1 girl - 5 guys - How to come out on top?

[Balla_Baby_69]

Seems like the first week of college whenever I would start talking to a girl things would be going well and then other guys start talking to the same girl and competition arises.

For example, last night at the party no-less than 4 dudes were pushing up on this one girl I was trying to get at. I mean, even afterward when we all went to hang out I couldn't get much time in (hardly anyone could) cus of the dudes around.

It seems like it is hard to get a girl when everyone is trying, so what can I do differently to help ensure that I come out on top? I mean, I can make her laugh, do the kino pretty well, etc, etc, etc but it seems like the other guys are doing that pretty well too.

Advice?

 

[DJDamage]

Don't compete among group of guys for the sole purpose of entertatining a chick.

I used to have a friend that was actually good in situations like this, he was probably the best natural DJ I ever known. He would go to a party and park himself in the centre of a large traffic area preferably near the bar or near a table with a sofa surrounded by people.

Most of the people who are desperate for attention will follow the girls around and boast and try to impress the chick with their tale of debauchery. But not him.

My friend would just park himself in one location and would start talking to the person sitting next to him. Because my friend was very charming, funny and friendly, people gradually gravitate towards him just to listen to what he was saying. He would start with one person and naturally work himself to others.

He always had very intresting stories and situations that made people laugh and they wanted to hang around him. This ultimatly gave him social proof. Without some form of social proof, you are packed in with the rest of the nobody's. Basically what I am saying in order fo be interesting and have good stories, YOU GOT TO HAVE A LIFE.

Chicks do tend to get bored easily listening to the same drunk telling his stupid heroic tails and eventually will leave him and wonder around. When they see a group of people, they will stop and try to see what is going on there. Naturally my friend would sit there and the HB's will position themsleves closer to him to hear what he had to say. Having social proof will also cause the chick to gravitate towards him because she will wonder who is this funny charming mysterious person who can entartain a large group of people??

If the chick would catch his eye while he would speak to the group, he still wouldn't pay much attention to her because she did not place herself in the conversation and thus she would interrupt his natural flow of his story. However while everyone including himself,would burst up in laughter he would look directly into the eyes of the girl. If the chick was laughing as well while they both lock eyes, he would know he pretty much got her, in the palms of his hands.

He would then "sort" off excuse himself and tell me": Hey I am going to the bathroom and then I am going to get us some drinks, I will be back" (that was sort of the signal that he was going out sarging, he would say that outloud to me so others especially the HB would hear). As soon as he left, a huge vacuum would be created because nobody can or was willing to step in and keep the crowd entartain. So naturally people would leave.

The chick he had a contact with would leave as well and would position herself in the bar to wait for him while he was in the bathroom or somewhere else and would get closer to his location when he arrived to the bar. Of coarse he would know that this was no accident. He would chat her up and get her number. It was so easy now for him because she already knows that he is a fun guy who is at ease in social situations.

Some people including myself preach isolation in a crowded place in order to get the girl's number but this guy didn't need to isolate her anymore because she already decided mentally in her head to block all the other members of the party and focus her attention and energy to him and only him.

A week later he would fvck her. It all seems effortless when you are this good, and that was the case for him. If you have a life and you go out and meet alot of people you will have intersting stories to tell others. You will also need to work on you sense of humor which will give you good social proof and will let you stand out from the crowd. Have fun and dress well, better then your friends. Project an aura of success happiness and fun and people would gravitate towards you as well.

Djdamage

 

[SamePendo]

Dont compete.
Mind your own buisiness.
IF these women are worthwhile, they will note your masculinity, and go to you.


It´s like an AFC competing with another AFC to see who is the most supplicating one..?!?

 

[Life-Trainee]

I also noticed that good storytelling skills are gold. I knew a guy who could make a mundane story about him shopping for new underwear exciting to everyone.

 

[PRMoon]

that was about the ratio of girls to guys my first year of school. What i did was get everyone's attention, both gender students, faculty and employees, I associated with everybody got my name out there and all, the rest was text book. With enough good connections and positive things being said about you through the grapevine the ladies come to you.

 

[OneArmDeeJay]

I'm glad someone brought this topic up. Finally someone asking not the same o' AFC questions.

Good Post DJDamage.

I'm a people person so it isn't that hard for me to talk to a group of people. But I have to say your friends technique is pretty good.

Like the not stoping when she makes I contact are says something cause SHES not in the flow of YOUR conversation. But when He laughs he makes eye contact. Also the leaving and coming back was a great idea too.

I'll have to use your friends technique into my own game and see where it takes me.

 

[Balla_Baby_69]

But how do I do it outside of parties. I mean, I already got the girl's number at a pary last night and we were talking and even other people noticed we had the start of a thing but not other gys are vying for her attention and it seems like I would just come off as a ****-blocker.

