A girl's perspective on boundaries

[Atom Smasher]

LOL, just got a neg rep from peaksandvalleys with an admonishment to "open my eyes".

This stuff is too funny... Neg reps remind me of a little girl slapping a man.

+1 to peaks for the entertainment.

 

[dasein]

Weak insecure men set boundaries out of fear

Yeah, no straw man there at all.

This issue, and this thread is no different, is like telling a moron acquaintance you are thinking of getting a dog.

"Hey, I'm thinking of getting dog, what do you think, German Shepherd or Lab?"

"A RHINOCEROS? WHO THE F WANTS A PET RHINOCEROS? You can't even get one of those, that's just ridiculous!"

A short boundaries talk when she presses for exclusivity is for you, your convenience, your avoiding drama, your getting back to the unexclusive condition rapidly and conveniently that you should rationally want as a man with options.

Guru said somewhere in this monstrosity that (para) he pities people who enter into ANY relationship in life with expectations without negotiating those expectations. Women, business, family, friends, cops, robbers. People who do not exercise rational efforts at controlling their negotiations, and EVERYTHING IS A NEGOTIATION, deserve exactly what they will get in the long run, a life that "runs" them instead of a life they run.

 

[Darth]

My opinion, and I don't mean to offend, is that this is a non-issue to people with natural social intelligence.

 

[sylvester the cat]

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[guru1000]

You know what's interesting:

Although I hate ascribing intelligence to writing/rhetorical ability, but it seems that the most intelligent, and thus accomplished, posters on this site, irrespective of age, are in the "pro-boundary" side, and the least intellectually adept are in the opposing team. Does anyone notice this? Two attorneys, Pairs and Dasein, and other accomplished men such as Danger, Atom, Zekko, myself vs. Sooli, Jurry, and Peaks.

Perhaps there is a stronger correlation than I thought between imposing boundaries in, and thus "running," life and intelligence/ financial success. Not to be construed as a shaming tactic, just an interesting observation.

 

[Soolaimon]

This thread needs to be closed already, been given more than enough leeway

Why should it be? Another boundary thread will pop up and the same discussion will take place since there's been over 12 already. It might as well stay here.

Danger asked for his questions to be answered and they were. I asked Danger to answer some questions so I should have the same courtesy extended without this thread being locked as a form of censorship.

Yeah, no straw man there at all.

This issue, and this thread is no different, is like telling a moron acquaintance you are thinking of getting a dog.

"Hey, I'm thinking of getting dog, what do you think, German Shepherd or Lab?"

"A RHINOCEROS? WHO THE F WANTS A PET RHINOCEROS? You can't even get one of those, that's just ridiculous!"

A short boundaries talk when she presses for exclusivity is for you, your convenience, your avoiding drama, your getting back to the unexclusive condition rapidly and conveniently that you should rationally want as a man with options.

Guru said somewhere in this monstrosity that (para) he pities people who enter into ANY relationship in life with expectations without negotiating those expectations. Women, business, family, friends, cops, robbers. People who do not exercise rational efforts at controlling their negotiations, and EVERYTHING IS A NEGOTIATION, deserve exactly what they will get in the long run, a life that "runs" them instead of a life they run.

Another boundary crew guy with nothing valid to say following all the nonsense of Guru.


I remember in High School when guys were starting a relationship with a girl. They felt insecure of another guy she liked. They saw him as a threat. So they told her not to see or hang out with that guy. The girl agreed cause she liked him more.

That is a boundary folks!

Guess what happened after that?

The girl started to get feelings for the other guy and saw him without the boyfriend knowing.

She broke the verbal boundary with ease and broke up with the boyfriend for the other guy.

Girls have done this since High School and you guys think they won't do that to you if they wanted to?

That's how ignorant and delusional you guys are.


dasein believes that his "relationship terms" that he negotiated before the relationship will still stick when his woman has lost interest in him and wants another man mid relationship.

That's the delusion that these boundary guys have.

They think "their "terms" will always be followed even when the woman loses interest.

When the woman loses interest in you "the terms" you negotiated at the beginning isn't going to matter to her anymore making your boundary useless..

The same thing would happen not negotiating any terms at all.

They all have failed relationships with boundaries but still think they are going to have different results. That's insane!

But that is all "straw man" according to them.

