There is scarcity in Every Aspect of dating – A call to action for Men in Pickup

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When characterising the “abundance mindset” in dating I began to think overtime that this theory was largely false and didn’t really live up to the longterm acid test. The reality was that dating was brutal and competitive more so than I’d have myself believe. Living in London I was acutely aware of the brutality of the sexual market place. In a rich city things were competitive , women hiring model shots to give themselves the edge over one another, when I was in my early teens I wouldn’t understand this. Now that I’m in 30s I realised how competitive the game was when I’d speak to women living in London how they’d have Saudi men flying them out across the world, lavishing them with gifts and sending them money I realised then that dating was more brutal and competitive that I made it out to be. I perhaps took my life for granted in my early 20s thinking I had all the time in the world to make mistakes , be lazy and not really that dedicated to the craft of cold approaching but as time passed and I watched a lot of men in my social circle not really achieving their dating goals. I realised that every aspect of dating is scarce, from the time you have to approach , the time it takes to find “truly girlfriend” worthy women and the time you have to build your smv. I wrote this blog post to show some examples of set scarcity in the dating world in hopes that we as men become a little more cognisant of it.

Theoretically we can’t all make it

If every man and woman aspires to date a 10 we can’t all date 10s as beauty in of itself is a highly scare asset . That’s what makes beauty special and banging a hot chick in of itself as a special moment. We value beauty because it’s scarce .The same way in which women value six pack abs because having a good body in of itself is scarce, women value resources and wealth because being wealthy in of itself is scarce and the majority of men – particularly in the developing world are not wealthy. Not every woman can dating a millionaire or a financially secure men- statistically the majority simply can’t -scarcity is an attractive concept and not every woman and man can attract the high tier. Not every man can date a high value woman who’s kind and down to earth either – good women are as scarce as good men in the modern world based on my experiences approaching for 4 years out of roughly 800 approaches I’d say only around 5-6 of women I dated were true “wifey” material.

In the self-help industry many men and women are bombarded with the “abundance mentality” that there are good women and men everywhere- I’d argue there isn’t , finding value and truly compatibility from high value people that can elevate your life to the next level is really rare and hard to do .

Your Time Is scarce in the dating world

You only have so much time to date the people you want and for most men it will take a lot of time- hence why I recommend men to cold approach and increase options as early as possible in life. You only have so much time to create options for yourself and cold approach in of itself is time consuming – finding a good fit for your long term life takes time , hard work and dedication especially if you want a wife and family then you really have to put the numbers in and approach . Even if you’re getting hot women consistently finding the ones with positive attributes and those who are worthy of being the wives to your children are rare- so time is of the essence if you want to build a family – especially if you’re a man. Women too need to spend a long about of time making decisions between **** boys and men who can genuinely provide for their children if they don’t theres a risk of being a single mum and future struggling in the dating world further down the line. So for both genders time is limited , the risks are always high but for men I’d argue the maturity phase takes a lot longer time and mental investment which most aren’t ready for given the high drop out rate in the Pua community .

Opportunities to Find High Quality wingmen are rare

With the rise of online dating the pua community simply got obliterated – PUA forums have diminished in popularity and simply don’t have as many people participating as in thte early 2010s. Finding good quality wingmen again is a numbers game which requires a lot of work and discipline , you simply have to put the work in as the majority either won’t be compatible or will will have neurodevelopment disorders like Aspergers or more severe autism that will make it difficult for them to improve their dating life ( not saying its impossible but it’s a low probability outcome and makes them more incompetent as wingmen)

Of course its also apparent that the best quality men usually leave the pua space the quickest as they usually are the ones to gleen a ltr the quickest from doing it. High quality wingmen tend to retire earlier from the game as they have more opportunities to settle down. So if you do find a good quality wingman respect your time with them- they might not be around a long time in the PUA space.

