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jhonny9546

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It is clear that, with your gaming experience, you have reached the top. I try to learn new things every day, and the journey never ends.

Usually, there are two situations when interacting with women, and I can never understand which one is the right approach. Perhaps this is something you have experienced as well.

You know, when you are talking to a woman, I have identified two distinct patterns:

1) the conversation flows naturally. You laugh genuinely and feel involved; things happen automatically. For example, if she is doing something, you lend a hand without her asking, and vice versa. It feels like you’re engaging with a close friend (male). There’s no friction, and sexual tension could still arise. The mood is almost always positive and filled with smiles.

2) the interaction feels more distant and formal—almost as if saying "I don't like you." Tasks done together become challenging, leading to misunderstandings such as "I would have done it this way" or "No, it was better this way." There’s a lack of understanding, yet sexual tension could still arise.

I’ve always wondered which of these two approaches is the right one to determine if someone is suitable for us, long term. Version 1 certainly sounds more appealing, but "nice guy" version.
 

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Could be that he had several accounts dormant, of course, but I don't feel like detective work. As it is, most people's stories and field reports and whatever are rarely congruent and either embellished or outright fantasies.

I never take anything anybody says at face value - people rarely say what they mean, so I make it a challenge to myself to try and figure out their motivation.

That's also how I can work with the PTSD women I counsel - I don't judge true or false, I merely look for congruency. Most people cannot deceive very well and they reveal themselves in their incongruities.

This is also an important skill to master for men who complain about women 'sh!t-testing' them. What women do is basically the same thing I do, testing for congruency. And the more your behaviour and action and speech and expression are congruent, the less you will be tested.
 

AmsterdamAssassin

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I’ve always wondered which of these two approaches is the right one to determine if someone is suitable for us, long term. Version 1 certainly sounds more appealing, but "nice guy" version.
You should ask @darksprezzatura directly through PM, but you've been asking these questions from everybody already.

There is no 'right approach' only an 'appropriate approach', since 'women' are never the same. Something that works with one woman doesn't necessarily work with another woman.

However, women who are attracted to you will not be abrasive or challenging or argumentative; they will be more likely to make it easy on you. So whenever a woman is making it easy on you, you can be confident you're using the right approach for that woman.

You still won't be able to determine if that approach will also work on another woman. You'll have to try and be able to adjust your approach to make the interaction smooth and successful. That's the challenge, but also the fun part of seduction.
 

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You have come a long way and are having experiences many can only dream of. Awesome. But you still have to brush your teeth, work out, and other things that only you can do. Sure its nice to be spoiled. It will also make you selfish and lazy if you are not paying attention.

Part of your success derives from the fact that you adore women. Many men here hold women in contempt, harbor a dislike or hatred for them because they cannot manipulate successfully due to creepy woman hater vibes. You have the opposite issue. You love women and women adore you for that. I have the same thing where men are concerned. Love men. Men feel that in the way I interact and get very attracted. It is a type of magnetism and it will help you immensely.....

Cheers
Quick sidenote: I have had a lot of success with women but mostly abroad. I do not enjoy American women for the most part even though I've tried many times but there seems to be no spark. I think part of that is because I've developed mild disdain for most American women over time and I feel like they can sense that. However, when I take molly and go out in the US, women all of a sudden LOVE me, it's insane the difference in my game. It's like I have total control. I have this effect naturally when abroad... Just interesting sidenote... Its very difficult to switch on the "woman adoration mode" for me these days in the US unfortunately...
 

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Hi DarkSprezzatura,
For those too lazy to Google it:"Sprezzatura is an Italian word that describes the art of making something difficult look easy, or appearing to perform complex tasks without effort".To acquire a new word is to gain a new concept,this grows your intellect....I am both astonished and amazed at your achievements take a bow!
 

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Could be that he had several accounts dormant, of course, but I don't feel like detective work. As it is, most people's stories and field reports and whatever are rarely congruent and either embellished or outright fantasies.

I never take anything anybody says at face value - people rarely say what they mean, so I make it a challenge to myself to try and figure out their motivation.

That's also how I can work with the PTSD women I counsel - I don't judge true or false, I merely look for congruency. Most people cannot deceive very well and they reveal themselves in their incongruities.

This is also an important skill to master for men who complain about women 'sh!t-testing' them. What women do is basically the same thing I do, testing for congruency. And the more your behaviour and action and speech and expression are congruent, the less you will be tested.

:rolleyes::zip:
 
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I am in the top 1% of the country’s workforce. I spent the last decade with studying what I do.
I’d say I’m above average in terms of looks.
I don’t work around women at all.

I do play the numbers game. It’s possible that I’ve approached over a hundred women last month itself. A paltry 20% success rate is nothing, means 4 out of 5 women rejected me, didn’t meet me, left me on read or friendzoned me. It has happened, I won’t lie. Yet 20% of a 100 is still 20 women who liked me enough to sleep w me.
Can you elaborate? I'm not understanding how this works.

You say you're in the top 1% of your country's workforce and vastly supersede all these women you meet when it comes to finances, yet you're somehow in ruin.

Furthermore, you say you're busy and that your work doesn't put you around women, but have the time to meet, approach, and sleep with dozens of women in a month, after meeting hundreds. I don't even SEE 20 women I want to sleep with in a month. Beyond that, it sounds like you're having threesomes with these women as they offer their friends up too.

I read the reply that you're 6'2", jacked with tattoos, extremely good-looking, and a musician, so maybe you have the rockstar persona going for you. Otherwise, I do not understand these women being content with multiple different women you're sleeping with being present at your place with them at the same time.

Are you able to share how old you are, how much you make, or how many women you think you've been with? Maybe that'll put some of this into perspective because I don't see how anybody would have the time.
 

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There is no 'right approach' only an 'appropriate approach', since 'women' are never the same. Something that works with one woman doesn't necessarily work with another woman.
Maybe I explained it poorly, but I wasn't talking about an appropriate approach; I was referring to the ideal feeling you should have with a person who claims to be a great partner for you in the long term. Many relationships consist of united individuals, but I don’t see them collaborating with each other. Even when they do, they often blame one another or frequently get angry and argue. It’s more about "living together" than just an "approach."
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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considering a lot of people think that I lie about my sex life, seeing as I live with my parents
No I believe you because I lived like that for years before deciding to get my sh1t together and moving out to live on my own (your sex life will get a lot better. Trust me). As an honest person yourself, you can't comprehend why someone would go to such lengths to fabricate made up fairy tales for male readers online. I've just been around long enough to notice the red flags that it's just laughable to me.

Still, I understand that not everyone has been around long enough as me (read: naive), and can't discern fact from fiction, so it does me a disservice to not call it out when I see it.
 
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