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Thanks for the advice guys. I understand that her body language is important in knowing when to close but i find it easier going in with a plan (confidence thing more than thinking i'll be more successful). Shezz; that's some pretty sound advice- thanks alot.

I'm reading The Game at the moment and was wondering what you would do when you've ticked all her IOI boxes and move for the kiss. The response to recieving a no seems a bit cold ("i didn't say you could, it just looked like there was somehting on your mind"). I don't want to read to deeply into...