How can men survive in this world

[CornbreadFed]

With this upcoming election, it is not looking great for men NGL. A lot of things have been tried and ended up in complete failure. Women are clearly taking and holding power and turning masculinity into a sin? Some things I think might help. Y'all are going to hate this, but I think the thirst for sex is what is self-harming men the most and causing us to be weaker than women. Women are really good at suppressing their urges for very few men or just abstaining from relationships all together while men crumble at the whiff of pvssy within a second. This can affect their careers, financials, political decisions, and etc. Last, you can still date and not act like a Beta-Simp male sexually starved horn dog at the same too. Gen Z has started this movement, but it might have been too late because women pretty much dominate the political & job market landscape right now.

 

[SW15]

More traditional masculinity, less porn, and less simping.

 

[BaronOfHair]

With this upcoming election, it is not looking great for men NGL.

The Manosphere's greatest legacy has been teaching men to think of everything in identitarian terms ("This policy is bad for men/my people"), rather than asking "What's most beneficial not just to my own gender, but America overall?"

Same way Feminism persuaded women to think in terms of "Will (insert candidate)be good for women?", rather than "Will (insert candidate)be good for America?"

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Women are always going to need the D.
One thing I’ve noticed with ‘women’s empowerment’ is that women seem less nervous when shooting their shot nowadays. Which is good. Makes things less awkward.

 

[The Duke]

Any time one lets emotions(sexual urges) guide his decision making he will eventually have problems.

What we have now is a damn free-for-all. It's almost chaos. There are no rules, little shaming, basically anything goes for men, women, and those who aren't sure what they are. The more this scenario plays out, the more beta-like males(which have always been a part of society) don't stand a chance. We need structure(family units & religion & church marriage) for the beta males to have a shot. Society deemed that stuff pointless awhile back.

You have women making more money now so they are even less dependent on a man which even hurts the beta males chances.

The "beta simp male" that Cornbread mentioned isn't going to fix the problem by controlling his urges. He's barely in contention to score pu$$y which makes what he does irrelevant.

Don't believe me? Look at nations that live in chaos like Mexico, Venezuela, & the Middle East. Power is not distributed evenly. These crazy fuhkers are always bombing and killing each other. Only a few at the top are living prosperous lives(pu$$y & money). You put structure in place(church & state & family), distribute the wealth evenly, and you give the common man a shot at some pu$$y and money.

The rich men in control of these chaotic nations remind me of the guys that score the most pu$$y. I was one of them. I tried to fuhk everything I got close to and got really good at it. Rarely did I go with out sex. There was a period where I went thru women every 6-12weeks. I ignored a lot of red flags so I could seduce and fuhk a girl. My only requirements were she had to be hot & fun. We often say that 30% of the men are fuhking the majority of the women so don't you think its the top 30% guys that are where the problem/solution lies?

 

[BaronOfHair]

The rich men in control of these chaotic nations....

 

[zekko]

More traditional masculinity, less porn, and less simping.

Agree with that. Men need to push back on feminism more, and insist on being true to themselves, and what they are meant to be. Too many have chosen to "ally" themselves with them.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Agree with that. Men need to push back on feminism more, and insist on being true to themselves, and what they are meant to be. Too many have chosen to "ally" themselves with them.

it's hard to turn them down when you are benefiting from it.

 

[corrector]

The "beta simp male" that Cornbread mentioned isn't going to fix the problem by controlling his urges. He's barely in contention to score pu$$y which makes what he does irrelevant.

Exactly. It makes this thread irrelevant too.

 

[zekko]

it's hard to turn them down when you are benefiting from it.

But are you really?

 

[Westminster]

With this upcoming election, it is not looking great for men NGL. A lot of things have been tried and ended up in complete failure. Women are clearly taking and holding power and turning masculinity into a sin? Some things I think might help. Y'all are going to hate this, but I think the thirst for sex is what is self-harming men the most and causing us to be weaker than women. Women are really good at suppressing their urges for very few men or just abstaining from relationships all together while men crumble at the whiff of pvssy within a second. This can affect their careers, financials, political decisions, and etc. Last, you can still date and not act like a Beta-Simp male sexually starved horn dog at the same too. Gen Z has started this movement, but it might have been too late because women pretty much dominate the political & job market landscape right now.

It's a good post and there's no doubt that women are systematically advantaged across the western world. You see it in politics, law, education, and at work. But women also get a free pass for all sorts of behaviours that would see a man cast as a social leper.

Where I differ slightly with you is the bit I've highlighted. Whilst women can abstain from sex far easier than men they still overwhelmingly want relationships. The vast majority of women are relationship hungry and there's almost always a guy in the picture despite all the claims about 'strong, independent women'. It's normally bullshot once you get past the rhetoric. A relationship still gives them social status.

So, for women, sex is often the price of a relationship whereas for men the relationship is the price of sex. So, it's a bit of a conundrum but I'd say this still gives men a degree of power, because you can still be selective about who you get into a relationship with.

In fact, you should be. Highly selective.

 

[Gamisch]

It's a good post and there's no doubt that women are systematically advantaged across the western world. You see it in politics, law, education, and at work. But women also get a free pass for all sorts of behaviours that would see a man cast as a social leper.

