18 year old boy destroys his life by dating 15 year old girl (murder plot)

[Wyldfire]

This story touches close to home for me. I used to work with the 15 year old girl's father about 6 years ago. Obviously the girl has some very serious problems...and the boy...well, what he was willing to go along with to keep his girlfriend is just pathetic. Now they are both likely going to spend the rest of their lives in prison. I do have to say, though...big kudos to the town police and school (we used to live there and my kids went to that school before we moved to a different area) for their handling of the situation.

http://www.vnews.com/03252005/2324316.htm

 

[Wyldfire]

Here are a couple more articles about the murder plot and events leading up to the arrests of these two kids.

http://www.vnews.com/03242005/2322578.htm

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/p...050325/NEWS/503250416&SearchID=73204755865486

 

[Skel]

wow i live in south windsor

 

[Skel]

oh wrong state )

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Skel
oh wrong state )

I think every state has a "Windsor". This took place in Vermont. This girl's father had complications with diabetes and lost his eyesight, so he's legally blind. There is no way he could defend himself against even his own 15 year old daughter.

It sounds like the boy didn't really want to kill her parents...but he was going to go along with this plot the girl came up with. His life is ruined now...and the sad thing is that he is probably a decent kid who never got into any trouble before. Boys can be lured into doing some STUPID sh*t over girls.

 

[Skel]

The world is sick Wyldifre. My grandma use to always say "our time is almost at an end". I never really knew what she meant by that but its quite obvious now. The world was changing to a crazy crazy place.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Skel
The world is sick Wyldifre. My grandma use to always say "our time is almost at an end". I never really knew what she meant by that but its quite obvious now. The world was changing to a crazy crazy place.

Yeah, it is sick.

I'm surprised that more people haven't had anything to say about this. These kids were seeing each other a couple of months. Over that time the boy dropped out of the private Christian school he was going to, got kicked out of his home for dating an underage girl (which alone could have put him in jail on felony statutory rape charges since they were caught in bed together). And in a few weeks he's helping plot the murder of this girl's parents. What a waste. The girl obviously has some serious psychological issues and this boy was probably easily led and sucked into it due to teen hormones and thinking he's "in love". It's so sad...

 

[PRMoon]

Yet another example of what happens when emotions take the forefront to rationality. I remember being that young (i'm still young now) but reason should always be the primary decision making factor in your life. Going off of insinct and emotions (especially when not well thought out) can often lead to disastar. Killing your parents may have been plauseable in the 14th and 15th century, but in todays world executing parents who love you and are looking out for your best interest can't be traded for anykind of love. Where has shedding the blood of the innocent ever produced anything loving or good?

 

[mahon83050]

This is why I would never want to work in the Criminal Justice System...way too depressing. Here are two young lives destroyed forever, because they made a poor choice. They should just kill themselves now.

 

[Brother_Rapp]

Let us be adults shall we?

 

[LuvMyArmyMan]

two words: shut up. ^^^^^^^

 

[PRMoon]

Seriously what's your deal man. I mean i know you're "street" and all but this thread has a legitamate point to it and you're trying to take out your fustration on a woman who was beaten and abused in the past and that influence had her pose her opposing thoughts on your very opposite views. Find someone else to pick on. There are plenty of targets for you here, me inclucded and for the most part i'll actually play along with your ill concevied thoughts.

 

[penkitten]

omigod i read that

and

the first thing i have to ask is

why were her parents letting her bf stay there in the first damn place?

i cant get a feel for it is was the girl who wanted to kill them or the boy or both . who pressuered who into the whole damn thing but come on, they mapped it out on paper and made a schedule... how sick

 

[Wyldfire]

Oh man...I missed Brother Rapps latest attack and temper tantrum!

Can someone please tell me what he said? PM me if you don't want to post it.