Time is scarce to improve your SMV

You can only travel to so many places to become a more adventurous person – you can only pick up so many skills – Time is definitely a scarce commodity in these regards. Achieving mastery in a skillset takes around 10,000 hours – there’s not really a lot of time in ones life to achieve mastery so regular discipline really is important in a lot of aspects. SMV improvement is probably even more important for men than it is for women and requires serious time investment – so the younger you start and outline your plans for value improvement the more time you have to cold approach with high smv and increase your options .

Only a small portion of people make it out of daygame with even a single lay

Daygame success in of itself is scarce- most men don’t have the mental attributes to survive doing it for the longterm so success in this aspect is rare in of itself. Despite the optimism I had when I started daygaming in late 2017 I found that the majority of men in the daygame scene really struggled even garner a single date . I also became disillusioned with how many people seemingly “hid behind” marketing ahead of taking actual action. Such things would include: taking pictures of attractive women they weren’t actually dating or boasting online with exaggerated stories of their love lives. Soon I was realising that a lot of the coaches I admired and respect weren’t actually approaching or having the success that I thought they did.

This was surprising to me but it became self-evident once I did daygame for myself that speaking to strangers is difficult and has a huge adjustment process, beginners need to give it time – minimum 3-6 months to really adjust and to build discipline in this area of their lives.


Conclusion

No doubt this blog post sucks, it’s written in poor prose and pretty basic language with maybe an overly simplistic view on the world but I wanted to drive home the point that scarcity is no doubt something that effects everyone whether it be a female 10 deciding which man is husband material or the male 1 who is in his mid 30s who really needs to drop weight and put in serious time and dedication into approaching women – the reason I wrote this blog was to showcase the importance for men to really utilise their time well, increase smv and cold approach often and understand that time is scarce and we really only have so much to give towards achieving our relationship goals. This viewpoint maybe ultimately a bit nihilistic and written in a “Rollo Tomassi” fashion but I guess it’s important to take things seriously and be aware we probably take the time we have now for granted when it comes to trying to achieve our relationship goals.
 

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Hi Isildur,
This seems word for word the same as Reddit dating advice for Men,did you write it?
 

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I agree that there is scarcity but cold approaches will make it worse. All you’re doing is inflating women’s ego making it harder for men because then women will have a much lower drive to improve themselves. This results in women being just as mid as men when it comes to dating and relationships. It’s two different outcomes from the same problem.

Improving yourself by finding hobbies, finding your style, exposing yourself to other cultures(youtube and livestreams help out a lot for this if traveling isn’t your thing), making friends or acquaintances, having good posture, and trying to be a good human in general will level up men to the point that women have to improve themselves in order to compete.

Don’t settle for low value and don’t encourage low value behaviors.
 

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Lol.....Cold Approaching is not the best way to pick up Quality women. Setting yourself up in high quality places where there's good people and having great social skills and emotional IQ is the best way to meet women. You've gotta be a gentleman. It could be at a Church functions and festivities, through work, an organization or at a hobby group. When you start socializing frequently at Cool Quality places, these type of things naturally and organically takes care of itself. It's called Social Momentum, go out and befriend everyone even that old lady who happens to be your neighbor...she might hook you up with her niece or something.
 

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You don't need to date a 10 to be happy. If you think you do, I'd suggest the problem is with you and you are using their hotness to replace some sort of emptiness inside you, but it never can.

If you don't want to deal with nonsense then date women who are 7's or 8's. Life isn't about only how hot the woman you date is, there are a lot more important things to worry about in the grand scheme of things.
 

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Only a small portion of people make it out of daygame with even a single lay

Daygame success in of itself is scarce- most men don’t have the mental attributes to survive doing it for the longterm so success in this aspect is rare in of itself. Despite the optimism I had when I started daygaming in late 2017 I found that the majority of men in the daygame scene really struggled even garner a single date . I also became disillusioned with how many people seemingly “hid behind” marketing ahead of taking actual action. Such things would include: taking pictures of attractive women they weren’t actually dating or boasting online with exaggerated stories of their love lives. Soon I was realising that a lot of the coaches I admired and respect weren’t actually approaching or having the success that I thought they did.

