3D TV's

[r0cky]

So I see that 3D tv's have hit the market recently. I dont know about you guys but I will definetly not buy one, ever. They are just another way to keep us people in the developed world as zombies. I mean I thought the latest video games were too much ( my little bro barely sees the light of day anymore) and now they've come up with more ways to physically depress us?
Is there anybody else thats becoming more disgusted with technology? is technology really benefiting us anymore or is it having the opposite effect in the long term?

 

[Maxtro]

Wow, such a pessimistic view.

I'm going to ignore most of your post and just talk about 3D tv's.

I really don't think a 3D tv is a good investment, unless the prices go way down. No tv shows are going to be broadcast in 3D. Only a small amount of movies will use 3D and for the majority of the movies that are 3D, don't need to be. I've only seen been impressed with 3D twice. That was Avatar and Captain Eo. For everything else it was a distraction.

Playing video games in 3D may be interesting though. It really needs to be a killer experience or it just isn't worth it.

 

[Inquisitus]

So I see that 3D tv's have hit the market recently. I dont know about you guys but I will definetly not buy one, ever. They are just another way to keep us people in the developed world as zombies. I mean I thought the latest video games were too much ( my little bro barely sees the light of day anymore) and now they've come up with more ways to physically depress us?
Is there anybody else thats becoming more disgusted with technology? is technology really benefiting us anymore or is it having the opposite effect in the long term?

You focus on TV's as an end all of technology yet ignore others like the computer you're typing on.

Why not focus on the technology that you find useful and forget the rest?

YOU control whether you're a zombie or not.

 

[jonwon]

So I see that 3D tv's have hit the market recently. I dont know about you guys but I will definetly not buy one, ever. They are just another way to keep us people in the developed world as zombies. I mean I thought the latest video games were too much ( my little bro barely sees the light of day anymore) and now they've come up with more ways to physically depress us?
Is there anybody else thats becoming more disgusted with technology? is technology really benefiting us anymore or is it having the opposite effect in the long term?

What do you mean by zombies?

This term is usually used when a person feels people are sheep being controlled by media or some other force.

TV depresses you? How does it depress you? Are you sure your not buying into some of this conspiracy stuff and thinking that 100% of all programmes on TV are nothing but ways for the elite to enter your brain and tell you what to think?

TV can be educational (Wildlife, history, culture) - TV can entertain.

I reckon you should be thankful, your not living in a thatched roof hut, having come from working down a pit for 13 hours, to only then have to scrub your cloths dry for another 2 hours with stones and water.

The reason why people watch TV or any other form of entertainment is simply because we have more time to do so.

So what if your cousin plays games all day, as long has its not affecting him in the long term, i.e sacrficing school, why is it a problem?

What is that you do throughout your day that is better than what he is doing?

Nothing wrong with playing games - as long as it doesn't become an obsession and makes the person neglect the real world, i.e doesn't work, doesn't go to school and becomes unhealthy.

 

[n00bPimp]

I'm also talking about those people whose could be happier and even healthier if it wasnt for tvs and computers. Technology depresses most of the population by setting standards on what you 'should' look like, how you 'should' live, and when you compare yourself and your life to these standards and you realize that you're not what you 'should' be, you get pissed off. It also depresses your body because technology promotes inactivity.

Frankly, I'd rather live in a hut, and off the grid. those people might do a lot of dirty physical labor and earn very little, but physical work is what our bodies where made for, our bodies werent made to sit on cubicles on all day for decades and decades. Plus since all the fancy things we own end up owning us, I'd gladly live a simple life where i 'm to focus on what really brings me happiness. THAT my friend is REAL freedom.

I have seriously been contemplating this, i just need to find out how its going to happen. And I want to make one thing clear, I'm not saying these things out of discontent or hatred for our current way of living, I'm saying them because I love the other option and I very much would enjoy it.

 

[Kailex]

I try to ignore threads like these, but I'm sorry, I just cannot.

First of all, technology doesn't DO anything. It's the people USING it that determine how they use technology. If a person uses their TV to watch garbage television, that is all on THEM, not the television set. How in the world can we possibly place blame on an inanimate object created by MAN?

Why don't we just blame cars next on our lack of using bicycles or walking to places?

Then we can blame many more things for the fact that they give us ADVANTAGES in life.

Whenever I see people say that ANY piece of technology is to blame for inactivity, I just have to sigh. Yes, it CAN lend itself to this, but the TV isn't holding a gun to your temple saying: SIT THERE AND BE A MINDLESS ZOMBIE.