I mean, everytime some other dude is trying to court her I feel like that should be me and I am wasting time and losing interest....you know?

 

[Desdinova]

For example, last night at the party no-less than 4 dudes were pushing up on this one girl I was trying to get at.

You don't chase after them. You throw out some bait, and then reel them in.

When you attend a party, walk in there like you're gonna have the best time of your life. Have a blast for your own pleasure, but not the pleasure of others. Talk to EVERYBODY. Have very small fun chit chat with the women you're interested in. Then walk away to chat with someone else. Briefly dance with a girl that you chit chatted with before. Then walk away to chat with someone else.

This is fvcking gold because you're not putting a leash in their hand. You're not smothering them with attention. You're not the desperate AFC that they've gotten bored of conversing with for hours. When you're ready to leave, all you have to do is get numbers.

When you do this, you display value, social proof, not needy, and mystery. The guys hanging off the women will display none of these qualities. That's when you've got the advantage.

 

[handle]

I remember, at a gathering, all these guys were crowded around this one girl talking about all kinds of things but clearly focused on her. I chatted for a bit but didn't have a whole lot to say seeing as the conversation was a 7-on-1, so I just left the place. It wasn't followed up with me getting with her (or anyone else) because I was a major AFC back then, but the fact that I just didn't care and left was something new for me... and now it's something normal.

If you aren't having fun chatting with the 5 guys and the one girl, if you aren't getting anything out of it yourself whatsoever, why stick around? Even if you aren't trying to leave to "create mystery" or whatever, it's common sense to not stay around if it's boring.

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by Balla_Baby_69
But how do I do it outside of parties. I mean, I already got the girl's number at a pary last night and we were talking and even other people noticed we had the start of a thing but not other gys are vying for her attention and it seems like I would just come off as a ****-blocker.

I mean, everytime some other dude is trying to court her I feel like that should be me and I am wasting time and losing interest....you know?

When you first meet a girl you need talk with her for a bit and then when you create a good rapport that is when you get her number. If you get a girl's number and you have nothing else smart/funny to say, excuse yourself and split.

If you got a good rapport, made her laugh and existed on a high note (meaning you did not stay to wait until the conversation died down like what other people do), there is no reason why after getting her number you should stick around.

If you stick around her after getting her number you invite competition. You cannot hold an exciting conversation forever because eventually you will run out of your A- materials and you will bore her and she will be looking for other guys for entertainment. By staying there while other guys are running their game, it gives her a chance to compare her competition and decide on the spot who is the better catch.

If you didn't get a chance to get her number because you were c0ckblocked by some guy you need to exist and go talk to another girl. Don't compete for attention. Let her see you with other girls, or other people who are having a good time with you, while she is stuck with beerbreath over there.

If you leave on a high note and split she will wonder about you. You will look better then the other chumps talking all night long telling her their life stories. You have to remember that a very attractive girl will get at least get hit on by 10 different guys a night and about 4-5 of them will ask for her number. That is why when you call her to set up a date it will be set under you own terms and under your own conditions away from guys trying to derail your game while lifting theirs.

 

[BrotherAP]

Originally posted by SamePendo
Dont compete.
Mind your own buisiness.
IF these women are worthwhile, they will note your masculinity, and go to you.

This is impractical... you have to get her attention somehow. Unless you're the best looking dude at the entire place, she's not going to 'note your masculinity' if she's surrounded by guys giving her attention and you're not giving her anything to go off of. Before she can 'note' anything, you must be displaying that very thing.

DJDamage, very good post. Very similar to my 'party game'.

Still, very tricky to game a girl who is surrounded by guys. Here's my approach:

First off, I peackock - check out Peackocking in College

Second of all, I come into the party with the initial goal of talking to everyone. My friends are more the type to hang out amongst themselves, but they're a large group and provide good social proof because they're always 'looking for me' when I'm gone (and half of them are girls) so I'll be talking to some girls and somebody will tell me "Aaron, Jessica has been looking for you." I really appreciate that my absence is noticed amongst my friends, as other people notice that and it provides excellent social proof - but not necessary at all. I can do just as well at a party when I show up alone (often making friends there, who will later look for me when I'm gone)

I always pay the least initial attention to my target in any given group. 9 times out of 10, this frustrates her and she'll do/say something to get your attention. For example:

I walk up to a group of 4 girls and 2 guys - I'll usually open one of the guys and completely ignore the girls at first. Usually I can get the guys laughing, and introductions take place and I'll slowly include the girls in the conversation - but 'accidently' fail to notice the target (who, as the hottest girl in a group, is wondering why I'm not giving her the most attention). If I do it right, I can get her to feed me something to qualify her (example: I talk to the guys about snowboarding, ask the entire group who snowboards. If she says she does - I ask her a question about her favorite mountain/trick/brand etc. If agree, she has earned my approval and I'll ask her name - even if she already introduced herself - like as if I just noticed her for the first time).

