4 Approaches at the mall today.

ElStud

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Well, went to the mall today and I made four approaches. Really wasn't that successful of a night.

Approach #1
So I'm walking and this HB6 blonde chicks comes my way and I talk to her. Here's the approach, I can't remember exactly how everything went, but this is basically it:
Me: Hey, I have to ask you a question. But make it quick, I kind of have to meet my girlfriend soon.
Her: What is it?
Me: What do you think is better between Abercrombie & Fitch?
Her: Compared to what?
Me: Oh, I don't know, Hollister.
Her: Oh, definitely Abercrombie.
Me: Why do you feel Abercrombie is better?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Do you go to any amusements parks?
Her: Yeah. Why?
Me: Ah, well I can see you as the type of girl who goes on one of those REALLY high rides and then throws up.
Her: Yeah, I am like that.
Me: You throw up?
Her: No, I like really high rides.
Me: Yeah... I was about to say, the throwing up thing isn't really cool.
Her: Yeah.
Needless to say, that could've gone better. Yeah... pretty much sucked.

Approach # 2
I walk into Ambercrombie & Fitch and see this HB6 Blonde stacking clothes or something. I look around for a while and then approach her.
Me: Hey, I'm doing a music survey and I was wondering, what type of music do you listen to?
Her: Oh, I listen to anything.
Me: Yeah, you look like the type girl who would be into country music. Yeah, I could see it now, you get from school, go upstairs and you start dancing to that stuff.
Her: Oh no, I'm definitely not like that.
Me: So you're definitely not that type of girl. I see.
Me: Have you ever been to any amusement parks?
Her: No.
Me: No? Haha, I could see it now, you and me would go on one of those small rides at Cedar Point and when the ride falls, you would throw up on me.
[She makes this funny face]
Her: No, I'm definitely not that type of girl.
Me: So do you cook?
[I kino her, putting my arm first on her shoulder, then putting it around her]
Her: No.
Me: So you wouldn't be able to cook for me?
Her: No.
Me: So what's your name again?
Her: Asila.
Me: Alright Asila, well, my girlfriend is waiting so I have to go now.
Me: Do you have a number?
Her: I actually lost my phone.
Me: I see.
Not really a successful approach there. Basically just plowed the whole time.

Approach # 3
I see this HB7 girl working at a store and I approached her, tapping her on the back to get her attention.
Me: Hey, I was doing a music survey and I was wondering, what kind of music do you like?
Her: What?
[Louder]
Me: Oh, I was just asking what kind of music you liked.
Her: Oh, I don't know I listen to anything...
And after that she just kind of walked away and continued her job. Yeah, this one sucked ass.

Approach # 4
I'm walking and I see this HB6 and start talking to her.
Me: Hey, I was doing a music survey and I was wondering, what kind of music do you like?
Her: Oh, Greek.
Me: Ah, so you have Greek origins?
Her: Yep.
[Her KID comes]
Me: So do you cook?
Her: Yeah.
Me: Yeah, you gotta know how to cook if you're going to be married.
Me: So I'll see you later.
Her: Bye.
Pretty bad approach, once I figured out she had a kid, I kind of just ended the set.

Also, I saw this chick named Erica from my school with 2 other people from my school and we talked, but I don't count that as an approach. She basically talked about piercings and she said something like "I hope you have a good summer" as I was walking away. Twas' a pretty sucky night. Funny thing is, I was there for like 5 hours and most of my approaches were in the last 2 hours.
 
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Hey El Stud, whats going on? I have read a bunch of your approaches man and I give you credit for having the kahones to approach. But here is the thing from reading these approaces--your cold reads are not good and it seems like you ask to many questions. Your cold read lines aren't helping you either. "You seem like the kind of girl that would throw up." I mean its good your bringing her status down, but its not helping you. I think you should just practice chatting with girls, because your cold reads are not very good at all. Good luck man!
 

