A New Type Of Creatine What Oo You Think?

[LoneSilver]

I went over to T-Nation and read up on this new type Creatine. What is your opinion on newer supplements that come on the market to help build muscle do you think it's state of the art or just another marketing hype?

Will you try this new one?

LoneSilver


http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1196017

 

[Heart Break Kid]

It's not a new creatine. It's a formula containing a non-essential aa that's supposed to impact bodybuilding the same way creatine has. Apparently there are a lot of studies on it. It seems like it could be beneficial but I'll stick to whey, creatine and rippetoe! Plus creatine has a lot of obscure benefits aside from more muscle strength.

 

[blinkwatt]

It's a pill=hard on your liver=not worth ANY benefit it can offer,provided it does.

 

[Fred Da Head]

Aaaaah the BS starts.

Anyway, this is yesterday's news.

 

[Warboss Alex]

It's a pill=hard on your liver=not worth ANY benefit it can offer,provided it does.

Sometimes you post good stuff blink. Then sometimes I TRULY have to wonder where the fvck you get your information from.

 

[Redux]

I cant acess t-nation. What is the aa? leucine?

 

[blinkwatt]

Sometimes you post good stuff blink. Then sometimes I TRULY have to wonder where the fvck you get your information from.

Pills(not softgels) are hard on your body to break down,

http://www.galttech.com/research/health/vicodin.php

"Also, this drug is hard on your liver so you will want to avoid this pain kille if you have liver issues."

 

[Warboss Alex]

Pills(not softgels) are hard on your body to break down

MOST pills break down in a glass of warm water (if they don't, they're a sh!tty pill). if plain water can do it, no way your body would have problems. I don't buy that at all.

 

[Fred Da Head]

Pills(not softgels) are hard on your body to break down,

http://www.galttech.com/research/health/vicodin.php

"Also, this drug is hard on your liver so you will want to avoid this pain kille if you have liver issues."

Wow, what a completely unrelated reference. We're talking about a supplement--not even a drug--and you bring up a hard, prescription-only painkiller. It's not the fact that it's a pill that makes it a problem, it's what's in the pill.

Do you think that if you put sugar in pill form and take them, your liver will suddenly explode? Hey, it's in pill form, it's hard for your body to break down and it'll hurt your liver!

 

[simon]

Wait...you're comparing taking this supplement to taking vicodin? Vicodin is hard on your liver because of the way it's metabolised, not because it's in a pill. Jesus. You need to read a book on biology.

 

[Warboss Alex]

damn, i didn't even read the link. lol. I'm glad I didn't.

 

[Throttle]

hey, in all fairness to blink, the cottage cheese & salsa tip was great.

at least, that's what i hear.

 

[blinkwatt]

It's not just Vicodin.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6399773.stm

More an more articles and different test results pop up over time.

"But nutritionists said it reinforced the need to eat a balanced diet, rather than relying on supplements."

This is where fruits come in.

 

[blinkwatt]

hey, in all fairness to blink, the cottage cheese & salsa tip was great.

at least, that's what i hear.

Lol I don't eat cottage cheese so that one wasn't me.

 

[Warboss Alex]

This is where fruits come in.

fruits play a major part in a balanced diet but not just them: you need veggies, animal proteins and fats, essential oils, nuts/seeds..

 

[simon]

You've taken a huge leap from taking pills, to taking vicodin, to taking multivitamins. You cannot compare taking vicodin to taking a multivitamin.

There are biochemical reasons for beta-carotene and vitamin E showing an increase in certain diseases.

Beta-carotene for one acts as a pro-oxidant in the lungs, hence why it increases lung cancer incidence in smokers. It doesn't put any 'strain' on your liver. What are we supposed to do, stop eating carrots, plums, peas, sweet potatoes and everything else with beta-carotene in because there's the slightest chance that I may just, maybe possibly have a HUGE 4% increase in risk of dying if I'm a smoker?

Studies like that are hugely unreliable since they rely on people following things properly. They also don't take into account other variables like diet, exercise and lifestyle which can have a huge effect on disease incidence, and also the forms of vitamins used can have a big effect on how they act in the body. Was the Vitamin E dl-alpha, d-alpha or alpha, beta and gamma? Reading a news article on the abstract of a meta-analysis doesn't tell you that.

Of course vitamins cannot replace a good diet, that's exactly why vitamins are SUPPLEMENTS because they SUPPLEMENT an already good diet. The people who rely on vitamins to cover up their crap diets are at increased risk of disease anyway. If they don't eat well it's highly likely that they don't exercise well and don't rest well and don't manage their stress properly.

Good luck on trying to get all your minerals from fruits.