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That doesn't sound THAT easy. I mean you are taking her out on a date, even if it goes no where. Thats half the game right there. Ok thats one form of the FZ. But I mean from reading forums, it seems like most FZs never even get that far. The girl never even has any idea the guy wants more...

Well I assumed that since there so many guys on the internet complaining about the dreaded friendzone it was easy to get into. So are you saying that even though the friendzone is so hated by guys, it actually is not easy to get into and takes as much work as a regular friendship?

Ok maybe I'm messing up two separate things LJBF rejection and the Friend Zone. What I'm interested in is how guys get into the friend zone.

Isn't that basically a LJBF friendship? IDK you hear both AFCs and PUAs talk about the friendzone like its the worst thing in the world. But I mean if you have no friends, friendship is friendship.

A lot of guys on here complain about the "Lets Just Be Friends Zone ". When they try to start a romantic relationship with a girl she says lets just be friends. Do you think this is a good way to make friends? Its like the negotiation tactic where you make a huge false request, which makes...

Does the dating world going back to the new paleolithic age make life worthless? Murdoch's theoretical journal which is the official ideology of America and thus the entire world has endorsed the evopsych worldview: The New Dating Game | The Weekly Standard Now I'm sure no one will believe me...

Well I'm more of a misanthrope, than a misogynist. Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that rewarding evil is worse than evil itself. Neville Chamberlain's appeasement deserves a lot of responsibility for Hitler's crimes, but few would say he is as evil or more evil than Hitler. And as I...

Are women biologically programmed to reward cruelty, evil and domination? Of course any complaints that girls go for bad boys and jerks instantly labels one a nice guy beta males. To the extent that it is possible, I actually consider myself somewhat of an impartial outside observer. I was an...

I kind of regret not joining PUA back in 2004 when I first read the DJ Bible. But on the other hand the most important thing about PUA is not the individual tricks or tactics, its the seduction community. And in that sense the bigger and less "secret" it becomes, the bigger the PUA army. Which...

I got a PM asking me about some philosophical books I would recommend and I thought I'd share my opinions here. I think the essence of philosophy for me is the opposite of Zen living in the moment, it is purposely living outside the moment with a sense of detachment. In some sense being the...

Well the inclinations that come naturally to everyone in our society (eg wanting to get laid), don't really drive me. So what is first nature to everyone else, has to be made a rational argument to me, and so I see PUA as sort of a Hegelian duty as opposed to others who feel it internally. I...

Ea Gold, Well despite the fact that I'm not religious many of the philosophical questions I grapple with are theological in nature and the thought experiments in questioning God AS IF he did exist are worth asking. For what purpose would a perfect God create an imperfect universe, is free will...

Well thats true I have no friends and am a virgin. I'm poison to the gene's survival instinct. But I don't really think my philosophy is personal like my dad claims. I've read a plethora of PUA literature since 2004, and made a few weak attempts to put DeAngelo, Strauss, NLP, mystery etc into...

Well, if all possible actions are manifestations of the will to power then the term becomes meaningless. I'm suffering greatly from Heidegger's sense of flungness. We are just flung into life, not in a time and place of our choosing. We are never given the choice is this the existence I wish to...

Well I remain agnostic neutral on whether or not Plato's Republic possibility is "actually" true. But power decides truths. And the worldview of power in 2009 USA would say that any utopian schemes are against human nature. Like I said, I accept what power says is true is true. Which is why my...

Well I didn't graduate college, I just stopped going just short of graduation, and got straight Fs for the semester. I'm currently living on my own burning through my savings. I'm not supported by my folks except to the extent that a large part of my saving came from them originally. I suppose...

Ok so I know on a Darwinian level its simple. Humans are just selfish-gene survival machines designed to ensure that chemical information in DNA survives and is self-replicated. If I don't get a job, I don't eat, and I'm a malfunctioning program. The thing is sometime along the Darwinian...

How do I become a bottom-feeder, getting large quantities of low qualitity girls? I was reading this book about socially skilled. And there was this case of Bottom-feeding Bud. He had been unpopular in high school getting no dates, and had no job or home. But he found it very easy to get...