A Rant on Highways, Speeding, and Trucks.

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Speeding

I've had only a handfull of tickets in my life, but the 1's I've gotten were at utterly stupid and pointless times, which highlighted how tickets are scam used to generate tax revenue that you can't fight or avoid without some effort or time off from work.

Why is speeding on a highway an offense?

Seriously. If my trip is 80 miles long, and a cop catches me doing 80-85, say passing some big trucker or slow mom-mini van over the course of 1000 feet, is that my EFFECTIVE speedlimit, or just my INSTANTANEOUS speedlimit? I'm no inclined to say...No I was not doing 80, maybe for 1000 feet, but my car says the average speed I was doing was 72 officer. Is that ok?

I've never understood how several hundred dollar tickets that are handed out like newspapers are legit, when trips lasted hundred of miles. If you want ticket INSIDE cities, communities, etc, go for it. Drop the speed limit there, too. I think 30-35 is probably TOO high for cars to be whipping around near homes. I saw a poor girl get hit, her shoes going flying onto the roof of a nearby house b/c some girl was crossing the street at an angle and the oncoming car couldn't see that well around a curve. Yet she was likely doing the speed limit. What gives? On the highway...there biggest danger isn't me speeding, it's everyone else. Even in bad weather, bad weather is ok...so long as no one else is around, if they are, everyone goes slower anyways, or they just don't travel.

This will probably never get changed, unless we bump the speed limit to 80, but still. I don't like going over 75, or 80, yet I see people do it all the time. If you want to risk it, fine. Not me. I don't like the wear on my car, and I'd rather throw on Flord or DMB and chill, or listen to SIRIUS than drive like a cruise missle.

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Truckers

So I'm driving to my gf's house just before 24 comes on, just after the gym. I'm nearly late because 20 or more 18 wheelers decide it's time to leave the rest area and go wherever they might be going. My first thought was..."this must be what it was like when LITTLE dinosaurs travelled alongside Brontosauraus', and T'rex's. I was totally surrounded for 2 lanes. It's illegal in MA for a trucker to TRAVEL in the 3rd left passing lane. Their passing lane is the middle 1. YET, the truckers dominated the 1st 2, making it DAMN near impossible for people to get on, AND, harder for people to just CRUISE, because these guys were moving like freightrains. For vehicles carrying HEAVYloads, they sure do press the metal to the floor.

And that's when I wondered...why is it ok for these COMMERICAL trucks of this size, which are as big or bigger than 1 freight train car, and probably more dangerous, to travel with passengers like me? I don't have a private plan, and if I did, I'd need special licensing, money, etc to do it. I don't have my own train to run alongside Amtrak. I don't have my own bus. Yet, these HUGE trucks, which have nearly 5x the wheels I do, that barrel to and fro, in neighbhorhoods that are bit too small for them, over highways at extreme speeds, taking up the space of 4 cars+, are allowed to travel with the general population.

Not only was I squeezed to the 3rd lane and had to blast off to pass the group at 85+ miles to make my exit, or risk getting boxed in in the right 2 lanes, but this gets to point 1. They're rather nuts, and I always wonder... are they tired? could they be drunk? It wouldn't take much for them to nudge me off the highway and send me into the afterlife. All I hear on Sirius radio are ads for trucking jobs. I realize, it's the main vehicle for transport of goods, but there must be another way. It doesn't make sense that commercial transport of THAT size is allowed with small class vehicles. Otherwise, they should specify a CERTAIN time such vehicles can drive, like 2-5am or something, or a special HIGHWAY lane built on to the main throughfare. It's bad enough when a trucker spills oil on the highway, jack knifes, gets stuck under a bridge, or just 'taps' a car, but their presence is dangerous to all. They make getting on tough, they make passing tough, they make getting off the highway tough, they fling up TONS of dirt, rain, and snow at cars next to them and behind them.

What gives? I'm sure some of you have family that may be truckers, as they get paid ok, but still. It would be like having nuclear reactors or chemical factories in every town, and we know how well that goes over.

/rant off

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Speeding: Get a radar detector
Trucks: Yeah most of the truck drivers try to intimidate other cars. Cut em off and make them slam on their brakes. Haha.
 

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Add holes in the asphault and you're more than welcome to Brazil!!!! :D
 

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Ooh, man, I can :cuss: for hours about it.

A-Unit, this is all circular. Just as fines generate revenue, all the trucks burn diesel. Trucks destroy the roads, which in turn employs many to fix the roads. Destroyed roads destroy cars, which need to be fixed - parts, mechanics, etc. Trucking companies employ the drivers, and mechanics. Economy, economy, economy. Gotta get those goods going fast, fast, fast!

NONSENSE! No, A-Unit, trucks do not need another separate travel way - there already is one. It's called a "train". There is nothing, I say again, NOTHING shipped via truck that wouldn't be done better, and safer, than a train. But, shipping by train isn't popular because it's not popular...

This fries my brain to no end. The fact that in Madison, they passed an "train horn" ordinance to ban the use of horns on trains. Um, that's a federal law passed for the sake of safety, and some uptight retards didn't want to hear the noise, so they just banned it? Then, the start ripping out rails to put in neat bike trails... then complain about a lack of public transportation and too much traffic on the roads?

The ripping out train tracks hurts my head the most: it makes shipping by train even further from becoming popular again. In these days of environmental concern, you would think that shipping by train would make a comeback. A train can carry more than a 1000 trucks, and use about as much fuel as 10. If anything, more tracks should get put in to support local routes.