Where I differ slightly with you is the bit I've highlighted. Whilst women can abstain from sex far easier than men they still overwhelmingly want relationships. The vast majority of women are relationship hungry and there's almost always a guy in the picture despite all the claims about 'strong, independent women'. It's normally bullshot once you get past the rhetoric. A relationship still gives them social status.

So, for women, sex is often the price of a relationship whereas for men the relationship is the price of sex. So, it's a bit of a conundrum but I'd say this still gives men a degree of power, because you can still be selective about who you get into a relationship with.

In fact, you should be. Highly selective.

True. Literally every type of woman has a bf. No azz 60 lbs has one, and obese 600lbs has one.

Sometimes I wonder where all those men come from , but I hardly ever see a woman not having a bf. Meanwhile most men are on years long dryspells...it doesn't add up.

 

[Westminster]

True. Literally every type of woman has a bf. No azz 60 lbs has one, and obese 600lbs has one.

Sometimes I wonder where all those men come from , but I hardly ever see a woman not having a bf. Meanwhile most men are on years long dryspells...it doesn't add up.

It's true, it doesn't add up! There are roughly equal numbers of males and female so how come there are so many single males and so few women who aren't in a relationship? Seriously question

 

[BaronOfHair]

Women are clearly taking and holding power and turning masculinity into a sin

No one takes power, UNLESS they're granted it by those they vow to serve. Wrong-headed as Feminism is, it's adherents did the gritty, unglamorous work of knocking on doors out in reality, and persuading John and Jane Q public that it was in their own best interest to support their goals

By contrast, most self-identified men's advocates have 0 enthusiasm for taking the field in so direct a fashion. Subsequently, men in America are politically weak

 

[Dr.Suave]

Don't believe me? Look at nations that live in chaos like Mexico, Venezuela, & the Middle East. Power is not distributed evenly. These crazy fuhkers are always bombing and killing each other. Only a few at the top are living prosperous lives(pu$$y & money). You put structure in place(church & state & family), distribute the wealth evenly, and you give the common man a shot at some pu$$y and money.

I guess I agree. The problem with Mexico is that there are no good options to vote for.

Not sure what´s the solution. Get out of Mexico I guess

 

[sevbucmash]

You have women making more money now so they are even less dependent on a man which even hurts the beta males chances

All of it is changing now.

Global south has come together and is circumventing trade in dollar. Which means the end of borrowing for almost free. Women will naturally gravitate towards men from this point on, because it will be harder to survive alone.

What you described, not in this quote, in your entire thread, is something that is prevalent in the west. In other parts of the world things are different, things are 1980s still. Women wait for their men to come back from the front. Government is giving money for children.

So in my opinion the developed paradigm will die off, and pretty quick. Sometime closer to 2030 you are going to see things change.

 

[Manure Spherian]

With this upcoming election, it is not looking great for men NGL. A lot of things have been tried and ended up in complete failure. Women are clearly taking and holding power and turning masculinity into a sin? Some things I think might help. Y'all are going to hate this, but I think the thirst for sex is what is self-harming men the most and causing us to be weaker than women. Women are really good at suppressing their urges for very few men or just abstaining from relationships all together while men crumble at the whiff of pvssy within a second. This can affect their careers, financials, political decisions, and etc. Last, you can still date and not act like a Beta-Simp male sexually starved horn dog at the same too. Gen Z has started this movement, but it might have been too late because women pretty much dominate the political & job market landscape right now.

I'll vote when a candidate mentions anti-male discrimination in school and work, misandry in media, the male suicide rate, other male deaths of despair, mass incarceration, and family court.

I will also not vote because my son and I are not:
1. women
2. immigrants
3. black
4. Ukrainian
5. Israeli
6. homosexual
7. welfare recipients.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I will also not vote because my son and I are not:

2. immigrants

You both are among the select handful whom The Almighty created from mud on the banks of The Mississippi, and who thus can honestly call yourselves "natives", rather than the spawn of immigrants

You all are more fortunate than Issei Sagawa here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa , who got to not only carry out the acts Armie Hammer merely fantasized about, but also saw his celebrity INCREASE afterwards

 

[Manure Spherian]

You both are among the select handful whom The Almighty created from mud on the banks of The Mississippi, and who thus can honestly call yourselves "natives", rather than the spawn of immigrants

You all are more fortunate than Issei Sagawa here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa , who got to not only carry out the acts Armie Hammer merely fantasized about, but also saw his celebrity INCREASE afterwards

I’ll ask again. Do you talk like this to men offline? What drives your compulsive sarcasm and zingering? Is it a coping or defense mechanism? I challenge you to respond zinger free.

My mom and almost her whole family are immigrants. My son and I are not.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Do you talk like this to men offline?

The written voice and spoken voice are very different, so it's with a heavy heart that I report: I'm not nearly as hilarious in person as I am in print, whenever I encounter folks who cling to transparently imbecilic ideas

My mom and almost her whole family are immigrants. My son and I are not.

You're the equivalent of the typical Paddy from South Boston, or Ginzo from Brooklyn then, who rejoices in perpetrating the same hysteria over immigration your ancestors were subjected to