 

[Starwolf]

I've always gotten crap from gf's if they saw me texting another girl who was just a friend or if some girl was getting to chatty with me.

they want me to stop talking to them or want me to stop hanging out with them. or they just don't like the girl.

one time an ex browsed my phone and saw a pic a girl had sent. She got so pissed, wanted me to delete the girls nr. Later she even sent me a boob shot herself telling me hers was better. :crackup:

My point is when you have a girl that is so in to you wanting you all for herself she doesn't even have to know what the definition of exclusivity is. It's clear as daylight that she wants you and you alone.

So why would you be fearful if she is going out or you see some chump trying to put the moves on her. At that the moment You are the only one who makes her "vage tingle"

And no, this is not a Unicorn woman. Women still fall in love like this. actually in the beginning stages of relationship a lot of women are totally fcking crazy about you and you alone... with some it just lasts longer... with others it's over in a month

and for that no amount of boundaries will change it... i'll say it again...when you feel you even start to think about boundaries with ur gf... Go dust off those game skills,... Someone about to be Soltero and Hittin the clubs/bars Againn :rockon:

 

[TarantulaHawk]

Why should it be? Another boundary thread will pop up and the same discussion will take place since there's been over 12 already. It might as well stay here.

Danger asked for his questions to be answered and they were. I asked Danger to answer some questions so I should have the same courtesy extended without this thread being locked as a form of censorship.





Another boundary crew guy with nothing valid to say following all the nonsense of Guru.


I remember in High School when guys were starting a relationship with a girl. They felt insecure of another guy she liked. They saw him as a threat. So they told her not to see or hang out with that guy. The girl agreed cause she liked him more.

That is a boundary folks!

Guess what happened after that?

The girl started to get feelings for the other guy and saw him without the boyfriend knowing.

She broke the verbal boundary with ease and broke up with the boyfriend for the other guy.

Girls have done this since High School and you guys think they won't do that to you if they wanted to?

That's how ignorant and delusional you guys are.


dasein believes that his "relationship terms" that he negotiated before the relationship will still stick when his woman has lost interest in him and wants another man mid relationship.

That's the delusion that these boundary guys have.

They think "their "terms" will always be followed even when the woman loses interest.

When the woman loses interest in you "the terms" you negotiated at the beginning isn't going to matter to her anymore making your boundary useless..

The same thing would happen not negotiating any terms at all.

They all have failed relationships with boundaries but still think they are going to have different results. That's insane!

But that is all "straw man" according to them.

Sooli have you ever had to dump one of your high value yes women who just know and why? Or do they dump you?

 

[Starwolf]

Sooli have you ever had to dump one of your high value yes women who just know and why? Or do they dump you?

why are you stressing about this? dumping a women can be done for any number of reasons.

also even if he found out she was for example sending some flirty messages to some guy on her phone.

and he dumped her without a word. Would it matter if he did call her on it. Had a big discussion about it?

now he's with a girl who he knows is starting to lose interest..why bother going on.

he saved himself the drama and just moved on.. She can go cry and figure it out by herself.

Stop asking this question man

 

[TarantulaHawk]

why are you stressing about this? dumping a women can be done for any number of reasons.

also even if he found out she was for example sending some flirty messages to some guy on her phone.

and he dumped her without a word. Would it matter if he did call her on it. Had a big discussion about it?

now he's with a girl who he knows is starting to lose interest..why bother going on.

he saved himself the drama and just moved on.. She can go cry and figure it out by herself.

Stop asking this question man

I asked Sooli. But thanks for answering for him.

If he had dumped her for any reason without a word than she obviously broke a boundary in his exclusive relationship that she should have just "known" not to do according to the type of high value women he claims to get due to his high value.

Therefore either soolis value isn't as high as he claims or these high value women he dates don't just "know" just off his high value alone.

I mean sooli is trying to claim the high value women he exclusively dates should "just know"...

 

[dasein]

I remember in High School

What's that, three, four years ago? Grats on your long term memory. Too bad about the functional illiteracy though. Do they still make "Hooked on Phonics?" Maybe give that a whirl. Avoid any standardized tests of reading comprehension in the interim.

What part of "not as an attempt to regulate behavior, but as a convenience factor and drama avoider" do you just not get? I didn't read the whole thread, so others may have different reasons for enforcing boundaries, but those are mine. I made that infinitely clear in simple, plain English, so get it right before crafting another wall of drivel in response to something I've posted.

To repeat, people who do not exercise rational efforts at controlling their negotiations, and EVERYTHING IS A NEGOTIATION, deserve exactly what they will get in the long run, a life that "runs" them instead of a life they run.