This was surprising to me but it became self-evident once I did daygame for myself that speaking to strangers is difficult and has a huge adjustment process, beginners need to give it time – minimum 3-6 months to really adjust and to build discipline in this area of their lives.
Non-bar approaching (also called daygame) is a very tough path. It is horribly inefficient.

The majority of women between ages 18-49 aren't seeking new penis at the moment they are approached in a non-bar setting.

Most women in the grocery store or bookstore will not be open to chatting. Most will let the conversation fizzle out within 30 seconds.

Most women outdoors or on the general gym floor will be wearing earbuds/headphones will be actively discouraging approaches, unlike grocery store/bookstore/mall women.

Fitness class formats are majority female and most females who attend fitness classes are not very sociable after classes.

Even when a man carefully selects his non-bar venues (chooses locations in neighborhoods with a mostly unmarried population and age appropriate), he will still discover that most women don't want to talk to him, likely because they already have a boyfriend. Going out to the suburbs in most USA metros means that most women will already have a husband. Most women with boyfriends/husbands aren't actively seeking to replace them in any given moment.

Opportunities to Find High Quality wingmen are rare

With the rise of online dating the pua community simply got obliterated – PUA forums have diminished in popularity and simply don’t have as many people participating as in thte early 2010s. Finding good quality wingmen again is a numbers game which requires a lot of work and discipline , you simply have to put the work in as the majority either won’t be compatible or will will have neurodevelopment disorders like Aspergers or more severe autism that will make it difficult for them to improve their dating life ( not saying its impossible but it’s a low probability outcome and makes them more incompetent as wingmen)

Of course its also apparent that the best quality men usually leave the pua space the quickest as they usually are the ones to gleen a ltr the quickest from doing it. High quality wingmen tend to retire earlier from the game as they have more opportunities to settle down. So if you do find a good quality wingman respect your time with them- they might not be around a long time in the PUA space.
Bar approaching has been appealing to men since the Sexual Revolution because it is a targeted environment. Women who appear in bars/nightlife venues tend to be unmarried and seeking new penis.

Despite the more targeted market, women at bars tend to have their defenses up big time. They reject most approaches and sometimes reject men harshly despite seeking new penis.

Many men don't enjoy their bar approaching experiences. It's very discouraging to go out to bars, talk to women, and go home at 1-3 AM alone with no sexual options for that night and no first dates set for a future night. This causes a lot of men to drop out of nightlife fast.

Some good friends also don't have the ability to talk to strangers in public. While they might be good friends, they are not good at the bars.

The point on neurodiverse individuals is also a good point.

Later in life, males in their 30s start to lack companions in their lives who can go out to bars with them. Some men solve this problem by using non-bar approaching as a solution. Non-bar approaching is an option for solo men because it's more normal to be alone and without a group in the majority of non-bar venues. Often times, the women are also separated from a group. A good example of this is grocery store approaching.
 

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Lol.....Cold Approaching is not the best way to pick up Quality women. Setting yourself up in high quality places where there's good people and having great social skills and emotional IQ is the best way to meet women. You've gotta be a gentleman. It could be at a Church functions and festivities, through work, an organization or at a hobby group. When you start socializing frequently at Cool Quality places, these type of things naturally and organically takes care of itself. It's called Social Momentum, go out and befriend everyone even that old lady who happens to be your neighbor...she might hook you up with her niece or something.
You are in a good place. You are in the Philippeans. I think if someone is in the Philippeans or Latin America they are going to get a quality girlfriend compared to North America. The culture is more warmer and embrasing for strangers mingling together and gender dyanmics feel more natural and down to earth (ie like it's normal to connect to and talk with a girl rather than feeling there is allot of social pressure bogging you down). There is a reason you won't use Tinder in America, but when you are in your home countries, you have a nice time meeting women there. There is something isolating and lonely when people from those countries, come an immigrate to North America, that people feel that difference.
 