For the record...talking about domestic violence and/or abuse doesn't bother me in the least. That is NOT why I took issue with his post. I took issue with the crap he writes because he starts off sounding somewhat reasonable and intelligent when he posts and then steers his advice and comments in the wrong direction. He has the potential to suck some very easily influenced teenage boys in with his tactics. If they listen to his advice or look up to him it's going to cause them a lot of pain, anguish and problems. His style is very underhanded and sneaky and I'm calling it as I see it. He is a troll who is not on here posting with good intentions. He's someone who was previously banned for bad behavior...a person who was able to pull a lot of guys in with his fairly good writing ability. But since he was banned he's now on here with less than admirable goals. His BS is subtle enough so that many aren't noticing exactly what he's trying to do. Sorry...but when some dingbat is posting in a way that excuses not allowing a woman to have any money, condones a guy "kicking the a$$" of ANYONE (male or female) and implying that maybe incest, pedophilia, beastiality and the like isn't really bad afterall is quite obviously either just plain f*cked up or is a troll. Whichever the case, his contributions to this forum are worthless and should NOT be taken seriously.

Hope that clears things up.

Oh...and I do want to know what he said. Unfortunately it was deleted before I got to see it. I'm not some meek emotional little girl and not only do I not want to be "protected"...it actually kinda annoys me that his post was changed without me seeing it.

Okay...carry on.

 

[penkitten]

wyld , why did the girls parents let her bf stay there? did the news say yet?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by penkitten
wyld , why did the girls parents let her bf stay there? did the news say yet?

His father kicked him out for being romantically involved with a 15 year old girl. From what I've heard the boy was a good kid and her parents felt bad and didn't want him on the street with no place to stay. Sounds like the girl had some very serious emotional/psychological problems and it likely led to them being worn down and giving in to her rather than deal with how she would be if they didn't let him stay there. The papers say that the girl was sleeping in her brother's room and the boyfriend was in her room...so her parents weren't condoning them sleeping together under their roof. But they did and got caught in the act...which is why the parents of the girl told them he had to leave. The girl wanted to kill her parents because they wouldn't allow her to have sex with him under their roof.

 

[penkitten]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
His father kicked him out for being romantically involved with a 15 year old girl. From what I've heard the boy was a good kid and her parents felt bad and didn't want him on the street with no place to stay. Sounds like the girl had some very serious emotional/psychological problems and it likely led to them being worn down and giving in to her rather than deal with how she would be if they didn't let him stay there. The papers say that the girl was sleeping in her brother's room and the boyfriend was in her room...so her parents weren't condoning them sleeping together under their roof. But they did and got caught in the act...which is why the parents of the girl told them he had to leave. The girl wanted to kill her parents because they wouldn't allow her to have sex with him under their roof.

sounds like she didnt get her ass whipped enough as a kid to learn she cant always get her way and treat her parents like crap.

ya know , i remember being 15 and not being allowed to do certain things and considered running away for half a second and then i knew i would just get my ass beat if i tired it .
but to think this little girl actually planned to kill her own parents .

just sick

 

[Wyldfire]

Yeah...it is sick. Ironically, around the same time that happened there was a particularly horrendous Domestic Violence episode in my neighborhood. The husband tried to kill his wife in front of their children. He grabbed his crying 10 month old baby on a short break from beating his wife and said "This is the night your mother is going to die" and then punched the baby in the head. The wife took the phone while he was doing this and dialed 911 while coughing to hide what she was doing and then set the cordless handset on the bookcase headboard of their bed, connected to 911. They have what he did to that baby on tape as well as his attempt to kill his wife. She somehow managed to grab the baby and get outside and screamed for help. Some neighbors grabbed the baby and around that time the police showed up. The guy is facing at least 27 years for what he did.

 

[familyguyfan]

Although I'm sure the girl was worse than the guy psychologically, it definitely wasn't just that they guy was "drawn in" and in love. He had some serious psychological issues too if he would do that. Normal people don't do that just because they're in love.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by familyguyfan
Although I'm sure the girl was worse than the guy psychologically, it definitely wasn't just that they guy was "drawn in" and in love. He had some serious psychological issues too if he would do that. Normal people don't do that just because they're in love.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he was a bit scared of the girl...if she's be willing to kill her own parents who's to say he wouldn't be next if he crossed her.