 

[zekko]

LOL, just got a neg rep from peaksandvalleys with an admonishment to "open my eyes".

Wtf?!?

Although I hate ascribing intelligence to writing/rhetorical ability, but it seems that the most intelligent, and thus accomplished, posters on this site, irrespective of age, are in the "pro-boundary" side, and the least intellectually adept are in the opposing team. Does anyone notice this? Two attorneys, Pairs and Dasein, and other accomplished men such as Danger, Atom, Zekko, myself vs. Sooli, Jurry, and Peaks.

Well, it's hard to argue with that.

It's like Smasher's recent thread about kicking life's @ss instead of letting it kick yours. We have all gone out to some extent and TAKEN what we wanted, we have all bent the world to our will. No surprise that we do the same with our women.

This thread needs to be closed already, been given more than enough leeway

I've never understood why some people are so interested in stopping other people's discussions. If the topic doesn't interest you, why are you reading it? Go read the thread about the girl who won't svck the guy's d!ck if that's more your thing.

My point is when you have a girl that is so in to you wanting you all for herself she doesn't even have to know what the definition of exclusivity is.

Sigh. I can't believe people are still saying this when it's so clear that it isn't true. UNLESS you are a guy who wants her hanging out with male friends and orbiters, because then it doesn't matter to you.

So why would you be fearful if she is going out or you see some chump trying to put the moves on her.

Of course some dude is going to try to put the moves on her, that's what guys do with attractive women. But she shouldn't be putting her self into disrespectful situations either. It's not about being "fearful", it's about having my relationship the way I want it.

 

[VikingKing]

:box: :box: :box: Loud Noises!

You know what's interesting:

Although I hate ascribing intelligence to writing/rhetorical ability, but it seems that the most intelligent, and thus accomplished, posters on this site, irrespective of age, are in the "pro-boundary" side, and the least intellectually adept are in the opposing team. Does anyone notice this? Two attorneys, Pairs and Dasein, and other accomplished men such as Danger, Atom, Zekko, myself vs. Sooli, Jurry, and Peaks.

Perhaps there is a stronger correlation than I thought between imposing boundaries in, and thus "running," life and intelligence/ financial success. Not to be construed as a shaming tactic, just an interesting observation.

But in a way sooli, jurry, and peaks are right but not in the way they think they are.

Most women in western culture will not respect boundaries, because they are trash women who should be only used as *** dumpsters. Most western women are not worthy of any relationship or commitment from any man.

Now a respectable, sane, healthy, normal woman will have no problem staying with in the boundaries because she is not screwed up in her head and recognizes that its the right thing to do. Women don't think logically as much as men do. They follow their feels. This is why men have to lead, and women should always follow.

Most women are trash these days it gets worse with every generation in the west.

The women who would be best for a relationship come from countries where women are not spoiled and t, taught to respect men(Not spoiled). Otherwise you better just deny women commitment.

So if you think that its useless to state your boundaries to a gf, then you shouldnt be committing to her or taking her seriously what so ever, you should be just using women like that for your entertainment.

 

[Soolaimon]

Peaks expects the woman to "police herself" and if a guy comes around who makes her gina tingle or whatever, then he expects her not to hang out with her. If he's a weak Herbert, apparently it's okay.

Looks like Zekko has just confirmed for us that his boundary is used to "control his woman" and to "contain her" since he is the "policeman" policing all of his woman's activities. That is pathetic and very beta.

I've said this from the get go about these boundary guys. Glad he has just confirmed that for us in his own words.

Apparently Zekko can't figure out that his woman can still hang out with the men she talks to on the phone that makes her "gina" tingle without him knowing even though he set his boundary.

Tell me something Zekko...if your woman is totally incapable of "policing herself" who does the "policing" for her when you aren't around to "police her"?

Guru said somewhere in this monstrosity that (para) he pities people who enter into ANY relationship in life with expectations without negotiating those expectations.

Well Guru isn't much of a "guru" when he writes this garbage and you believe in his fallacies such as this.

"Verbal negotiations and expectations" are made each day while men get fvcked over in the process.

Women can "verbally agree" to be faithful one day and fvck another guy the next day. What good is your verbal "expectations" and "negotiations" when women can easily dismiss them?

Women, family, friends, business partners, strangers can still screw you over with just "verbal negotiations and expectations" when they don't take them seriously as you do.

You can take your relationship super seriously. When the woman isn't taking it as seriously as you your "expectations" and "negotiations" don't mean $hit.

