9 phone numbers = ???

DonGorgon

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so last saturday i went to a night club and got 9 phone numbers of hb7s to hb9s... i danced with each girl and mad basic conversation before number closing..

here are the results..

1. wrong number. actually a wrong number phone service...lol

2. no answer or call back
3. no answer or call back
4. no answer or call back

5. answered asked who i was, i told her then she hung up..lol no call back nothing.

6. never picked up phone but texted me many times saying she wanted to hang out but whenever i tried to
make plans she stopped responding..

7. lives in LA But says she wants to hook up wid me this friday when she come back to atlanta... we shall see..

8. great phone conversation said she wants to hook up tomorrow...

9. i don't remember this one so must have been more bs....

so thats 1 good option from 9 numbers... welcome to the average man's life....
 

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well at least 1 worked.
 

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Dude I literally had a system that would get me at least 30 contacts a night.. if I was energetic I could get more..

The key in all this though.. is that you haven't built up enough rapport or value with the girl.. so they got Buyers Remorse afterwards.

Now at least one of those sounds like she must have saw you afterwards chasing another girl.. the hang-up..

Now if you are going to get a lot of numbers you have to have a reason to make it all legit.. so that these girls don't just all think you are a player, although some will actually like that.

I would usually go for digits and their email.. and then I would email them and slowly build that rapport and value.. make sure to make good notes of the girl.. after you walk away so that you remember clearly later.. write down anything unique.. or information that will be important going forward.

I had a very high conversion rate in my day but most of that was do to picking and selection at the end.. when I had the 30 digits.

Anyways it sounds like you are coming across pushy to meet.. most guys do equate a number with a date.. but the same isn't for the females..

You still have to build value in their eyes.. and I would normally not ask them out on a date on the first call.. it just comes off too eager..

What I would usually say.. is I like coffee is their a Timmies by where you live (famous Canadian coffee house), they always say yes.. whats the location? they would tell me.. I would say I am running real busy this week have lots of calls to make around town.. but if I am in your area.. and I have some spare time.. then I will give you a call.. when are you usually off work.. so I don't call you while you are in a meeting.

That would always lead to a coffee within the next week.. and it doesn't sound rushed.. there is no big first date deal.. it doean't sound pushy.. it exerts major confidence.. besides the fact that you never asked her to go.. you implied it.

See if that helps dude..
 

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Always try to close that night if possible. I have gotten many a drunk phone number from a girl at a club or party or what have you, and even if you interacted with them a lot, you can't always make a lasting impression. If the chemistry is there and things are escalating smoothly, just go for it. One night the music is bumping, the alcohol is flowing, and the dim lighting is making everyone look better, and you get a number. Later on, even if you did your best, you're still out of the moment, and she may not be as receptive to hanging out with some guy she met at the club the other night.

Obviously things can still come of these situations, but number closing is just the beginning boys.
 

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suavesuave said:
well at least 1 worked.
1 out of 9 is terrible.. but yes its better than none at all...

females love the act of giving out their phone number but no longer does a number mean she is interested at all.. and it is funny how some women will never even pick up the phone in the first place... Many will answer 1 time if they dont recognize ur number then black you and stop answering as soon as they do..
 

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Orlandomac said:
Dude I literally had a system that would get me at least 30 contacts a night.. if I was energetic I could get more..

The key in all this though.. is that you haven't built up enough rapport or value with the girl.. so they got Buyers Remorse afterwards.

Now at least one of those sounds like she must have saw you afterwards chasing another girl.. the hang-up..

Now if you are going to get a lot of numbers you have to have a reason to make it all legit.. so that these girls don't just all think you are a player, although some will actually like that.

I would usually go for digits and their email.. and then I would email them and slowly build that rapport and value.. make sure to make good notes of the girl.. after you walk away so that you remember clearly later.. write down anything unique.. or information that will be important going forward.

I had a very high conversion rate in my day but most of that was do to picking and selection at the end.. when I had the 30 digits.

Anyways it sounds like you are coming across pushy to meet.. most guys do equate a number with a date.. but the same isn't for the females..

You still have to build value in their eyes.. and I would normally not ask them out on a date on the first call.. it just comes off too eager..

What I would usually say.. is I like coffee is their a Timmies by where you live (famous Canadian coffee house), they always say yes.. whats the location? they would tell me.. I would say I am running real busy this week have lots of calls to make around town.. but if I am in your area.. and I have some spare time.. then I will give you a call.. when are you usually off work.. so I don't call you while you are in a meeting.

That would always lead to a coffee within the next week.. and it doesn't sound rushed.. there is no big first date deal.. it doean't sound pushy.. it exerts major confidence.. besides the fact that you never asked her to go.. you implied it.

See if that helps dude..
Thanks for the tips but let me clarify that these are hip hop hos..lol they type who F different guys all the time.. you dont even have to date these females they just have to chose you... So all i am going for is a lay.. You cant move slow with these type of females. They F all the time and 99% of you chances are based on the camera phone pic you send them which they show their friends if they like that pic they will F you..
 

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TheBucketOfTruth said:
Always try to close that night if possible. I have gotten many a drunk phone number from a girl at a club or party or what have you, and even if you interacted with them a lot, you can't always make a lasting impression. If the chemistry is there and things are escalating smoothly, just go for it. One night the music is bumping, the alcohol is flowing, and the dim lighting is making everyone look better, and you get a number. Later on, even if you did your best, you're still out of the moment, and she may not be as receptive to hanging out with some guy she met at the club the other night.

