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No problem. I don't agree with alot that David DeAngelo says, but the one about us guys sticking together and learning from each other makes a heck of alot of sense! Lord knows the ladies do it enough!

Thanks....I can't count the number of girls I've done this with! :cry: I've seen the signs of affection and interest in alot of girls, and women! But I just didn't know how to interpret them and act on them. So I just stayed in that Nice Guy mode. I never showed them that I was a man as well...

I had to learn it through horrible, long-term experince. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I don't think I am. If you want to be with a woman, be more than her friend....you can't be her friend. Not at first of course. Being a woman's friend, listening to her problems...thats the surest way...