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I have remembered another myth, the actual truth for which that I realized even as a kid. 7. "Stay on your purpose/grind, and the women will come" - This is a very widespread talking point across nearly all red pill authors and youtubers. I believe that some even argued that women would start...

A quality woman (who is very rare these days) knows how to recognize potential pumps & dumps before they happen (just by assessing the man). They also even tend to avoid certain types of men and places because of those tendencies. I think that women that are in and out of relationships, ONS...

Hi BackInTheGame78. By default, when talking about high value men, we are referencing a very small percentage of men. For an average or even above average woman in her 30s or 40s, being able to hook up with such a man, every now and then, is enough to keep her striving/dreaming to be in a...

Hi BadBoy89. I strongly disagree on the “Unless the man is genetically blessed, tall, etc, he won’t get the time of day from women in 20s." point. Literally the easiest years for picking up women for me and my closest friends were our late teens/early twenties. During that period, women are...

I am bumping this thread, since points 1 and 3 of my original post (red pill myths) are getting more and more contested.

Hi @Manure Spherian - I did such a thread a few months ago. I think I did a good summary of the main red pill myths there. You are welcome to contribute - https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/lets-be-real-here-pt-5-these-red-pill-principles-are-outdated.279167/

Mate, I get it. You are looking for a verbal game formula, to get you sex after15-30 minutes of interaction. What I'm saying is that for such a short timeframe, you should have something that mesmerizes her instantly - either high status or good looks (or both). This unlocks her interest and...

Well, Having sex with easy/trashy women is kind of fun for a while, but it is not something to brag about. It's in a man's nature to strive to have things, that other men can't have. Such women are a good pick to break trough droughts, or when you have a lot of work related stress, for example...

Hi Chronix. Fast sex is usually a result of good (male) looks and an intoxicated and desensitized (to sex) woman. Although 15-30 mins sound like a very trashy woman or in her "discovering myself"/ "hot girl summer phase". Game is not needed at all, unless the guy is socially awkward.

Well, there are some women that use SM in moderation (who have only Messenger, but don't log into FB and so on). It's still not ideal, but definitely better than the average ones. You can scout for such by joining new social circles/hobby groups. And yes, such women are rare. The only one that...

I have said it in older threads - I am from and have lived all my life in Eastern Europe (in the Balkans). There has been a huge shift in culture, traditional values, marriage, dating and so on in the last 25+ years. We now have both more and more single childless 30+ year old women (alpha...

Yes, this is Hypergamy working against you. If a quality woman finds out that a guy she likes has not had any LTR experience, the question in her head would most likely be "Why hasn't any woman stayed with him, if he's so great?" And she deducts points from your status mentally. Her LTR sh*t...

My point is that if she already likes you, and is an LTR girl herself, an uncertain frame might tip the scales in the wrong direction. And there are questions and behaviors that you cannot fake later on.

How is being in an LTR at a certain point in your life cementing one's status as a provider? Using that logic, there wouldn't have been any cheating outside of marriage, ever (and a marriage cements you as a even bigger provider). Since you have already committed to another woman. Been loved...

Yep, this is important if a man wants a quality woman from his social circle, or a quality woman in general. I am not interested in LTRs with sloots.

As you probably know from my previous threads, I know and also say that women prioritize looks and height. However, if the woman has a low notch count in her mid twenties for example (very rare, but there are still some here and there), she would also want to know whether the guy is serious...

All of this is true, however, it's related mainly to dealing with either older or more experienced women. My point was that in order for a guy to date a quality and low notch count woman, he has to be well versed in LTRs himself. Also, such a woman would not tolerate to be a plate or be...

My observations were from my social circles, so everyone there was aware of each person's relationship situation. I would argue that social circles are the best places for finding LTR's.

In this thread I am mainly focusing on feminine women, who have not burnt out from life and racked up notch counts. Late 30s and so on divorced women are often already broken themselves, regardless what they look for (they have set a precedent, if they initiated the divorce).

There are also some mid twenties women who still value a man's LTR capabilities, but are very rare and very sought after. Usually coming from a healthy family, where the father held the masculine role (very rare nowadays).