This works even for the girls with three guys pressing them - because you win over the guys before the girls, and completely ignore her until all the guys are already talking to you.

Once I have her talking to me, I spend a couple of minutes establishing rapport, but hint towards an impending reason that I have to leave (the group, not the party) - usually somebody I promised I'd talk to - and get the phone number right then and more or less ignore her for the rest of the night (except for maybe some smiles, or bumping into her in a crowded area but not stopping to chat). This is especially gold if she sees you gaming other girls (who saw you get her number). Don't underestimate female jealousy. Anyway, the point is that you don't have to compete with the guys for her attention - if there's too much competition at that moment, get the number and call her on sunday night when she won't be surrounded by dudes.

I do this when I find it too difficult to isolate the girl if she has that many guys hounding her. Though, if she's interested enough, she might isolate you - this is where DJ Damages suggestion of announcing where you will be is pure gold. It gives her that oppurtunity.

One good technique for combination isolation/qualification that has been working for me is this: Ask question -> if answer is good, express approval by saying "Sweet, I'll drink to that", then get her to finish her drink (if it's, say, half a beer) and finish mine as well. Then look at her and say "Oops, looks like I need a refill. Don't get me too much foam!" (no, I don't say exactly that every time - I'm ad-libbing here) and hand her the cup with a smirk. I'll wait a second, then, as if I'm giving in, say "Oh, alright, I'll come with". Providing nobody volunteers to come along (sometimes you'll have tagalongs for the girl surrounded by guys), you've got her isolated - if the crowd is thick, lead her by the hand through and you've got kino. After refilling the drinks, lead her outside or into an isolated area, and from there you should be able to get her home with you (or at least a kiss close).

 

[BrotherAP]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
Telling stories........Why not just talk about stuff in general, thats easier and more varied, while if u really need to tell everyone about stuff u do u can still "relate" the topic at hand to the discussion.

I love telling stories. It adds another dimension to the discussion, makes people laugh (if you're good at it), and really distinguishes you in a group because you end up leading the discussion. If you have a group of people (especially girls) listening intently and laughing, other people will notice and want to get in on the fun.

Sure, you could talk to people and not tell stories. Don't do it if you don't enjoy it. I, personally, see no disadvantage to it.

So my question is - why not tell them? Unless you really do not enjoy doing it, there's no reason not to.

 

[TxCowboy]

or do what Hitch does .... hand her a 5 and say "Need a jack and coke" and then walk away .... act like the H0 is a waitress ....

OR

Just hit up the next set of chicks who are just standing there drinking beer and need some companionship .....

Story time is always good ... just dont get too engrossed in a story because they may get bored and split ... tell em enuf to make em laugh and get em wet .....

-L8rs

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Originally posted by Balla_Baby_69
Seems like the first week of college whenever I would start talking to a girl things would be going well and then other guys start talking to the same girl and competition arises.

For example, last night at the party no-less than 4 dudes were pushing up on this one girl I was trying to get at. I mean, even afterward when we all went to hang out I couldn't get much time in (hardly anyone could) cus of the dudes around.

It seems like it is hard to get a girl when everyone is trying, so what can I do differently to help ensure that I come out on top? I mean, I can make her laugh, do the kino pretty well, etc, etc, etc but it seems like the other guys are doing that pretty well too.

Advice?

How was she dressed? Was she slutty?

 

[undesputable]

Originally posted by SamePendo
Dont compete.
Mind your own buisiness.
IF these women are worthwhile, they will note your masculinity, and go to you.

yes but at the same time no.... of course you have to compete, the thing is that you shouldnt make it obvious...

yes you should mind your own buisness, but you still got to throw a cf line of something she says or make fun of something stupid that she says. this way she notices you, and shes outraged that youre treating the ONLY girl there the way you are. by this time she should be wanting to talk to you, but just make yourself look busy and ignore her. as the night progresses, if youve done everything right she should start coming onto you, so take it little by little teasing her ans stuff....by the end of the night you should **** her and laugh in your friends face (jk).

Im speaking from experience here....one time there were 4 other guys plus me, and we were in a hotel room, we expected more girls but they never came.....soooo at the end of the night 1 guy left, 3 stayed, i stayed and the girl stayed....the 3 guys just kinda went to sleep on the bed together! while i was ****ing the brains out of the girl on the couch...

if anything yall should just gangbang the ***** if shes really slutty.

 

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