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Chicks Just Dig Me said:
Hey El Stud, whats going on? I have read a bunch of your approaches man and I give you credit for having the kahones to approach. But here is the thing from reading these approaces--your cold reads are not good and it seems like you ask to many questions. Your cold read lines aren't helping you either. "You seem like the kind of girl that would throw up." I mean its good your bringing her status down, but its not helping you. I think you should just practice chatting with girls, because your cold reads are not very good at all. Good luck man!
Thing is, they're just words, nothing more. You could say pretty much anything if you convey it right. Overall, I'm not really that concerned with the "words" I'm just trying to work on plowing, conveying personality and overall getting rid of approach anxiety. I agree, I did ask a lot of questions though.
 
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I dont like doing the whole cold approach thing. Here is my advice--Heres maybe a sample for you:

You: Hey there, whats going on?
Her: Nothing, just looking for some clothes.
You: Thats nice. My name is Rob or w/e. Yours?
Her: Keri.
You: Hey Keri. I just wanted to tell you you have a great smile. Would you like to go out sometime?
Her: Yeah, sure.
You: And your number is?
Her. bla bla bla.

I think you should give it a try. I mean, it doesn't seem your cold approaches are working one bit, so I think you should def. try a different routine. Keep it up and just try to change some things around...If something dont work, don't force it to.
 

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ElStud, you probably think you know what I'm going to say. Instead I'm going a complete 180, yeah, it may not have been such a successful day, but you kept working at it. One thing though, and I know you just said that it doesnt matter what you said, but could you change up your convo a bit, if not for the girls then for us. The same approaches kinda of get old. But hey, good job out there today kid.
 

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flnazrael said:
lol. That's hilarious.
Yeah... women give some lame ass excuses sometimes.
 

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Have you ever noticed that women who use the word "actually" are actually making excuses?
 

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Approach 1
- To many questions and as a result the conversation comes off forced
- I'm assuming your coming off as trying for rapport

Also why are you ejecting so early? Next approach try going in without asking any questions, if you can't then only ask allow yourself to ask 1 question per set. Also practice breaking rapport or atleast having neutral rapport.

Approach 2
- Your seeking a reaction off of your cold reads. You're attract material won't hit if your sitting there seeking a reaction.
- You're being reactive: Her responses are affecting you and your basically going into her reality
- You're trying to do qualification and you don't even have any attraction yet
- You're not plowing properly. You're talking in a way of hoping of getting a reaction and your being affected by her responses. Its like you try to do something you don't get the reaction your looking for so you react. An then you try to push the button again in hopes of getting that reaction but you don't get it so you react again.
- Too many questions

Actual plowing is where your just conveying your personality without caring what she says, thinks, or responds. You're just staying in your own reality and frame. It's like your doing all that because you like to have fun and your doing it for your own amusement. When your doing attract material (in this case a cold reading) your not hoping for a reaction your just basically saying it and moving on. You're doing and saying whatever you want, not because its a hot girl but because thats just who you are.

Me: Alright Asila, well, my girlfriend is waiting so I have to go now.
Me: Do you have a number?
This is funny because you just said your gf is waiting for you and right after you asked for her # :crackup and she never noticed it, or atleast she never said anything. As for her excuse that was just her autopilot response. :

Approach 3
- Voice sucked: If your voice isn't expressive of fun, positivity, and certainty then most likely your voice is crappy

Approach 4
- Don't eject too early or because something has happened and as a result you reacted.

Just because she has a kid doesn't mean you can't practice socializing and gaining more skills in your social circle. Each person you talk to regardless if its man or woman, is just an oppurtunity to improve your social skills.

Good to see your still out approaching though
 
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At least you tried but I don't think you know wtf your doing. First off don't bother chicks working or buying sh*t cuz they're BUSY, b*tchshield to the max. You have to be more original than that to hit on a chick that works at at a store... cmon she's been hit on probably 10 times a day. A more casual way would be to ask her opinion on clothes or whatever they're selling and say it's for your girlfriend. Secondly make sure you have eye contact first, no point going up to random strangers and opening... it's freaky to them. If you eye contact and smile and they return it, well getting the number is easy. You should definetly read more David Delangelo, he's 100 times better than the DJ bible.
 
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