Rankings of Every Way You Can Meet a Woman According to a YouTube Channel

[Hamurabimbi]

Very good explanation.

There is a difference between having friends and having a social circle capable of creating introductions.

Men who are "players" do have friends, usually other male friends. Some male friends of a male "player" might have girlfriends/wives who could provide introductions. In many cases, they won't based upon his behavior. As a result, the male "player" goes on with his lifestyle using some combination of bar approaching, non-bar approaching, or tech-based methods.

Promiscuous females often have female friends too. Promiscuous females tend to be friends with other promiscuous females. They'll meet men through real life activities.

My experience with SC is that they want what they want. They’re fine with a ‘Pass Around Patrick’. They want good D & don’t care if another girl in the SC has ridden it before.

 

[MatureDJ]

For men with social circles, the problem with the social circle method eventually becomes sustainability as social circles get pissed at men who continually exchange girlfriends, even if the relationships are semi-long (1-4 years).

LOL, this reminds me of when I was 14 and the chicks in my social circle were 12. Our "relationships" were like 1-4 weeks, but since 12 year old lads were not considered dateable, the numbers were in our favor.

 

[MatureDJ]

... there a smaller number of social circles that condone promiscuous activities- swing groups, poly groups, small town threatre groups, etc.. join those for more sexual options. however, most of those groups do require you to "share"...

What if you have nothing to share? If I had something to share, I wouldn't need to go through all this BS.

 

[Slowhandluke]

What if you have nothing to share? If I had something to share, I wouldn't need to go through all this BS.

if you have nothing, make your own circle. it's hard because you have to provide value (loyalty, wisdom, trust, safe space, etc.. etc) in order for other people to join. once done, you can let scrubs in (people who doesn't add anything to your circle). however, but by that time, I'm sure, you wouldn't allow them to enter.

 

[Slowhandluke]

I was once tagged the "player" of a social circle. It was not explicit, but the members knew I slept around with various women and did not commit. Being deemed as dangerous, I was ousted on rumors that were lies. But that was the point, to get rid of me silently. Soon enough, I was not invited to their events anymore. It happens and is a lesson learned. People can be shallow.

did you hurt any of these girls feelings? most likely you did.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

men in general do not like it when other men pump and dump their sisters or their female friends.

women in general do not like it when other women use/abuse/manipulate their brothers or their male friends.

social circle tries to protect their members. however, there a smaller number of social circles that condone promiscuous activities- swing groups, poly groups, small town threatre groups, etc.. join those for more sexual options. however, most of those groups do require you to "share"... I'm not really into that.

Our SC was a gaming group. RPG’s. CCG’s etc. Nothing kinky or sexy. But. I dated 3 girls in the group.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Our SC was a gaming group. RPG’s. CCG’s etc. Nothing kinky or sexy. But. I dated 3 girls in the group.

if nobody got hurt, you are good. if people got hurt, people gonna be kicked out of the SC. social circle is there to protect its members

 

[HaleyBaron]

did you hurt any of these girls feelings? most likely you did.

I wouldn't know. Unless I turned down one of them without knowledge. I wasn't trying to **** any of them even though I could have.

 

[SW15]

this reminds me of when I was 14 and the chicks in my social circle were 12. Our "relationships" were like 1-4 weeks, but since 12 year old lads were not considered dateable, the numbers were in our favor.

I don't understand this story at all.

If you had stayed in that social circle for 10+ years into your 20s AND offered some other features, it might have been fruitful. A lot of men are able to have platonic female contacts from their K-12 years that can provide introductions and the inside track to single women as adults. There's a benefit in retain pre-puberty female contacts and keeping a network. This is why geographical static men often get into LTRs with more beta characteristics. Social circle game is a very efficient play for LTRs. A lot of very average guys who would struggle in the general daygame/general nightgame methods for meeting women get into longer term relationships with women from social circle introductions. Women have a higher threshold for acceptability with outsider contacts (daygame/nightgame stranger approaches, swipe apps, and social media DMs) than they do for insider contacts from social circles.

 

[Smok1nAce]

I mostly agree with the list.

Traditional ways of meeting women are ranked so low because your investing to much time just to meet women with little reward in the activity for yourself.

I just can’t agree with a strip club being a better option then a club. I would put things like escorting as bottom of the barrel double F tier. If anything it hurts you game.

 

[eli77]

Seems pretty accurate to me in either situation an average guy could be above average with a simple workout plan haircut and new wardrobe!

 

[SW15]

Traditional ways of meeting women are ranked so low because your investing to much time just to meet women with little reward in the activity for yourself.

Most of the traditional ways (social circle exempted) were rated C Tier to F Tier. That's typical daygame (D tier -- grocery store, mall, outdoors, etc), nightlife venues (C tier), fitness/cooking classes (F Tier -- as a special subcategory of daygame). With an F tier fitness class, you are going to get something out of it (a decent workout), but that's likely it as women aren't very sociable before/after fitness classes even with the favorable ratios for men at those.

 

[MatureDJ]

I don't understand this story at all.

