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My friend is one of those types of girls in those pictures. This method will not work on them unless you are a good looking bartender/bouncer with game. You will definitely need status and money or looks and game to get by. I have a friend that does bag these girls without money or status, but he looks like Justin Bieber and has that certain likable mtv personality that would help him network in to these circles. He’s never had a problem with bagging hot women ever in his life because he has always been a tall pretty boy. The only way for a normal guy to get in to this is become rich or get in to a high status career like a doctor/pilot and looksmax like my other friend. He’s a surgeon that got jacked/bald maxed and exclusively messes around with women like the ones in those photos.

My method is clearly for guys that just want sex with as much women as possible. I wouldn’t personally do it because you are essentially sacrificing your life for pvssy. Your average guy is just never going to be in the position to just bang 100 9s and 10s with zero baggage. I am not here to pitch snake oil to the average guy like some posters on here either. T
…and this is my issue with the whole post.
Your method isn’t really a “method” - it’s just a set of prerequisites most men don’t have. You’re essentially saying that only those with looks, status, money, and social skills can succeed at the avenues you suggested, which excludes the majority. The “fastest” way to get laid is also debatable but I digress.

You point to examples like men who look like Justin Bieber or high-status professionals, but these are people who already have an advantage. If someone is already attractive and socially adept, they’ll succeed in almost any setting whether they’re a cashier, a security guard, music festival employee, an IKEA worker, or other environments such as these where the individual is at a close proximity with women.

In the end, you’re not offering an universal strategy, just a scenario where those with pre-existing advantages naturally do well. If success depends on factors someone can’t easily change, then it’s not really a method at all.
 
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If you have no social media account, but preselection and socialproof in real life, they'll start to put you in higher position than those influencers.
 

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Women who are stand offish, resting ***** face, feminists, or bitter/distrustful women are off putting to men, or may get relegated to recreational use only, which of course makes their personality issues worse over time. Even very physically attractive women will often have these issues (like perhaps your yoga instructor). Bad attitudes, entitlement & insecurity will turn a man off wanting an interaction beyond sex very quickly. And often women don't accept or acknowledge their role in relationship struggles. Then they wonder why they are perpetually single.
The case of that fitness class instructor (it was a cardio based class) is one that I found fascinating. This was a standalone studio where I bought a short term class package and intended to leave once I used up all the classes. This happened in my 2nd to last class in the package.

The instructor had a pleasant demeanor before/after classes and while teaching. That's a small sample.

I've never seen her out at a bar or a typical daygame venue in her leisure time. That's a real test. She might have some issues that would become apparent if she were met in that context. I could imagine that scheduling dates with her might be challenging since she has a regular white collar job and teaches fitness classes on the side.

Your opening sentence is accurate. All of those things would reduce a woman's market value in an extended interaction.

I had a female friend that I wasn't attracted to physically because of her mediocre looks. In thinking about her SMV, her looks were mediocre and her personality was also mediocre. I could imagine her starting drama with men she's dating because she tried that crap with me in a non-sexual friendship. It would probably be worse in a dating relationship. I can also imagine her being bitter/distrustful and having other personality issues due to having ridden the penis carousel. She's in her late 30s and put up a higher notch count. She likely doesn't acknowledge her role in her relationship struggles to the extent that is realistic.

I believe that fitness class instructor goes out to bars enough to get approached a decent amount in real life. She could probably ditch the apps and maybe she has.

My former friend in her late 30s hasn't been approached much in real life since she turned 30.

Having seen lots of guys throw thousands at bottle service in the clubs in Old Town Scottsdale (for example) I can tell you not even that will work on hot industry chicks, who are often at work dressed in bustiers, garters and thongs or some variety of lingerie and are well aware that being eye candy is part of the job, so they learn to be nice, get the big tips and studiously avoid 99.8% of the men oogling them and tipping them. And it's weirdly normalized. My best girlfriend's daughter was a bottle service girl in one of those big clubs. It was always kind of funny to go there with my husband & friend & her husband....and there's the daughter (very tall, model looking girl) with lingerie & a g-string on & that's it, hanging out & serving us while working dressed (undressed) like that. It was like "Whatever".
Old Town Scottsdale has had nightlife venues like that since the 1990s. When I was going to Old Town Scottsdale venues in the 2000s, I didn't go to the venues with the bottle service girls that much. Old Town has had a wide variety of venue types. It's generally a waste of time to hit on those women while they are working. The key is to find those women during their leisure time. The best way to find those women during their leisure time is to have social connections in their world and find out how they spend their leisure time. They can be found through stranger approaching in some venues (for example, if a man goes to the same gym as one of them) but it is less likely.

