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I hooked up with a 21 year old from group fitness class when I was 41. She wasn't hot, but cute girl next door looks with large blue eyes.

We went out 4x and I only got to 2nd base. I made a big deal about the age difference and ruined it.

I care too much about what society thinks and don't like breaking rules (half your age plus 7) and have a hard time taking one day at a time.

When I asked her why she couldn't at least be 28, she said "Just pretend that I am".
 

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I’m 56 (turning 57 this year) and currently seeing both a 48 and a 47 year old (both Asian, both still have kids living at home). They are both around a 7/10 looks and weight wise. I think I will be lucky to achieve that younger in future. I look ok for my age, still have hair, slim, go to the gym but not jacked, financially secure. I reckon I’m about a 7/10, definitely not higher.
The majority of women near my age (OLD which is my preferred method) are terrible looks and weight wise with very few exceptions. Kids of various ages still living at home with them are also commonly part of the deal. I’m dreading the options I will be faced with on OLD when my current situations both end (which they will eventually, they both want more commitment than I’m willing to give them).
 

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The majority of women near my age (OLD which is my preferred method) are terrible looks and weight wise with very few exceptions. Kids of various ages still living at home with them are also commonly part of the deal. I’m dreading the options I will be faced with on OLD when my current situations both end (which they will eventually, they both want more commitment than I’m willing to give them).
The women 45-55 with children under 18 still living at home are a bad deal for obvious reasons that I don't need to explain.

The 45-55 age range is when women start to have their children become legal adults. A lot of 45-55 year old women have children 18-25 who aren't fully independent. Many of their 18-25 year old adult children still live at home and/or are very dependent upon their parent(s).

In the USA, this is a long term trend dating back to the 2000s when 1980s born Millennials graduated into weak economies.
 

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I'm 63, and I was thinking the other day that if I were to look for a girl in my age group, I would have no idea who they are. I mean I know the rough age of people/women I know. But to see a stranger and guess her age, I'm not too good at that. In my mind I'm still like 24 lol - it can be a bit of a shock looking in the mirror since in my head my hair is still all dark. It's like the old saying about you go to your high school reunion and you think "Why are all these old people here?".

Let's see, half your age plus seven is what they say, so I guess I could date 39 year olds? I'm sure I could, but would they date me? :lol:
 

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I'm 63, and I was thinking the other day that if I were to look for a girl in my age group, I would have no idea who they are. I mean I know the rough age of people/women I know. But to see a stranger and guess her age, I'm not too good at that. In my mind I'm still like 24 lol
You likely wouldn't be too excited to date 55-63 year olds.

Let's see, half your age plus seven is what they say, so I guess I could date 39 year olds? I'm sure I could, but would they date me? :lol:
If you have enough money, you could date a 39 year old. Would you want to date the typical 39 year old? The typical 39 year old woman in 2024 is an older Millennial. She has a greater chance of being childless than when early Gen X'ers were 39 in the late 2000s, but most 39 year old Millennial women will have children. A 39 year old woman now likely had children later in life as that's been the trend in more recent decades so her children are likely still in elementary school. I can't imagine that a 63 year old man would want to deal with a 39 year old woman with 2 children in elementary school and many years away from independent adulthood.

You might be interested in a 39 year old with no children who doesn't want children. In the Millennial generation, there are some of those women.
 

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I'm sure I could, but would they date me?
that's always the main issue! lol

Threads like this just tell people what we want in an ideal world. Doesn't mean anyone can actually get it! I know on forums like this we all like to pretend it's a non issue and we can all get who we want, but it's just largely online fantasy lol. At least you're the first person to say it though haha ('but would they date me!?')

Like my 'ideal' age range as i've said is about 16-20. I just find them at peak attractivness at that age. (and it's legal here btw before someone shoots me down lol)
And I've had my fair share of success with this age range and even banged a very cute 17 year old not too long ago who was like half my age.

However, I still get rejected by these girls a HUGE percentage of the time. It's just a numbers game. And I accept that lol. If I targeted older women I could be getting laid a LOT more but i'm not interested. Even now i'm getting DM'd by some woman in her late 30's who I met a while ago and she's desperate to bang me and i'm literally basically ignoring her messages. I can't be bothered to bang her. (whereas i'd cut my thumb off to bang certain crazy hot 18 year olds I see like the girl who served me at the supermarket earlier!)

'celebrity' aside (obviously Leo with his fame and good looks and billions of dollars could easily pull 17-18 year old stunners basically until he's dead!) this is the way it is for everyone. A guy who's like 30+ is gonna have a huge rejection rate when hitting on pretty 16-18 year old girls. Men that age are largely invisible to girls that age. (I remember tylerRSD having SOME success with very young girls in his earlier RSD infields. Then RSD kinda moved away from Pickup. years passed, But then he briefly brough it back for his 'tour' and filmed some infields again, and what I noticed was that now, with the passing years and him looking much older, the young girls were literally ignoring him. He was now only able to get the slightly older girls.)

