Its seems like every other thread in this forum is about picking up chicks using online dating sites. A real player wouldnt waste his time on those sites. He has the game to go outside and get numbers with ease. If you guys have so much "game", why are you wasting your time emailing online attention *****s?
A Real Don Juan doesnt have to use Online Dating sites
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5string
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It's just another source for poon, that's all.
well, good for the "real players."
I don't have a boatload of game and will be the first to admit it.
It enables us to get "better" at gaming women and being less nervous around them. 2 years ago I was always a nervous wreck....now I'm not.
Mostly from what I learned here and the ease of getting to that first date which online dating offers.
Online dating is NOT a substitute, merely a stepping stone for those like me.
Not utilizing it would be dumb.
I don't have a boatload of game and will be the first to admit it.
It enables us to get "better" at gaming women and being less nervous around them. 2 years ago I was always a nervous wreck....now I'm not.
Mostly from what I learned here and the ease of getting to that first date which online dating offers.
Online dating is NOT a substitute, merely a stepping stone for those like me.
Not utilizing it would be dumb.
The women on those sites are usually fat or/and have a boyfriend and are just looking for some attention. I'd rather go out in the real world and get 10 numbers with high interest in a day than have to get online and send out hundreds of emails just to get 10 numbers with low/medium interest.
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The problem is many of the guys here arent utilizing it as a stepping stone. They get comfortable using these dating sites instead of getting out in the field because emailing a girl is easier than leaving your house and approaching women in social settings. so these guys will spend YEARS on dating sites and will not upgrade their game.
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Most women online are teases and attention wh0res. I dated one last Saturday and the b!tch hadn't spoke to me since. I can't trust b**ches. This is why I keep my heart so damn locked up.
Give me a break, we're not talking about two different species here; internet chicks and real life chicks all want the same thing: Attention.
Here's my deal with online sites; yes I use them for one simple reason.
It's working while I'm not.
Put together a GOOD profile, not some mis-spelled, ugly picture, "I'm an AFC who just wants to find a good woman" bullsh!t. If they're down they'll send you a message and you can work from there, maybe you check out a few cuties and send them messages but none of this crafting your life story stuff.
Thing is, all the DJ rules still apply:
She blows you off? Next.
She expects you to pay? Next.
Looking for her soul mate? Next.
Needs a surrogate dad for her kid? Next.
I agree its way too easy to hide behind a keyboard, but online sites are just a tool, and while some people are dependent on them, I use it to supplement my game and increase the amount of pvssy I bring in.
Here's my deal with online sites; yes I use them for one simple reason.
It's working while I'm not.
Put together a GOOD profile, not some mis-spelled, ugly picture, "I'm an AFC who just wants to find a good woman" bullsh!t. If they're down they'll send you a message and you can work from there, maybe you check out a few cuties and send them messages but none of this crafting your life story stuff.
Thing is, all the DJ rules still apply:
She blows you off? Next.
She expects you to pay? Next.
Looking for her soul mate? Next.
Needs a surrogate dad for her kid? Next.
I agree its way too easy to hide behind a keyboard, but online sites are just a tool, and while some people are dependent on them, I use it to supplement my game and increase the amount of pvssy I bring in.
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I use online dating sites when I'm not able to go out and sarge. I do it when I'm working out of town, I have my kid (and he's asleep), when I can't sleep, or holidays when everything is closed.J Roc said:
There's nothing wrong with trying out the internet. The problem is the odds are stacked against every guy who uses it. You're competing with a shipload of desperate horny AFCs who have the ba11s to hide behind a computer monitor while approaching women, but have no real life game when it comes to meeting them in person.
I've had lousy success with online dating services despite having a damn good profile. I generally have successful continuous conversation with one in every 50 women I contact. I have better odds going out and doing cold approaches.
AFCs fvck up a lot of things up for us. They fvck up our desire to give nice things to women because they make it into a transaction (buying her 5hit equals winning her over.) They swarm around hot women on the internet, constantly sending messages and chat requests.
Online dating is simply another channel to meet women. It should NOT be your only source for it.
Anytime someone ties to tell you what a "real" X would do. Ignore the sh1t out of them. Every time someone has told me that, they were trying to push their ideals on me, or trying to manipulate me into doing something. If they can't talk without heavy handed manipulation like a woman, they they should not be listened to.
Test theories, use what works for you. Discard the rest.
Test theories, use what works for you. Discard the rest.
Anytime someone ties to tell you what a "real" X would do. Ignore the sh1t out of them. Every time someone has told me that, they were trying to push their ideals on me, or trying to manipulate me into doing something. If they can't talk without heavy handed manipulation like a woman, they they should not be listened to.
Test theories, use what works for you. Discard the rest.
Test theories, use what works for you. Discard the rest.
The online dating scene has changed alot in the last ten years. Back then things were pretty much evenly stacked beteen men and women. A couple of months ago I wrote a thread on the very subject and how so much easier it was to pickup women online.
Thanks to the hordes of AFCs that have joined these sites since then, things have now tilted very much in favor of women and its much harder to game even average looking girls unless you happen to really stand out either through looks, wealth and/or both.
I read somewhere that the average guy must send out about 400 messages just to get one response. To me thats plain crazy.
My rate of return is much higher but I dont even bother to message women anymore. Its become almost pointless.
Like one of the posters suggested, you are more likely to meet a quality girl and establish a meaningful relationship by going out in the field than waiting to meet her online.
Thanks to the hordes of AFCs that have joined these sites since then, things have now tilted very much in favor of women and its much harder to game even average looking girls unless you happen to really stand out either through looks, wealth and/or both.
I read somewhere that the average guy must send out about 400 messages just to get one response. To me thats plain crazy.
My rate of return is much higher but I dont even bother to message women anymore. Its become almost pointless.
Like one of the posters suggested, you are more likely to meet a quality girl and establish a meaningful relationship by going out in the field than waiting to meet her online.
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Young women on POF do this sh*t and older women do it too! Thankfully this girl treated me. But since she stopped speaking to me, I deleted her number and all her pics she sent me. F**k that ho!J Roc said:
Most women in Atlanta are like this. But you should know that already.
I gotta rep this!
Iceberg
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Of course it's good to go out into social settings and really interact with women. That's a necessity. But a guy like me can do both. Right now I dont have time for online dating, but I've done it. And I've gotten a ridiculous amount of sex off of it. And I can go out to bars and pull girls as well.J Roc said:
So, yeah, when you get up on your high horse talking about what "Real Don Juans" do....(by the way, I'd never refer to myself as a Don Juan)....it just makes me hit the mute button. I'm Iceberg. I do whatever works for me. The "Real Don Juans" can go play by their own rules.
It's a good point if you're buying dinner for chicks you've only met once.f283000 said:
Out of who-knows-how-many dates I've been on, maybe 3 have involved dinner.
Dinner dates are reserved for girls I've at least banged. There are no free meals. The most a girl might get out of me is 3 free beers. Which I can handle. But if a girl is hanging out with me for 3+ beers, chances are something is going to happen anyway.