Obviously things can still come of these situations, but number closing is just the beginning boys.
Yeh you are right... getting these hos to F after the club is damn near impossible cause most of them have 3 or 4 dudes that already have appointments with them to F after they leave the club..

i dont understand the ones who never answer their phones at all...
 

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DonGorgon said:
Yeh you are right... getting these hos to F after the club is damn near impossible cause most of them have 3 or 4 dudes that already have appointments with them to F after they leave the club..

i dont understand the ones who never answer their phones at all...
How do you know that they have F appointments?
 

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Orlandomac said:
Dude I literally had a system that would get me at least 30 contacts a night.. if I was energetic I could get more..

The key in all this though.. is that you haven't built up enough rapport or value with the girl.. so they got Buyers Remorse afterwards.

Now at least one of those sounds like she must have saw you afterwards chasing another girl.. the hang-up..

Now if you are going to get a lot of numbers you have to have a reason to make it all legit.. so that these girls don't just all think you are a player, although some will actually like that.

I would usually go for digits and their email.. and then I would email them and slowly build that rapport and value.. make sure to make good notes of the girl.. after you walk away so that you remember clearly later.. write down anything unique.. or information that will be important going forward.

I had a very high conversion rate in my day but most of that was do to picking and selection at the end.. when I had the 30 digits.

Anyways it sounds like you are coming across pushy to meet.. most guys do equate a number with a date.. but the same isn't for the females..

You still have to build value in their eyes.. and I would normally not ask them out on a date on the first call.. it just comes off too eager..

What I would usually say.. is I like coffee is their a Timmies by where you live (famous Canadian coffee house), they always say yes.. whats the location? they would tell me.. I would say I am running real busy this week have lots of calls to make around town.. but if I am in your area.. and I have some spare time.. then I will give you a call.. when are you usually off work.. so I don't call you while you are in a meeting.

That would always lead to a coffee within the next week.. and it doesn't sound rushed.. there is no big first date deal.. it doean't sound pushy.. it exerts major confidence.. besides the fact that you never asked her to go.. you implied it.

See if that helps dude..
loL @ least 30 contacts a night? how many of those were chicks? how much money was involved? free liquor? etc etc

Not flaming just asking....

I do agree Don you gotta build rapport my dude, without it you just another dude that shorty met at the club that night. 1 out of 9 is horrible, but don't fret we all been there.
 

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This is why I've always said why go to the trouble of number closing a bunch of chicks when you could kiss/fclose one?

The downside of having the 'numberclose' in mind is that you settle too easily for just a number. Why not make a move and get the kiss and a more reliable number? Even better, why not make the move and tell her she's coming back with you? Either way, a more reliable number once again.

You can turn a girl on a lot with conversation when you go out, but she most likely won't remember you as 'that guy' unless you get somewhat intimate with her. This is why so many of your numbers failed. It's not really you; it's just the way you're going about contacting girls.

Alcohol is one of the best catalysts for attraction the night of, but the worst the day after. You must give her a reason to remember.
 
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That seems to be just the way things go.


You get 1 phone number in 5 or 10 approaches, and only 1 in 10 of those is interested after that.


That's why you need to do a lot of approaches, I guess.
 

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Hmmm thats good u got something to improve on. Either way toshay on getting the 9 numbers, But seems like u must of done something wrong or not enough of something in the interactions. The 3 calls u gave that u got no anwer 2- cudn't really do much about that even if a good set, keep on those plates and maybe send a text message (with style and bit of mystery) or call again. Some of the others had potential, but maybe texter girl u could of handled her better, but i remember a girl like her and to b honest they r a waste of time anyway.

But seems like u got bit of disinterest with some of the other plates, so maybe work on a better connection. Other than that dude just keep making changes in ur style and c what happens. Because its hard to identify problem with this information.
 

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U reminded me of something dude thanks, I use to b quite expert in the whole no answer business, i dug up my old text messages on old plates and posted it on my journal so i don't forget it again, I will paste it here, u can give this ago it worked for me, hope it works for u 2.

If no answer from call on new plate

I use to get quite lot of text game and not many answers, but well this worked for me anyway. I would basically call the girl, then maybe call her again another time or just a text message usually.

My texts didn't get many replys, but this one got it most of the time (actually think all) and it worked for ME, it might work for u guys, idk u have to try it out.

I thought if i tell her straight up who i am and how i met her it comes boring, predictable and if u just keep calling her shows u got lot of times on ur hand and if u try to set up date with that one text to much pressure, ur going have to get her on that phone idealy.

usually goes something like this:

"aw pity ur not there, i rather not do this by text, but jus get me back 2 me when u can, and 4 now u can just call me mysterious guy"


So it shows ur genuine and honest, ur not playing the whole text game, u actually have made it has if text is bad and motivated her to call, so we don't get a horrible texter girl who just texts (yes we all have had one), Its unique, Its laid back she isn't pressurised to call u its when ever she wants to and u have added bit of mystery (not shown all ur cards straight away) and spice in the text has well. Plus her calling u back gives u a more dominant position to play with 2, but some will text back but they also will b more intigued by u.

And to b honest if i got that text i would really want to find out who this guy is and i would get the assumption he is quite interesting 2.
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