Women, business, family, friends, cops, robbers. People who do not exercise rational efforts at controlling their negotiations, and EVERYTHING IS A NEGOTIATION, deserve exactly what they will get in the long run, a life that "runs" them instead of a life they run.

Everything is a negotiation eh? False.

Robbers? WTF?

So are you telling me a robber is going to knock on your door and negotiate the terms of the robbery to you in a detailed explanation before he commits the crime? LMAO. Or is he going to sneak in at night and take all your stuff without you knowing?

That's just like your beta and delusional mind set with women.

Is your woman going to negotiate the terms of her cheating on you with how she plans on having sex with another man going into a big detailed explanation? Or is she going to sneak around behind your back and bang him when you're not the wiser?

Just cause you conduct "negotiations" and have "expectations" of a woman that doesn't mean she will follow "the rules" and will live up to them.

A short boundaries talk when she presses for exclusivity is for you, your convenience, your avoiding drama, your getting back to the unexclusive condition rapidly and conveniently that you should rationally want as a man with options.

You and the rest of the boundary crew have no other options. That's why you are trying to lock down your only option to the boundary to control her so she doesn't stray.

If you guys had many options you wouldn't give a $hit about boundaries or what she "might do" cause you can drop her in one second for another woman if she misbehaves for your many other options.

Discussing "relationship terms" with her before the relationship when her interest is high doesn't matter when her interest fades weeks later and she is into another man. You're still going to have the drama that she brings that won't be avoidable. Your "little talk" you have before will not eliminate any drama when she brings it. What an idiot!

For those of us who do NOT tolerate our women hanging out with male friends, then we might mention it.

It doesn't matter that you do NOT tolerate your women hanging out with male friends. She will hang out them if she wants to no matter what expectations you have of her or how many terms you defined to her.

You said you have no problem with her talking to male friends and orbiters on the phone.

But you have no clue that she can still hang out with them without you knowing even though you don't tolerate her doing that.

Now I think that my expectation of "no hanging out with male friends one on one" is much simpler and easier for the girl to do, than to run every guy she meets through a filter and then decide if he is a threat to the relationship or not. Especially when you throw women's emotions into the mix.

Zekko is clueless again to the fact his woman could have already hung out with "a male friend one on one" without him knowing making his expectations and boundary useless since he lets her talk to her male friends on the phone.

Sooli have you ever had to dump one of your high value yes women who just know and why? Or do they dump you?

Looks like you have that backwards.

You and your boundary buddies have the "yes" women cause you need them to say "yes" to all "your terms" cause you're too scared of losing them to other men in the relationship.

The point is women will still break "relationship terms" after agreeing to them cause all women have free will unless they are being totally controlled by you. Not sure why you and your buddies can't understand that simple concept of reality.

Every girlfriend I had knew what an "exclusive relationship" meant and I didn't have to inform them like you guys do and the relationships ended not cause they broke "boundaries".

I asked Sooli. But thanks for answering for him.

If he had dumped her for any reason without a word than she obviously broke a boundary in his exclusive relationship that she should have just "known" not to do according to the type of high value women he claims to get due to his high value.

What a bunch of ignorant nonsense LOL..

Obviously you never been in a relationship before or always have been cheated on cause you have no idea that relationships don't have to end due to a woman breaking a "boundary".

Therefore either soolis value isn't as high as he claims or these high value women he dates don't just "know" just off his high value alone.

I mean sooli is trying to claim the high value women he exclusively dates should "just know"....

I think it's pathetic that you (and the others) feel the need out of fear to tell grown adult women that fvcking other men besides you in an "exclusive relationship" isn't acceptable and you need to "police" all their activities to feel secure about yourself.

You have zero value if you have to tell a woman not to "fvck other men" and keep a woman who wants to stray locked down to your boundaries. Secure confident men of value do not do that. Only weak insecure betas of no value do out of fear.

If a woman doesn't know that fvcking another man while she is in an exclusive relationship with you is wrong and you guys feel the need to inform her of that then you are dating an idiot and you all deserve what you get. That's why all your previous relationships failed.

So you tell your woman you don't tolerate her seeing other men. She knows "your terms".She bangs another guy anyway. What did your little boundary talk accomplish for you by informing her of that?

Not a damn thing!

What's that, three, four years ago? Grats on your long term memory. Too bad about the functional illiteracy though. Do they still make "Hooked on Phonics?" Maybe give that a whirl. Avoid any standardized tests of reading comprehension in the interim.

