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Agreed, but in all technicality isnt that playin the game? you remove yourself from her game and put her into yours. Its always a game, always will be. The men that know how to put her into our game and control it are the ones who come out on top aka DJ's am I right?

Agreed Do not give her the "Needy" feeling. Why? You could run into two different types of B*tch girls. B*tch Girl number one = Siphons your money, your lifestyle, eliminates your friends, and ultimately your happiness. B*tch Girl number two= She is crazy, literally ****ing crazy...

Very good point! For some reason that never crossed my mind... : /

What do you do against a woman who can play the game as well as you? I know what I do, I am just curious what everyone else does. I want the stories/moves of those who fail and succeed. We learn from our mistakes do we not?

I am going to do this one, seems the easiest and the best. Thank you for the advice everyone i really appreciate it.

Ok, assuming she does pick up from another phone, I am pretty damn sure I can charm her if I can get her to hang out any suggestions on how to approach it? Basically what would be my excuse to call from a different phone?

Ok, but what am I looking for when I do this? I think I know but I want to see if its something I am missing. Yea I texted her yesterday Feb 22nd , so yes today would be today the 23rd. Yea I see what you are saying with 3 days in a row coming off as needy. I am pretty sure I think about this...

This should be so simple... but for some reason it is not. I working and this girl came in, in my eyes she was drop dead gorgeous like a perfect 10. It's really easy for me to keep my cool and not get all tongue tied around beautiful women. I am actually pretty damn good with beautiful women...