Old Town is a tough mating environment in general. The best looking women in Old Town are looking for hot guys and/or wealthy guys. Without elite level looks in most Old Town venues, a man is going to need to display possession that signify wealth to get women to give him the time of day/night.
 
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In the end, you’re not offering an universal strategy, just a scenario where those with pre-existing advantages naturally do well. If success depends on factors someone can’t easily change, then it’s not really a method at all.
Lmao okay, you want a highly sought after niche market, you are going to have to be extraordinary yourself.
 

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Old Town is a tough mating environment in general
The equivalent of groaning over the lack of decent Mexican restaurants in Kyiv... Both are far from the most serious problem on the table at the moment
 

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If you really want to get laid and have a 100 plus lay count, then follow this post now!
Today's one of the easiest times to mate in recent memory: So much of the male population is spending most of their free time binge watching, glued to The X Box, or/and griping about how awful The MCU has gotten in the comments section on YouTube, competition is almost non-existent. Just walk outside of your home, and spend a few hours out in the fresh air and sunlight for a few hours, at least 3-5 days a week

Unless of course you're a young Palestinian guy living in Gaza... Remain in your basement until The IDF gets their missile-armed drones out of the air, and Tel Aviv orders Sayeret Egoz to ease up on the ethnic cleansing, if this is the case
 

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Fact. There’s this notion that ordinary men can accrue such a sexual roster by “putting work in”
Yeah, just about everything we desire requires us to exert some form of effort to obtain it: To remove a booger that we find annoying, we have to stick a finger into whichever nostril that dried mucus is jammed up in and pull the damned thing out, rather than simply imagining it disappearing on it's own. The same is true with finding a mate


"Several times when I’ve mentioned this, some people, one who said it more than once, literally have stated that the minimal effort is cleaning oneself after defecating and not “eating Cheeto’s in mom’s basement”

A large percentage of the male population throughout The Post-Industrial West DOESN’T do that on a regular basis. Thus, you're light years ahead of the competition, if you defy stereotypes on this front
 

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Lmao okay, you want a highly sought after niche market, you are going to have to be extraordinary yourself.
When I entered the thread, I was promised the fastest way to get laid in 1-2 years and rack up a 100+ lay count. I expected a shortcut. Instead, your post is just a repackaging of "be in proximity to women and don't be incompetent."

This isn't a real method - it ignores key variables. Being in these environments doesn't guarantee success; plenty of bartenders, bouncers, and cooks don't rack up high lay counts. Social dynamics matter, as women in these spaces date within their scene, so just showing up isn't enough. Competition is real since you're up against guys who already have looks, charm, and status in that world. And your fitness advice is laughably simplistic - just being skinny isn't a magic bullet, and plenty of fit guys still struggle.

If this were truly the fastest way to get laid, then every guy working these jobs would be drowning in vagina - but they aren't, because access alone doesn't create attraction.

You also keep moving the goalpost, shifting from "fastest method" to "well, just be extraordinary," which defeats the point. This isn't a strategy, just a vague suggestion that assumes success will happen on its own.

This is one of those times I wish I could get my time back…
 
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And often women don't accept or acknowledge their role in relationship struggles. Then they wonder why they are perpetually single.
Many male friends who formed relationships in high school and those women are now facing the thruth.
They've made child ignoring red flags.
Tumultuous relationships. Ups and Downs.
But the public image is perfect.
 

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When I entered the thread, I was promised the fastest way to get laid in 1-2 years and rack up a 100+ lay count. I expected a shortcut. Instead, your post is just a repackaging of "be in proximity to women and don't be incompetent."
which is why I said:

propinquity doesn't = sexual attraction.
it's a bit like when that goofball John anthony made a cold approach 'product' and tried to make it sound so clever and 'advanced' when in fact his 'system' was too approach girls, tell them they're cute, and then ask them back to your place for grey goose vodka.
And people were like 'Man, that's so clever!! no wonder he has a 4000 notch count!! (or whatever he claims. I forget). ''such amazing game!!!'

And I was thinking 'how can you people think this is clever and that you've 'learned' anything from this??'. lol. isn't this what everyone other guy whose never even heard of game basically does?

