This has disaster written all over it. I take you haven't read other posts on SoSuave about this. If not, I suggest you do.
But to summarize everyone's advice about such situations, here it goes: Don't.
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Toxic is a way of the slightly wrong way of putting it. I'd just define it as women tend to enjoy drama hence why "bad boys" have that appeal to them.
I wrote about it in an article a while back. I'll leave a link down below but it is for premium members. I'll leave a quick summary as it...
What about Financial freedom did you discuss about? Her giving you her number does not necessarily mean she was sexually attracted, the reason I ask is because it could be an MLM person trying to get you in their business.
If that is not the case, and it is just a random convo then older women...
With OLD, we say we are indifferent and we may very well think that. But deep down, maybe subconsciously, it does bother us and it does take a toll.
Let's stop kidding ourselves and trying to convince OLD is in any way beneficial to men. We know the algorithms, we know the mindset, and we know...
You need to accomplish something for yourself and your future FIRST. Confidence is an internal journey.
PS: Focusing on women will only distract you and give you a false sense of confidence.
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In this case, it is best to be direct and straightforward.
As other members have correctly assessed, it sounds like orbiter maintenance. Test her by leading and making it clear you want to meet up and escalate. If she is wishy-washy, there is your firm confirmation she wanted the quick...
This. Harley has a strong point. Again, women are in-the-moment creatures. And yes, if this was a Halloween party, their mindset is go-all-out-and-have-a-blast-tomorrow-I'll-be-back-to-normal-like-nothing-happened.
But don't feel bad if this is the case. This literally just happened to me, I...
I wouldn't recommend that after getting the number. I suggest 2 to 3 days after the first date but not after getting the number.
I would text 1 day after tops or even the next day. You want to continue the momentum of the in-person interaction. Girls are very "in the moment" types of beings...
The key is to set the dynamic up for a second date during the first date. Intentionality is important in your conversations. Ideally, you want to give the girl a peek into your world during the first date, and perhaps allow her to give you a peek into her world on the second. Or alternatively...
Women are overly used to being chased. There is a difference between chasing and pursuing.
Ideally, you want both parties to pursue each other. When you don't chase a particular woman, it often throws them off and this can go two ways depending on how she views you or has labeled you so far...
Remember guys, men are the relationship gatekeepers and women are the sex gatekeepers. Withholding sex in a relationship is a huge red flag and a sign of toxic/negative behavior. Especially when it is withheld in order to achieve/obtain something. Worse when it's withheld because there is no...
Either B or C.
Whatever you do, do not wear the same costume two nights in a row to the same bar. It kinda screams creepy and desperate.
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Only one way to find out.
PS: Good for you interacting and getting those digits IRL. Better yet, while doing something you both like.
Note: Regardless of the outcome you had a good hike, got some cool pics, and practiced your "game". A win all around in my book! Getting a date, maybe some sex...
Furthermore, not because of your (or anyone's) experience with women being not too positive it means you need to ignore women and become a monk. You can say that with life in general. You see, life does not revolve around us. Society cannot and should not cater to our every emotion, need...
I like this post. Only because men's mental health is important to me and one of the why's of Modern Man Advice.
Having said that, we have to be careful not to get caught up in the "political correctness" of the terms. While I agree illness can be associated with a physical/tangible occurrence...
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