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You don't need to date a 10 to be happy. If you think you do, I'd suggest the problem is with you and you are using their hotness to replace some sort of emptiness inside you, but it never can.

If you don't want to deal with nonsense then date women who are 7's or 8's. Life isn't about only how hot the woman you date is, there are a lot more important things to worry about in the grand scheme of things.
When someone uses a 10, it might be a 10 to him, but a 6 to someone else. Allot of these ratings are subjective. A guy who is a chubby chaser version of a 10 might have more meat on the bones than another guy who likes spinners.
 

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I agree that there is scarcity but cold approaches will make it worse. All you’re doing is inflating women’s ego making it harder for men because then women will have a much lower drive to improve themselves. This results in women being just as mid as men when it comes to dating and relationships. It’s two different outcomes from the same problem.

Improving yourself by finding hobbies, finding your style, exposing yourself to other cultures(youtube and livestreams help out a lot for this if traveling isn’t your thing), making friends or acquaintances, having good posture, and trying to be a good human in general will level up men to the point that women have to improve themselves in order to compete.

Don’t settle for low value and don’t encourage low value behaviors.
Interesting take. I never thought cold approaches could make the already uneven gender dynamics become worse. You make a good point though.
 

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inflating women’s ego
Women experience some ego inflation from getting approached in the real world frequently.

This was more noticeable in the pre-internet era and earlier days of the internet when there was more of a bar approaching culture. In these times, women did get their egos boosted from bar approaches but they had to make a lot of effort to look good and show up in public to get that validation.

Now, women just get a friend or a photographer to take some good pictures of them. Then, they post them on a swipe app and get validated via right swipe far more than a woman who went out to bars multiple days a week in 2000 would have gotten.

Instagram comments and Instagram DMs will also contribute to ego inflation far more than nightlife venue approaches.

Swipe apps + Instagram is far more ego inflation than women could get in the real world.
 

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If every man and woman aspires to date a 10 we can’t all date 10s as beauty in of itself is a highly scare asset . That’s what makes beauty special and banging a hot chick in of itself as a special moment. We value beauty because it’s scarce.
Lots of good points in this thread, but I singled this bit out because I disagree with it. First off, I don't believe in 10s. And I also believe that beauty is actually very common. You can see female beauty everywhere you go. It is only rarely when I go out to run and errand when I don't see examples of it. Most women of a certain age are beautiful, in their own way, as long as they aren't fat. Or have shaved off all their hair and dress like a man. Beauty is women's thing, that's what they do.
 

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I agree that there is scarcity but cold approaches will make it worse. All you’re doing is inflating women’s ego making it harder for men because then women will have a much lower drive to improve themselves. This results in women being just as mid as men when it comes to dating and relationships. It’s two different outcomes from the same problem.

Improving yourself by finding hobbies, finding your style, exposing yourself to other cultures(youtube and livestreams help out a lot for this if traveling isn’t your thing), making friends or acquaintances, having good posture, and trying to be a good human in general will level up men to the point that women have to improve themselves in order to compete.

Don’t settle for low value and don’t encourage low value behaviors.
I mean it’s a man’s job to open and increasing their options

cold approaching itself is a sign of leadership and confidence if done right.
 

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Lots of good points in this thread, but I singled this bit out because I disagree with it. First off, I don't believe in 10s. And I also believe that beauty is actually very common. You can see female beauty everywhere you go. It is only rarely when I go out to run and errand when I don't see examples of it. Most women of a certain age are beautiful, in their own way, as long as they aren't fat. Or have shaved off all their hair and dress like a man. Beauty is women's thing, that's what they do.
I think it also depends on where you are in the world

i found quality of women to be much lower in the western world in places like the UK and US with a lot higher quality men competing for a low pool of women

in contrast in the Middle East , Japan,Korea and China the quality of women were much higher and the women much more feminine
 

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Non-bar approaching (also called daygame) is a very tough path. It is horribly inefficient.