They want some tiktok looking floppy haired, tall ,pretty boy who is about the same age as her on the whole. If that's not you then having 'game' or a 'strong frame' (lol) isn't gonna cut any ice! It's peak superficiality in young girls.
 
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'celebrity' aside (obviously Leo with his fame and good looks and billions of dollars could easily pull 17-18 year old stunners basically until he's dead!) this is the way it is for everyone. A guy who's like 30+ is gonna have a huge rejection rate when hitting on pretty 16-18 year old girls.
Do you think the Leo's of the world don't have a huge rejection rate? Do you really think a majority of 18-20yrs old girls are willing to hore themselves to out of shape guys pushing 50yrs old? Leo is targeting a pre selected market of girls of dubious moral quality (models, actresses) and even there I'm sure he still gets rejected a lot.
 

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You likely wouldn't be too excited to date 55-63 year olds.
Most of them, no. I know a few in that age range that are attractive. But, as is the case with most attractive women, they are either taken, head cases, or just not my type.

If you have enough money, you could date a 39 year old. Would you want to date the typical 39 year old? The typical 39 year old woman in 2024 is an older Millennial.
Well, I'm convinced the whole world is falling apart. But all this is just hypothetical, I have a girlfriend I wouldn't cheat on, she is 38 and we have 20 years together. But I've lost relationships before, so I always try to keep my mind open for potential options.

Then RSD kinda moved away from Pickup. years passed, But then he briefly brough it back for his 'tour' and filmed some infields again, and what I noticed was that now, with the passing years and him looking much older, the young girls were literally ignoring him. He was now only able to get the slightly older girls.)
Not surprising. Is RSD still around in some form or other? The last I heard Tyler was going to move more to the self help genre.
 

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Not surprising. Is RSD still around in some form or other? The last I heard Tyler was going to move more to the self help genre.
I don't keep a close eye on them anymore. (or any PUA content really. I used to be very much into it and had just about every single course and book known to man!). Kind of turned my back on all of the theory when I finally cemented the idea that I was right all along and 'game' really is only the icing on the cake. A TINY part of the puzzle. SO far from the magic it's sold as that it's not even funny lol)

But I think that from memory, they made the 'self help' switch about 5-6 years ago when the RSD nation forums and stuff just shut down over night and they all deleted most of their PUA content etc. He done that for a few years and then, I guess due to high demand and easy money and stuff, he brought back some PUA content (such as the US tour I mentioned where he had some new infields from each state, which is where it became obvious to me that the really young ones were now impposible for him, despite him saying his 'game' had never been better etc)

And from what I gather now, it's still lots of 'self help' courses and 'life coaching' etc, but i'm told they still very much do the PUA coaching and stuff but it just seems to be less well marketed now and it's the self help stuff which is pushed more (publicly)
 

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And from what I gather now, it's still lots of 'self help' courses and 'life coaching' etc, but i'm told they still very much do the PUA coaching and stuff but it just seems to be less well marketed now and it's the self help stuff which is pushed more (publicly)
Do they still have a website? I've been looking for it, but can't seem to find it. Are they under a different name now?

Well done. Now that's what I call an achievement.
Well, she gets half credit :)
 

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Do they still have a website? I've been looking for it, but can't seem to find it. Are they under a different name now?


Well, she gets half credit :)
I don't think RSD is even a thing anymore?
He seems to have a few websites though, like 'blueprintrloaded' I think. And a few other self helpy type ones. I'm not sure what the business model is now and how it links them all (for example julien has his own sites and stuff but still seems to be a 'partner' of owen/tyler).

pretty sure he makes a lot of money though! can't faut him there! sells out so many live coaching and courses stuff for like 5k per person. He is extremely rich. I'M pretty sure of that
 

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I have a girlfriend I wouldn't cheat on, she is 38 and we have 20 years together. But I've lost relationships before, so I always try to keep my mind open for potential options.
You are better off than most men being 63 with a long term 38 year old girlfriend.

Lots of late 30s/early 40s men desire starting a relationships with an 18-24 year old. In your early 40s, you started something with an 18 year old.

While the typical interaction between a late 30s/early 40s man and an 18-24 year old woman is fleeting at best (typically not more than 2-3 years), you did get a longer term out of one.

as is the case with most attractive women, they are either taken, head cases, or just not my type.
While you made this statement in reference to women over 50, this is true for women 18-49 too.
 

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Lots of late 30s/early 40s men desire starting a relationships with an 18-24 year old. In your early 40s, you started something with an 18 year old.
Sorry, I misspoke. She's 48 now. The old brain gets fuzzy as you get older lol. I was 42 and she was 27.

pretty sure he makes a lot of money though! can't faut him there! sells out so many live coaching and courses stuff for like 5k per person. He is extremely rich. I'M pretty sure of that
Well, he's a D list celebrity of sorts. If you have a name, usually there's a way to make money off of it.
 
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