WE choose how to use the technology.

So if a person sits there and watches The O.C., American Idol, and other countless crap, it's THEM, NOT the TV.

I watch Discovery Channel, the Travel Channel and other programs that can help me learn aroud the world out there.

The TV truly cannot be evil, nor can the internet. As humans, we possess the free will and the choice of how we can use these things.

I'm also talking about those people whose could be happier and even healthier if it wasnt for tvs and computers. Technology depresses most of the population by setting standards on what you 'should' look like, how you 'should' live, and when you compare yourself and your life to these standards and you realize that you're not what you 'should' be, you get pissed off. It also depresses your body because technology promotes inactivity.

Technology doesn't depress people, it's the crappy ways it's USED and how people choose to interpret them that depresses the blue hell out of people. It doesn't set standards, PEOPLE set those standards... technology is just the medium. If TV's didn't exist, these standards would still be set through magazines, newspapers, WHATEVER. There will ALWAYS be standards set whether there is technology or not.

Technology does not promote inactivity.

If I sit at my TV and watch crap for 2 hours, I AM promoting my own inactivity.

But if I use those same 2 hours to do some Tae-Bo because it's raining outside and then to watch a program on Discovery about something really interesting, how is that promoting anything negative?

Frankly, I'd rather live in a hut, and off the grid. those people might do a lot of dirty physical labor and earn very little, but physical work is what our bodies where made for, our bodies werent made to sit on cubicles on all day for decades and decades. Plus since all the fancy things we own end up owning us, I'd gladly live a simple life where i 'm to focus on what really brings me happiness. THAT my friend is REAL freedom.

I have seriously been contemplating this, i just need to find out how its going to happen. And I want to make one thing clear, I'm not saying these things out of discontent or hatred for our current way of living, I'm saying them because I love the other option and I very much would enjoy it.

This is what REALLY kills me.
Don't talk about it in a self-righteous way, DO IT.

I just hate it when people say that they'd rather live in a world without technology... while posting about it on an online forum, in the Anything Else section.

Maybe this is not the case with you, but I've seen many people say this before, and it's usually the ones who wouldn't survive a week in the woods on a camping trip... with an RV.

I mean, what could possibly be the logistics of figuring out how to make it happen? Go talk to an Amish family and ask if you can move in for a month.

 

[r0cky]

Whenever I see people say that ANY piece of technology is to blame for inactivity, I just have to sigh. Yes, it CAN lend itself to this, but the TV isn't holding a gun to your temple saying: SIT THERE AND BE A MINDLESS ZOMBIE.

Ah yes, the old "nobody's putting a gun to your head" excuse.
Maybe this is how the government should've responded to those wall st bankers asking for bail outs. Nobody put a gun to their heads and told them to make such risky loans right?
See the thing about decisions which hurt us in the long term is that they bring pleasure in the short term. Human emotion can not resist a quick pleasure now even though this always leads to long term pain.

 

[EA Gold]

I wonder when were going to learn the lesson from a movie made 34 years ago. I had to watch this 4-5 times to get the real meaning out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDWtZ3xRMb0

 

[Kailex]

Ah yes, the old "nobody's putting a gun to your head" excuse.
Maybe this is how the government should've responded to those wall st bankers asking for bail outs. Nobody put a gun to their heads and told them to make such risky loans right?

Fail analysis.

You are going to compare my argument of Inanimate Object vs Human Beings to....... People vs People?

Really?

This argument is about TV's, NOT about government bail-outs. Don't compare apples to oranges in YOUR own thread.

And second, the banks knew they were taking risks with all of those loans. That involves a process.

The only process involved with not watching TV is TURNING OFF THE TV.
YOU choose to turn the TV off, the internet off, anything technologically speaking OFF.

Come on man.
If you're going to bridge two different arguments together, at least try to make it in a way that actually makes sense.

 

[Trader]

I try to ignore threads like these, but I'm sorry, I just cannot.

First of all, technology doesn't DO anything. It's the people USING it that determine how they use technology. If a person uses their TV to watch garbage television, that is all on THEM, not the television set. How in the world can we possibly place blame on an inanimate object created by MAN?

Why don't we just blame cars next on our lack of using bicycles or walking to places?

Then we can blame many more things for the fact that they give us ADVANTAGES in life.

Whenever I see people say that ANY piece of technology is to blame for inactivity, I just have to sigh. Yes, it CAN lend itself to this, but the TV isn't holding a gun to your temple saying: SIT THERE AND BE A MINDLESS ZOMBIE.

