. WTF look at how good looking I am and no call back.

I have tried this recently on 10 different girls and have got respones from all 10 of them.

This is effective because it shows the girls
1. What you look like.
2. Shows you are confident.
3. Shows you have a good sense of humor.

Obviously you want a pic where you look good. To the guys that get flaked on try this system and let me know if you get a response.
 

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why would any guy tolerate even ONE flake experience from a new woman? Are they so desperate for female attention that they will overlook bad behavior?
 

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KillaPetehog said:
Don't think of some elaborate setup that's gonna come out fake or make you look insecure. Just DROP them.and for the LOVE OF GOD, don't try to get a girl that ALREADY FLAKED on you. Have some dignity. Go for the women that are genuine and like you for who you really are. None of this fake bullshyt.

Who cares if I come out looking fake or insecure. I am a Lion-we as men are king of the jungle and can do what we want. Woman worry about looking insecure.

This tactic is for woman you meet off of a cold approach-Clubs-coffeeshops-bookstores-streets. Girls you will never see again.

Not all woman I have fvcked are genuine. If I was looking to fvck genuine woman then I would still be in the single digits. For a GF yes a genuine woman with a HIGH INTEREST LEVEL in you is one of the most important things.
 

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persistent exaction said:
why would any guy tolerate even ONE flake experience from a new woman? Are they so desperate for female attention that they will overlook bad behavior?

Because if you read all the posts on sosuave with people that share there reallife experiences on coldapproaching it seems very few of them get dates and get laid off of the cold approach.

Who the fvck cares about bad behavior off a girl I just met at a club or a coffeeshop. What constitutes bad behavior if a girl wants to fvck on the first date then thats bad behavior, but I will fvck her.

Again this tip is not for girls you have been out on a date with and have flaked on you.


This tip is for girls you meet off a coldapproach and they flake on you once after the initial phone call. If a girl has flaked on you once try this and then move on.
 

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You are qualifying yourself for her. If the chick flakes on you, then she has low interest level, and it's not worth your time. The only proper message to send her is that you are trying to reach her, with perhaps a hint that her not at least responding to you is rude.
 

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Lookyoung has field-tested this advice at least ten separate times and received satisfactory results.

Yet everyone wants to tell him why it's "un-DJ". :rolleyes:
 

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I think a lot of people in here don't understand that cold approaches in fukking clubs are very low success rate. Chicks are getting hit on by guys all the time in clubs. The hot ones get half a dozen phone calls the next day from AFCs they met. Are they going to follow up with all of them? No. Most times not even one since they already have an entire lineup of booty calls.. more than they need. What makes you so special if all she knows about you is that you are just another random good looking guy she talked to for ten minutes? Lookyoung is simply suggesting a way that made him stand out compared to the other chumps who didn't do or say anything that actually caught their attention. Sure, he's overtly qualifying himself, but showing interest in a creative fashion isn't always a bad thing. Once her interest is piqued, you can always swing the power balance back in your favor.
 

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If there is one thing I have learned lately its that you don't always automatically send a chick packing if she flakes once in the beginning. I can see how this could work.
 

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and for the LOVE OF GOD, don't try to get a girl that ALREADY FLAKED on you. Have some dignity.
Lookyoung was talking about women who don't call you back right away.

I think you're talking about women who make plans with you and change their minds. You really should give up on them.
 

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blueguy said:
Once her interest is piqued, you can always swing the power balance back in your favor.

So true. This method is not going to get you a date 100% of the time. But it will probably get you some type of response at least 65% of the time.

Once you get a response there is a good chance you will talk to her on the phone and if your a good phone talker you could land a date which could lead to pu$$y.

With this technique you have a 20% chance to land a date.

With Killapetehogs technique you have a 0% chance.

This technique takes 10 seconds. Pic on phone-add comment-hit send.
 

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Why is this even an issue? If someone doesn't want to date you then that's fine. Also, there are men/women who have more going on their lives than go around dating or looking for dates. For me if a girl flakes or acts disagreeable, I just shrug it off and start planning on the next girl.

Killapetehog, I don't understand your "interest level" thing. Girls can fake interest just to keep the guy stable within a relationship, I'd rather go on "Do our conversations suck" or "Do our personalities click together" Usually when I'm in a broken relationship, I noticed that half the chicks pretend that everything is dandy or they put more effort. I do like your "Seek a lady for yourself" and "You do not seek to please a lady for her." statement.
 