The majority of women between ages 18-49 aren't seeking new penis at the moment they are approached in a non-bar setting.

Most women in the grocery store or bookstore will not be open to chatting. Most will let the conversation fizzle out within 30 seconds.

Most women outdoors or on the general gym floor will be wearing earbuds/headphones will be actively discouraging approaches, unlike grocery store/bookstore/mall women.

Fitness class formats are majority female and most females who attend fitness classes are not very sociable after classes.

Even when a man carefully selects his non-bar venues (chooses locations in neighborhoods with a mostly unmarried population and age appropriate), he will still discover that most women don't want to talk to him, likely because they already have a boyfriend. Going out to the suburbs in most USA metros means that most women will already have a husband. Most women with boyfriends/husbands aren't actively seeking to replace them in any given moment.



Bar approaching has been appealing to men since the Sexual Revolution because it is a targeted environment. Women who appear in bars/nightlife venues tend to be unmarried and seeking new penis.

Despite the more targeted market, women at bars tend to have their defenses up big time. They reject most approaches and sometimes reject men harshly despite seeking new penis.

Many men don't enjoy their bar approaching experiences. It's very discouraging to go out to bars, talk to women, and go home at 1-3 AM alone with no sexual options for that night and no first dates set for a future night. This causes a lot of men to drop out of nightlife fast.

Some good friends also don't have the ability to talk to strangers in public. While they might be good friends, they are not good at the bars.

The point on neurodiverse individuals is also a good point.

Later in life, males in their 30s start to lack companions in their lives who can go out to bars with them. Some men solve this problem by using non-bar approaching as a solution. Non-bar approaching is an option for solo men because it's more normal to be alone and without a group in the majority of non-bar venues. Often times, the women are also separated from a group. A good example of this is grocery store approaching.
I’ve met my girlfriend from cold approach and know many who have. For men living in the west it’s a really important tool for improving social skills and improving options , the competition on apps In London for example is simply too steep. The first woman I got laid with from cold approach had 3000 matches on tinder gold even if I’m in the top 10 percent of men ( which I’m not) that still leaves me with 300 other men to compete messaging her

real life always gives you an edge ,of course the failures are high but the juice is eventually worth the squeeze
 

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i found quality of women to be much lower in the western world in places like the UK and US with a lot higher quality men competing for a low pool of women

in contrast in the Middle East , Japan,Korea and China the quality of women were much higher and the women much more feminine
It depends on what you mean by quality. I'm in the US, so when I was saying beauty was common, I was talking about here.
But while beauty is common, character is rare.
 

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the competition on apps In London for example is simply too steep. The first woman I got laid with from cold approach had 3000 matches on tinder gold even if I’m in the top 10 percent of men ( which I’m not) that still leaves me with 300 other men to compete messaging her
The competition in big United States cities is similar to the competition level in London on the swipe apps.

London has better pure street game options compared to most USA cities. Street approaching isn't realistic in most USA cities because a lot of USA cities had a good portion of their population growth after the invention of the automobile. They became automobile centered cities. Foot traffic is less. Many USA cities can have other outdoor game options, such as parks or paths.

The London Daygame Model was developed from approaching on the streets of London.

real life always gives you an edge ,of course the failures are high but the juice is eventually worth the squeeze
I disagree. What happens if a man takes too many rejections from his real life approaches? He might end up doing hundreds to thousands of real life approaches and not get a girlfriend or sex out of it.
 

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Hi Corrector,
"You are in a good place. You are in the Philippeans. I think if someone is in the Philippeans or Latin America they are going to get a quality girlfriend compared to North America. The culture is more warmer and embrasing for strangers"....On the money,IF you are a Westerner...Lovely warm people,with a wonderful reputation in our Hospitals and Child care centres...Yes,you will find a Lady real easy,but they are just soo dumb...Man does not live on Pvussy alone!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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