WE choose how to use the technology.

So if a person sits there and watches The O.C., American Idol, and other countless crap, it's THEM, NOT the TV.

I watch Discovery Channel, the Travel Channel and other programs that can help me learn aroud the world out there.

The TV truly cannot be evil, nor can the internet. As humans, we possess the free will and the choice of how we can use these things.



Technology doesn't depress people, it's the crappy ways it's USED and how people choose to interpret them that depresses the blue hell out of people. It doesn't set standards, PEOPLE set those standards... technology is just the medium. If TV's didn't exist, these standards would still be set through magazines, newspapers, WHATEVER. There will ALWAYS be standards set whether there is technology or not.

Technology does not promote inactivity.

If I sit at my TV and watch crap for 2 hours, I AM promoting my own inactivity.

But if I use those same 2 hours to do some Tae-Bo because it's raining outside and then to watch a program on Discovery about something really interesting, how is that promoting anything negative?

Yes you have free-will, and technology does not OWN anyone. But you give mankind way too much credit - people lack will-power. That is why with a neutral technology such as the internet, searches for porn will always be greater than searches for legitimate information.

 

[r0cky]

I wonder when were going to learn the lesson from a movie made 34 years ago. I had to watch this 4-5 times to get the real meaning out of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDWtZ3xRMb0

Now that guy, he understands me.

 

[r0cky]

Fail analysis.

You are going to compare my argument of Inanimate Object vs Human Beings to....... People vs People?

Really?

This argument is about TV's, NOT about government bail-outs. Don't compare apples to oranges in YOUR own thread.

And second, the banks knew they were taking risks with all of those loans. That involves a process.

The only process involved with not watching TV is TURNING OFF THE TV.
YOU choose to turn the TV off, the internet off, anything technologically speaking OFF.

Come on man.
If you're going to bridge two different arguments together, at least try to make it in a way that actually makes sense.

I'm not comparing them. Read carefully. I'm trying to make the point that many of us will do things that will harm us in the long term because they give us an immediate short-lived excitement. This is why people are obese (and notice that only in america do people have "eating disorders"), this is why people go into debt they cant repay, this is why the developed world is so obsesed with what they have and how they look. Anyways i could go on a tangent here but i gotta go out.

 

[Quiksilver]

You can't fault the technology.

It's a dicey subject that we could joust over all day, but IMO the responsibility for private sector goods always lies in the hands of the consumer.

Ultimately, you have a choice to buy one or not. You have a choice to smash it with a sledgehammer if you find yourself getting sucked into it too much.

The controversial bit comes with the addictive nature of it, similar to the debate over cigarettes. Such as:

1. Cigarette manufacturers deliberately add addictive chemicals to it--which do nothing for the taste or texture--for the explicit purpose of getting consumers addicted.

2. The original Coca-Cola recipe contained cocaine, again to get people addicted.

Again, these are private sector goods and as such you still have the ultimate choice.

When the government forces a 3D tv upon you or makes it illegal NOT to own one ... That is when it'll be time to worry When you don't have that choice, that's when it gets serious.

 

[CRUSHER]

You can't fault the technology.

It's a dicey subject that we could joust over all day, but IMO the responsibility for private sector goods always lies in the hands of the consumer.

Ultimately, you have a choice to buy one or not. You have a choice to smash it with a sledgehammer if you find yourself getting sucked into it too much.

The controversial bit comes with the addictive nature of it, similar to the debate over cigarettes. Such as:

1. Cigarette manufacturers deliberately add addictive chemicals to it--which do nothing for the taste or texture--for the explicit purpose of getting consumers addicted.

2. The original Coca-Cola recipe contained cocaine, again to get people addicted.

Again, these are private sector goods and as such you still have the ultimate choice.

When the government forces a 3D tv upon you or makes it illegal NOT to own one ... That is when it'll be time to worry When you don't have that choice, that's when it gets serious.

True Quicksilver though how about things like facebook? Do you know they monitor things like where your mouse is what you search for and etc.. in order to change the new layout everytime? They keep doing it to get you addicted, the reason why so many kids spend hours on facebook alone..

Or about XBOX 360 gamer points which add no value to a game except to make you keep playing it till like a perfectionist you have to get as many points in the game as possible for silly things. And funny how most people we know all try to accumulate worthless points.

 

[OzyBoy]

I recently watched a 3D movie on my non 3D plasma and i thought it was pretty good so whats the difference with 3D televisions?