Even though the mysterymethod and all the old school gamers were completely full of $hit, at least they had a concept. The idea of words and verbal wizardry to 'force' attraction in a girl. the negs and cold reads and pushpull and disqualification and blablabla. the 'attraction material'. That's why guys bought it! The idea that your looks and everything else didn't matter because as long as you use the lines/theory in the correct order, you can get any girl! (obviously marketing nonsense, but it has a selling point)

But john anthony and others are effectively saying 'approach girls and hope they think you are hot. If they think you are hot, they'll probably come back to your place for free vodka'. Its like I don't even disagree, but imagine selling that!! And then imagine people buying it and then thinking they've got value for money! I can't imagine anyone other than an alien or something 'learning' something there!

And this 'method' is kind of a warm approach version of that. Be around lots of girls and hope one of them thinks you're good looking.

Again, actually nothing wrong with it and I think that's kind of all any of us are actually doing, but I fail to see anything other than that

I think this is why the community has been kind of stuck in the mud for so long. Nobody believes in the traditional idea of 'game' (and rightly so tbh.) The idea you can force attraction in a girl and take her from 'eww, no!' to 'damn, take me home' because of your 'game'. Nobody talks mysterymethod anymore lol. (and they would if it worked as sold. It's all we'd be speaking about!). But it hasn't been replaced with anything, really. We've gone back to 'hit the gym. get better looking'. But then i'm not sure where that leaves the PUA community lol

There's nothing wrong with the OP, tbh. He's right. Being around tonnes of girls increases the odds that you might get lucky enough for one of them to think you are hot. But lets not pretend it's a cheat code at all. No more than going too a really busy venue at night where there's tonnes and tonnes of hot girls but nearly all guys go home alone (because the girls weren't into him)
 

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I was at a fitness class and overheard the attractive female instructor complain about swipe apps. It's likely that she's selected top tier men off of the apps and failed to get their commitment for some reason.
You are not wrong. The reason possibly was:

She seemed like a penis carousel rider
If you picked up on that, her "top tier men" of choice did as well.
 

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This is one of those times I wish I could get my time back…
Then just go hire a bunch of prostitutes & escorts since you would rather key board jockey on the internet then put in bare minimum effort to make yourself socially available and attractive to women. My advice is not for guys that want instant cheat code sex, that’s what pay to play is for.
 

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which is why I said:



it's a bit like when that goofball John anthony made a cold approach 'product' and tried to make it sound so clever and 'advanced' when in fact his 'system' was too approach girls, tell them they're cute, and then ask them back to your place for grey goose vodka.
And people were like 'Man, that's so clever!! no wonder he has a 4000 notch count!! (or whatever he claims. I forget). ''such amazing game!!!'

And I was thinking 'how can you people think this is clever and that you've 'learned' anything from this??'. lol. isn't this what everyone other guy whose never even heard of game basically does?

Even though the mysterymethod and all the old school gamers were completely full of $hit, at least they had a concept. The idea of words and verbal wizardry to 'force' attraction in a girl. the negs and cold reads and pushpull and disqualification and blablabla. the 'attraction material'. That's why guys bought it! The idea that your looks and everything else didn't matter because as long as you use the lines/theory in the correct order, you can get any girl! (obviously marketing nonsense, but it has a selling point)

But john anthony and others are effectively saying 'approach girls and hope they think you are hot. If they think you are hot, they'll probably come back to your place for free vodka'. Its like I don't even disagree, but imagine selling that!! And then imagine people buying it and then thinking they've got value for money! I can't imagine anyone other than an alien or something 'learning' something there!

And this 'method' is kind of a warm approach version of that. Be around lots of girls and hope one of them thinks you're good looking.

Again, actually nothing wrong with it and I think that's kind of all any of us are actually doing, but I fail to see anything other than that

I think this is why the community has been kind of stuck in the mud for so long. Nobody believes in the traditional idea of 'game' (and rightly so tbh.) The idea you can force attraction in a girl and take her from 'eww, no!' to 'damn, take me home' because of your 'game'. Nobody talks mysterymethod anymore lol. (and they would if it worked as sold. It's all we'd be speaking about!). But it hasn't been replaced with anything, really. We've gone back to 'hit the gym. get better looking'. But then i'm not sure where that leaves the PUA community lol

There's nothing wrong with the OP, tbh. He's right. Being around tonnes of girls increases the odds that you might get lucky enough for one of them to think you are hot. But lets not pretend it's a cheat code at all. No more than going too a really busy venue at night where there's tonnes and tonnes of hot girls but nearly all guys go home alone (because the girls weren't into him)
I agree with you, there’s definitely more to discuss than just “be attractive and show up”. That’s why I think OP’s post is low effort. He didn’t provide any details on how an unsociable man can actually work at a popular nightclub, or even explain how to find that kind of job in today’s job market, or how to build his resume to obtain said job. He also hasn’t tried his technique, so there’s no real substance to back up his claims. Only one member has worked in a restaurant and said it didn’t work. It’s all just surface-level advice with no practical application.