It's a ridiculous tradgedy.

With modern technology, the railroad industry has the capacity to be far faster than trucking, far more economical, far more environmentally friendly, far safer, and much, much more flexible. Freight and passengers on the same rails? Less fuel consumption? Less pollution? And if you want to consider things like monorail applications, electric, underground, and biodiesel applications...

Surely you can see just how obnoxious the whole "trucking industry" truly is.

Sorry A-Unit, I don't mean to rub salt in your wound. But, I too hate semi's with a passion. Too much destruction, too much inconvenience, too unsafe, and far too little benefit to warrant having them around.

It is my personal opinion that, given the railroad is floundering so, the government (yes, the government, you'll see why) should step in and purchase all rails and moderate them just as the do the highway system. That way, tracks are public, and routes can expand. Also, the DOT can regulate travel, impose restrictions for the sake of safety, and maintain/build track. Dollars that would be used to repair roads destroyed by trucks and to moderate trucking would go a lot further if directed to rail and it's promotion. If that were to happen, the US would benefit, as would the entire world. It's true - think about it.
 

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Sure, interstate highways are designed to be safely driven at speeds upwards of 90 MPH, but posted speed limits always need to be somewhat slower than the maximum safe speed. Regardless of how accommodating are city planners towards speed limits which maximizes a road's fastest safe potential, just about everyone will drive faster. Speed limits are speed minimums just as college essay minimum word lengths are treated as maximum word lengths. Of course, fines are caluculated on the assumption going 5mph over the speed limit was as though you were 5mph above the actual safe speed limit, thus why fines are so heavy, but semantically what can you do.

Two months ago I got my first speeding ticket after nine years of driving and under very weird circumstances. I was shocked by the price but I suppose I had it coming.

I'm sure you'd love it down in Florida where speed limits tend to be 70-80mph and in some places 90 mph.
 

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They purposely set the speed limits really low so they can pull people over and make money off the tickets.
 

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Re:

/agreed.

I "forgot" to pay a ticket.
They doubled it, then tacked on a re-registration fee.
Seems I didn't have a license for about 2 weeks.
Fortunately, I didn't get pulled over, otherwise, who knows...

The ticket was bogus, as I was doing...80, 85? It was black friday, going by outlets in south eastern MA, and the cop had a speed trap. He jumps to the middle lane, flags me over, and BAM...ticket. He did bump it from 85 to 80, saving me a steeper fine, only to forget to pay it on time and pay way more than it would have been. Course, I'm the ahole who helps alert everyone behind us, because I got hit first, and then people knew to slow down.

It's definately a revenue generator while they're on duty waiting for REAL stuff to happen.

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I think we should loosen the speed limits a bit. Let cars go at 100mph on normal roads, and 75mph on small streets.

However, to prevent reckless driving, we should give the death sentence to anyone who causes an accident with fatalities. That way you don't end up with bozos running kids over outside schools.
 

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[RANT ON]I hate minivans driven by soccer mom's who talk on their cell phones and drive way to slow. If I see a guy driving a minivan I always chuckle to myself, cause that is not a man's car.
 

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I have a different spin on this than most of you. Aside from the film/video production biz I own and operate, I work for a major truckload carrier in central FLorida ( I don't have to tell you what insurance costs to self insure as an LLC. Besides my company got bought out by Fed Ex last year. Insurance benefits are out of this world! ) Truck drivers are a completely different breed of animal. They're completely nomadic by nature and do not like having someone looking over thier shoulder which is exactly what I do all night.

The DOT has very exact and specific regulations regarding the Hours of Service drivers are allowed to run in a 24 hour period. Drivers are legally only allowed to run 14 hours in one day. Only 10 of them driving. Let me explain. The 14 hour rule is designed for drivers to run safely but they must take a break which is referred to as sleeper berth. Every minute of a drivers day must be accounted for in his log book. If a driver is DOT'ed (pulled over and spot checked by highway patrol) he must account for his drive time. ALL PICK UPS AND DELIVERIES also fuel and maintenance stops must be properly logged. Of course, it's well known that most drivers run 2 log books. One legal, one not-so legal.

Point I'm making is that truck drivers (specifically coast to coast truckload which is what we do) are so scrutinized that if they piss without saying anything they can be fired. Are the the safest drivers I know? Most are. When I see a truck with a 53' trailer behind him I give them much space. I don't want to tell you what a blown recap at 65 mph will do to your car . . .
 

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KarmaSutra said:
When I see a truck with a 53' trailer behind him I give them much space. I don't want to tell you what a blown recap at 65 mph will do to your car . . .
Oh yeah, having a 'gator come flinging through your windshield and casually lopping your head off? No thanks - I stay far away from semi's.

My car will change lanes underneath some trailers Smokey and the Bandit style, though. It reminds me of the elephant and mouse.

A little gust of wind, a deer jumping out in the road, snow chains falling off, sheets of ice sliding off the top of the trailer, etc. I've heard and seen far too many fuxed up things to not be deathly afraid of trucks.

I saw a deer jump out in front of a semi, get exploded into a huge red cloud, then the blown-up carcass flung into another car... that car was going the other direction on an interstate! Carnage!
 

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I saw a deer jump out in front of a semi, get exploded into a huge red cloud, then the blown-up carcass flung into another car... that car was going the other direction on an interstate! Carnage!
*tries to visualize that..*
 
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