What part of "not as an attempt to regulate behavior, but as a convenience factor and drama avoider" do you just not get? I didn't read the whole thread, so others may have different reasons for enforcing boundaries, but those are mine. I made that infinitely clear in simple, plain English, so get it right before crafting another wall of drivel in response to something I've posted.

To repeat, people who do not exercise rational efforts at controlling their negotiations, and EVERYTHING IS A NEGOTIATION, deserve exactly what they will get in the long run, a life that "runs" them instead of a life they run.

Another post of yours with no substance. The rest is useles drivel. Have fun negotiating "terms" that she can easily ignore when she doesn't respect you enough. Like that hasn't happened to you before LOL.

 

[Starwolf]

Sigh. I can't believe people are still saying this when it's so clear that it isn't true. UNLESS you are a guy who wants her hanging out with male friends and orbiters, because then it doesn't matter to you.

Of course some dude is going to try to put the moves on her, that's what guys do with attractive women. But she shouldn't be putting her self into disrespectful situations either. It's not about being "fearful", it's about having my relationship the way I want it.

but that is the point Zekko, if she wants to be with you she won't put herself in disrespectful situations. I've never had to tell a girl that was invested where she can and cannot go.

It's like you do not know what a respectful women is anymore. Your 54 dude ..surely in your early days you must have met some very traditional women who know their place is at home with their man.

Did you really feel the need to also discuss boundaries with these women when starting a relationship? you must know this man before all the women became sloots boundaries was not an issue. Be honest!

i'm from the Caribbean where there are still a lot of good girls around. And i can clearly feel the difference when dating a goodgirl vs a slvtty/*****y one.
the goodgirl doesn't need to be tought what exclusivity means.. With the slutty one i won't even bother... she is just entertainment you can't make a wife out of a h0

I can imagine that over there in the states sloots are the majority. but you have to admit that when you meet those rare respectful women u do not need to go over boundaries.

level with me zekko.. you know what i'm talkin about

 

[Starwolf]

double post

 

[zekko]

Most women in western culture will not respect boundaries, because they are trash women who should be only used as *** dumpsters. Most western women are not worthy of any relationship or commitment from any man.

That's true, but those aren't the kind of women that you get into relationships with. This is why you screen women. Why would anyone get into an exclusive relationship with trash?

So if you think that its useless to state your boundaries to a gf, then you shouldnt be committing to her or taking her seriously what so ever, you should be just using women like that for your entertainment.

Good point, very true.

but that is the point Zekko, if she wants to be with you she won't put herself in disrespectful situations. I've never had to tell a girl that was invested where she can and cannot go.

Not everyone considers a girl hanging out with a male friend as disrespectful. And it isn't just modern slvtty women either, I've seen movies from the 40s where women go hang out with their male friends. Now me, personally, I will not tolerate a woman who spends time one on one with male friends. But I would daresay that for most guys today, that is considered perfectly respectful behavior. If no one thought that it was, I wouldn't have to verbalize my boundary, but since I am probably in the minority, I do. This way they know how best to please me.

Seriously, I think everyone who posts in this thread should state whether or not they would tolerate their wives or girlfriends hanging out one on one with male friends. That is male FRIENDS, not lovers. Could be an ex, I suppose, though. Knowing where people stand on this would be a lot more informative on where they're coming from, instead of reading their post blind.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Why should I need respect from some who does not respect integrity and purposefully quotes out of context in a deceitful manner?

How was that out of context?

Do you read what you write?

"purposefully quotes our of context in a decitful manner"

Wouldn't that statement alone describe half of your posts here?

Besides, I quoted the section that was relevent. It wasn't out of context at all.

This stuff is too funny... Neg reps remind me of a little girl slapping a man.

What do positive reps remind you of?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

You know what's interesting:

Although I hate ascribing intelligence to writing/rhetorical ability, but it seems that the most intelligent, and thus accomplished, posters on this site, irrespective of age, are in the "pro-boundary" side, and the least intellectually adept are in the opposing team. Does anyone notice this? Two attorneys, Pairs and Dasein, and other accomplished men such as Danger, Atom, Zekko, myself vs. Sooli, Jurry, and Peaks.

Perhaps there is a stronger correlation than I thought between imposing boundaries in, and thus "running," life and intelligence/ financial success. Not to be construed as a shaming tactic, just an interesting observation.

Hey, I've heard of plenty of rich guys that have their 'trophy' wives that they set rules for, expectations, blah blah. As long as she has the black Amex, it's all good.

I get where YOU are coming from here.