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Killapete says this is

1. Begging.- How the fvck is this begging? Are you kidding me? This is not begging. I never beg anyone for anything.

2. This tip assumes your going for one girl.- No you can use this tip on every girl that flakes on you. Whether it be 3 or 100.

3. Only woman send pics on the phone real men don't do that ****. Sending a pic has nothing to do with being a real man.

4. If she thought I was fly she would have called me.-If she has an interest level of 85% and above yes she will call. Usually a girl will not have this high of an interest level in you off of a cold approach. That is why the cold approach has a high flake rate.

5. I go for woman that show strong interest. So do I. But if I meet a girl at a club have a convo with her and she shows me moderate interest and I want to tag it then I will go for her to.

6. I don't go for woman that put me in second place. When you meet a girl off of a cold approach there is no second place.

7. You do not qualify yourself for a girl. She qualifies herself to you.
Have you ever done a cold approach? When doing a cold approach you are qualifying yourself to the girl.

KILLAPETEHOG- Your reading way too much into this. Who gives a fvck about low interest level or high interest level off a girl you just met. (dating is a different story)
 

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Lookyoung has field-tested this advice at least ten separate times and received satisfactory results.

Yet everyone wants to tell him why it's "un-DJ".
Not knocking lookyoung's field tested experience, but it seems immature, and embarrassing especially for a refined man. If it works great !! but I think what separates us (mature men) from the typical idiots , we know we can get women and how to get women, we know all the games and tricks and different tactics...but We should strive to be above that.

I'm gonna agree with KillaPetehog, this thread is better suited for AFC rookies, not a mature man who does not need to get pussy by any means necesary.
 

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I'm inclined to disagree with this tip too. It sounds like something guys do back in high school.

I agree it demonstrates a bit of humor on your part. But I don't see how it demonstrates confidence.

I guess if you're not gonna see the girl anymore, you have nothing to lose by doing it. But it's clearly not what a confident guy who scores women constantly would do.
 
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its a good tip, because this isnt about girls that FLAKE, its simply about girls who DON’T CALL BACK (sorry lookyoung, but that’s not actually flaking, that’s just bad phone etiquette. And it does not take a lot of time to take a pic and send it to an unlimited # of girls spam style with the same funny ****y message........almost no time or effort is wasted on this, but the end result could be a number of those bad phone etiquette girls calling u back. The idea here is to act like you dont care and to NOT OVERANALYZE
 

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Actually you are begging her to date you and it looks pathetic trust me. Why you ask well its simple you got a few girls numbers called them up and they didnt answer because they might have been busy doing something else or they just didint want to answer, who cares. Point of the matter is you send them a pic saying hey look at me I'm hot date me, what the girl reads is hey look at me im hot but im needy and insecure please date me.

Your already qualifying yourself to her so that SHE dates you, you need to change your game so that THE GIRL qualifies herself to date you, see the difference there. The way your doing it it makes her the prize and thats shouldnt be the case.

Bottom line is if the girl isnt into you move on one chance per girl per life time. You have more important things to do then chase up a girl that doesnt return your calls, you should call her leave a voice message which is short and to the point then move on. She may call you up later on in the next few weeks if you made a good impact on her when you first met her if not next.

Oh another thing cold approaching does not have high flake rates its lame game that has high flake rates if your game is tight every approach will land you the numbers and you'l leave the girl with a big impression on her that you are something weird and different that she's never ever met and might not ever find again.
 

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And if anyone comes here and says it still gets him pu55y then your dumb remember its quality not quantity that counts, I'd rather do a quality girl who has high self esteem then some cheap run of the mill average chick, keep the standards high.
 

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typical said:
Oh another thing cold approaching does not have high flake rates its lame game that has high flake rates if your game is tight every approach will land you the numbers and you'l leave the girl with a big impression on her that you are something weird and different that she's never ever met and might not ever find again.

Are you active in the game? Do you actually cold approach?

No matter how tight your game is or how goodlooking you are the success rate is usually pretty low in a coldapproach. I have been in this game for 15 years. If you can land a date with 30% of the girls you coldapproach then you are a world class PUA.


BTW you say that you have success in every approach. Why don't you go to the local starbucks and the local borders and make 20 approaches then report your success to sosuave.:)
 
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