As an example, one thing that can be discussed and the community has forgotten about is that building attraction goes beyond just being present and it is about creating intrigue, emotional stimulation, and mystery. Men are mainly aroused by what they see, but women are deeply influenced by words, stories, and emotional connection. This is why romance novels and verbal charisma have such a strong effect on women - the right words create desire, intrigue, and emotional investment in a way that pure physical appearance often doesn’t. Being good with words is the male equivalent of sending nudes or a thirst trap - it triggers attraction just like visual stimulation works on men.

I don’t think the space has ever really explored how to make a woman blush or get inside her mind to create a response that bypasses logic. People obsess over being in the right place at the right time, but hardly anyone talks about how to make her heart race once you are there.

Another thing that isn’t discussed is how to pick the right target - how to fill their void and make them emotionally vulnerable. Since everyone has different values, personalities, and experiences, the community often glosses over this key part of seduction, focusing more on surface-level techniques and environments. They rarely focus on what makes the person tick.

Anyways, there is tons of material that can be discussed instead of having a low effort post such as this one.
 

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Then just go hire a bunch of prostitutes & escorts since you would rather key board jockey on the internet then put in bare minimum effort to make yourself socially available and attractive to women. My advice is not for guys that want instant cheat code sex, that’s what pay to play is for.
Bold for you to assume I need that. This is how I know your advice is worthless - instead of arguing its benefits, you resort to insults and assumptions, which only shows you’re more focused on defending a shallow method than providing real value or substance. Seems like someone woke up ready to throw out nonsense instead of offering real insight.
 

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Once you have gotten into a secure position, you will be given so many warm scenarios to approach & talk to hotter younger women
Lot of people here who don’t know what they’re talking about. I currently work at two restaurants that employ a lot of students from the university here. I’m only going to disagree with you on the dishwasher. Way too degrading of a position for the hot girls to view you with any sort of respect. They’re treated as second class citizens here. Now if you’re an extrovert, I would say you can work any position on your list and get with the hot girls that work there. Server, bartender, manager or cook. If you’re an introvert, your best route is to become head chef. If the head chef of where I work at wasn’t gay, he could have any girl he wants. I’ve been with a couple girls (hostess (who will typically be your best option if your after a quality girl (doesn’t drink or party like the other girls (servers/bartenders), servers and bartenders) already here and the previous restaurants I’ve worked at, but I can see myself getting more of them if I were the head chef. That is viewed with high regards amongst all staff. That’s something the OP failed to touch on, if you want the sleep with a lot of hot girls. The status aspect amongst the immediate environment. Why the head chef will have the hostess creaming her pants for him while run away from the dishwasher for just saying hi to her.
 

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Bold for you to assume I need that. This is how I know your advice is worthless - instead of arguing its benefits, you resort to insults and assumptions, which only shows you’re more focused on defending a shallow method than providing real value or substance. Seems like someone woke up ready to throw out nonsense instead of offering real insight.
There’s no competition for pay to play.
 

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Lot of people here who don’t know what they’re talking about. I currently work at two restaurants that employ a lot of students from the university here. I’m only going to disagree with you on the dishwasher.
Y’all are overthinking the dishwasher job way too much. The main point of this is to get you in warmer environments where you can meet women. If you can be a chef, server, or bartender at these restaurants, then go for it. But if all you can do is be a dishwasher, that’s still good enough.

If you can be an unemployed guy living in your mom’s basement and still get pvssy, then you can be a fricking dishwasher and still get pvssy. I’m done discussing this because at this point, yall are just making excuses.
 

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yes, you can get laid as a dishwasher or if you are unemployed living in your moms basement - IF she thinks you are hot. But people have always known that?
 

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There’s no competition for pay to play.
If your method was truly effective and fast as you indicate, you’d have concrete results, not just theory based on assumptions and minimal effort especially when pay-to-play guarantees results with no uncertainty.
 

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I’m just talking about the people who’ve I’ve known work as dishwashers. None of them would ever get any play with the hot girls that worked there. What works in your head, isn’t how it is in real life. That’s keyboard jockeying
 
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