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Is there any way to get out of the dreaded "Let's Just Be Friend's" zone. There is this girl I know, and I seemed to slip into the "zone". I have started "seeing" someone else recently for social proof. If I start displaying this new girl's picture and start talking about her with the girl...

Bam Date #2 very successul. Went to a movie, long walk, then something light to eat. Lasted about three and a half hours, and then went for the kiss at the end. She really wanted it and had no objections. Next date is already set up. Thanks all.

Good man, scrre tje botch..

and be thrown into the "Let's just be friends" bin. That one really sucks.

Thanks Reto. Your right about the PLAN. I just set up date #2, and definitely had the PLAN laid out for pizza and a few games of pool. She agreed to the whole plan. She asked if I wanted to do it tommorrow, but I stuck with my PLAN for Monday evening, and she agreed again. Man, is this...

You don't want to get TOO original on the first date.

mini-golf Haven't done it yet, but I have been told that is makes a great date, and get some Kino action in. Might try it soon myself.

answering machines Don't make a date with an answering machine. If you don't get hold of her, trying again later.

ideas for a date Shooting pool and grabbing some pizza is an excellent dating idea, so is going to Starbuck's for a coffee (especially date #1). Works for me.

Can you turn a girl that LJBF'd you back into a potential g/f if you show up with another chick?

A second date I was thinking either taking her for a game of pool and having something to eat, or taking her to the golf driving range, then something to eat. See seems really keen on the golf thing, same as myself. Any tips on the abobe two second date suggestions? Any other suggestions...

finally got off the clueless AFC train Hi all: Took the girl out on a date yesterday evening to Starbucks for a coffee. I spent a total of $5 on this girl, instead of wining and dining her like a lot of AFC's do (no flowers, just coffee and a chat for almost two hours). And definitely...

Hi all: I'm planning on meeting some nice woman for a coffee tomorrow night, and unless I screw up really bad, I know I can get a more formal date with this girl. This girl is really bending over backwards to accomodate me and to see me. She has even e-mailed me to "have a good weekend"...