 

[TarantulaHawk]

Looks like Zekko has just confirmed for us that his boundary is used to "control his woman" and to "contain her" since he is the "policeman" policing all of his woman's activities. That is pathetic and very beta.

I've said this from the get go about these boundary guys. Glad he has just confirmed that for us in his own words.

Apparently Zekko can't figure out that his woman can still hang out with the men she talks to on the phone that makes her "gina" tingle without him knowing even though he set his boundary.

Tell me something Zekko...if your woman is totally incapable of "policing herself" who does the "policing" for her when you aren't around to "police her"?





Well Guru isn't much of a "guru" when he writes this garbage and you believe in his fallacies such as this.

"Verbal negotiations and expectations" are made each day while men get fvcked over in the process.

Women can "verbally agree" to be faithful one day and fvck another guy the next day. What good is your verbal "expectations" and "negotiations" when women can easily dismiss them?

Women, family, friends, business partners, strangers can still screw you over with just "verbal negotiations and expectations" when they don't take them seriously as you do.

You can take your relationship super seriously. When the woman isn't taking it as seriously as you your "expectations" and "negotiations" don't mean $hit.






Everything is a negotiation eh? False.

Robbers? WTF?

So are you telling me a robber is going to knock on your door and negotiate the terms of the robbery to you in a detailed explanation before he commits the crime? LMAO. Or is he going to sneak in at night and take all your stuff without you knowing?

That's just like your beta and delusional mind set with women.

Is your woman going to negotiate the terms of her cheating on you with how she plans on having sex with another man going into a big detailed explanation? Or is she going to sneak around behind your back and bang him when you're not the wiser?

Just cause you conduct "negotiations" and have "expectations" of a woman that doesn't mean she will follow "the rules" and will live up to them.





You and the rest of the boundary crew have no other options. That's why you are trying to lock down your only option to the boundary to control her so she doesn't stray.

If you guys had many options you wouldn't give a $hit about boundaries or what she "might do" cause you can drop her in one second for another woman if she misbehaves for your many other options.

Discussing "relationship terms" with her before the relationship when her interest is high doesn't matter when her interest fades weeks later and she is into another man. You're still going to have the drama that she brings that won't be avoidable. Your "little talk" you have before will not eliminate any drama when she brings it. What an idiot!






It doesn't matter that you do NOT tolerate your women hanging out with male friends. She will hang out them if she wants to no matter what expectations you have of her or how many terms you defined to her.

You said you have no problem with her talking to male friends and orbiters on the phone.

But you have no clue that she can still hang out with them without you knowing even though you don't tolerate her doing that.






Zekko is clueless again to the fact his woman could have already hung out with "a male friend one on one" without him knowing making his expectations and boundary useless since he lets her talk to her male friends on the phone.





Looks like you have that backwards.

You and your boundary buddies have the "yes" women cause you need them to say "yes" to all "your terms" cause you're too scared of losing them to other men in the relationship.

The point is women will still break "relationship terms" after agreeing to them cause all women have free will unless they are being totally controlled by you. Not sure why you and your buddies can't understand that simple concept of reality.

Every girlfriend I had knew what an "exclusive relationship" meant and I didn't have to inform them like you guys do and the relationships ended not cause they broke "boundaries".





What a bunch of ignorant nonsense LOL..

Obviously you never been in a relationship before or always have been cheated on cause you have no idea that relationships don't have to end due to a woman breaking a "boundary".





I think it's pathetic that you (and the others) feel the need out of fear to tell grown adult women that fvcking other men besides you in an "exclusive relationship" isn't acceptable and you need to "police" all their activities to feel secure about yourself.

You have zero value if you have to tell a woman not to "fvck other men" and keep a woman who wants to stray locked down to your boundaries. Secure confident men of value do not do that. Only weak insecure betas of no value do out of fear.

If a woman doesn't know that fvcking another man while she is in an exclusive relationship with you is wrong and you guys feel the need to inform her of that then you are dating an idiot and you all deserve what you get. That's why all your previous relationships failed.

So you tell your woman you don't tolerate her seeing other men. She knows "your terms".She bangs another guy anyway. What did your little boundary talk accomplish for you by informing her of that?

Not a damn thing!





Another post of yours with no substance. The rest is useles drivel. Have fun negotiating "terms" that she can easily ignore when she doesn't respect you enough. Like that hasn't happened to you before LOL.

Sooli it's been long apparent the only thing you are in an exclusive no boundaries relationship with is strawmen.