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Ah, but that's the availability heuristic. You and your boys smashed girls at the bar all the time so surely all girls will bang strangers

Disclaimer. Yeah I know the survey doesn't make much sense, everything else is solid

Fixed

http://tinyurl.com/zxsu9tl Interesting read. Honestly makes more sense than 99% of the stuff here.

LOL no. You don't need to get defensive. I was just saying expect them to flake so you don't get disappointed. I've actually met up with 5 or 6 Tinder girls this year, but they seem to be the exception to the rule, as 4 or 5 times as many seem to flake as compared to following through

Can't call it not a flake until it actually happens

Lulz. That's the strategy I was using before. I posted it on here and everybody said I was acting too thirsty, and I needed to build more rapport

Well I'm told I'm attractive fairly often, I know my face is about an 8. Body wise I could definitely do better. I'm just over 6 foot, but I don't have a ton of muscle definition. I'm not ripped nor do I have twigs for arms. I'm slim and fairly average. Diet and get in the gym, I know, I know...

That's fair. What's your preferred venue for meeting women? I've given up on bar game. The phone numbers come easy but the conversion rate is worse than Tinder. Only once out of maybe 100 numbers have I ever gone out with a girl I met at the bar. She turned out to be a crazy single mom.

Yeah, I suppose you're right about the whole validation thing. Guess I better let go of the training wheels and move forward to in person game. Good to know my text game is better though. Side note, I know girl 2 wasn't there for validation because her profile explicitly stated she was there...

Girl 2:

Okay guys, I took your advice like last time and have been trying to build more rapport with women on Tinder. I'm also trying to open the conversation more naturally, with observational comments based on their profile rather than canned lines. However, a lot still seem to be ghosting me after...

Your tips are already producing better results. Thank you guys.

Say what you like but girls almost always message back on that. It's good to use when you can't think of anything else to say. Didn't ask for help with opening. It's closing that is my problem.

Well, what I can tell you guys that I have learned from this discussion and reflection on past scenarios: 1. I need to build more rapport with women before asking them out, whether it be in person or online. 2. I need to be more decisive and direct. "Meet me at x place at x time". No trying to...

Well, you could be right...It's happened to me before too when there was some playful flirting/small talk thrown in too, though. I actually use to do a lot more of that, but I guess gradually over the years I've been of the school of thought to set up the date ASAP for maximum efficiency...I may...

I guess you make a really good point there. Brad Pitt rule....Thanks! Now, is there anything that can be done to make counter offers more likely to occur?

Fair enough. What happens though, when you are decisive and say "meet me at x place at x time" and then it genuinely conflicts with their work/school schedule? Because I've had that happen too

Hey guys, so I seem to have a bit of a problem. I just can't seem to get women to date me consistently. I'll get phone numbers from girls in real life and on Tinder and then when it comes time to ask for the date, I get radio silence. This happens 95% of the time and I'm starting to get really...