If you had stayed in that social circle for 10+ years into your 20s AND offered some other features, it might have been fruitful. A lot of men are able to have platonic female contacts from their K-12 years that can provide introductions and the inside track to single women as adults. There's a benefit in retain pre-puberty female contacts and keeping a network. This is why geographical static men often get into LTRs with more beta characteristics. Social circle game is a very efficient play for LTRs. A lot of very average guys who would struggle in the general daygame/general nightgame methods for meeting women get into longer term relationships with women from social circle introductions. Women have a higher threshold for acceptability with outsider contacts (daygame/nightgame stranger approaches, swipe apps, and social media DMs) than they do for insider contacts from social circles.

Oh, so my 14 year-old self should have known to become a Beta Orbiter to these chicks so that there would be payoff many years later in the form of SocialCircleMaxxing? In any case, that was when I was at my all-boys high school.

 

[MatureDJ]

Seems pretty accurate to me in either situation an average guy could be above average with a simple workout plan haircut and new wardrobe!

What about getting mogged at the gym?

https://incels.wiki/images/1/17/Mogging.gif

 

[SW15]

Oh, so my 14 year-old self should have known to become a Beta Orbiter to these chicks so that there would be payoff many years later in the form of SocialCircleMaxxing?

There are a lot of normie range guys who are personable and stay in contact with females they met somewhere in the K-12 years. If both happen to live in the same area as adults, this is often how social circle introductions happen.

In any case, that was when I was at my all-boys high school.

I've expressed opinions on all-boys high schools on other threads. I've known many males who have attended all-boys schools. Their high school experiences varied but the ones who had strong K-8 social circles had the best high school experiences at those schools. It also depends somewhat on the all-girls schools in that area too. There are often once or twice monthly socials with the all-boys and all-girls schools in an area. Striking something up at these isn't typically too easy and it is less easy than the social circle introductions from the K-8 social circle.

I've seen negative longer term effects from all-boys school attendees in the college years and beyond.

 

[eli77]

There are a lot of normie range guys who are personable and stay in contact with females they met somewhere in the K-12 years. If both happen to live in the same area as adults, this is often how social circle introductions happen.



I've expressed opinions on all-boys high schools on other threads. I've known many males who have attended all-boys schools. Their high school experiences varied but the ones who had strong K-8 social circles had the best high school experiences at those schools. It also depends somewhat on the all-girls schools in that area too. There are often once or twice monthly socials with the all-boys and all-girls schools in an area. Striking something up at these isn't typically too easy and it is less easy than the social circle introductions from the K-8 social circle.

I've seen negative longer term effects from all-boys school attendees in the college years and beyond.

For someone who's been there I don't think I could ever send my son or daughter turn all boys on all girls school charter school maybe but never all boys or all girls.

 

[eli77]

There are a lot of normie range guys who are personable and stay in contact with females they met somewhere in the K-12 years. If both happen to live in the same area as adults, this is often how social circle introductions happen.



I've expressed opinions on all-boys high schools on other threads. I've known many males who have attended all-boys schools. Their high school experiences varied but the ones who had strong K-8 social circles had the best high school experiences at those schools. It also depends somewhat on the all-girls schools in that area too. There are often once or twice monthly socials with the all-boys and all-girls schools in an area. Striking something up at these isn't typically too easy and it is less easy than the social circle introductions from the K-8 social circle.

I've seen negative longer term effects from all-boys school attendees in the college years and beyond.

I agree

 

[Solomon]

I met Casey in Miami back in 2020, very good guy and knows his stuff ( I took the pic with him and Fresh) the guy knows his stuff and has been around for a long time From LA, to Miami and now living part-time in Colombia last I talked to him (2022)

My experience with SC is that they want what they want. They’re fine with a ‘Pass Around Patrick’. They want good D & don’t care if another girl in the SC has ridden it before.

This tends to work if there are a lot of women that get rotated in and out of the circles. In my experience once there are to many couples you either slowly get phased out, or you eventually stop hanging out as you're seen as a player. However there are some circles where the guys cheat on their girlfriends and it's kept on the low. Needless to say I never stuck around those cause you can't trust those types of dudes with your own girl

I was once tagged the "player" of a social circle. It was not explicit, but the members knew I slept around with various women and did not commit. Being deemed as dangerous, I was ousted on rumors that were lies. But that was the point, to get rid of me silently. Soon enough, I was not invited to their events anymore. It happens and is a lesson learned. People can be shallow.

This is why you can't shyt where you eat.

I find the SC that work best for "Players" are ones with a group of similar-minded guys, who are out just jacking for chicks however, dynamics change quickly if one or more of the guys have a girlfriend they are serious about. Either you leave the circle or you eventually get phased out just part of life

All it takes is one scorned woman or one bad hook up and your reputation is ruined. I know one guy who I use to be in a SC with all the girls called him "4 Inch One Shot" cause he didn't last long in bed LMFAO

I mostly agree with the list.

Traditional ways of meeting women are ranked so low because your investing to much time just to meet women with little reward in the activity for yourself.

I just can’t agree with a strip club being a better option then a club. I would put things like escorting as bottom of the barrel double F tier. If anything it hurts you game.

Strip club game works for some, I know a few guys who were able to pull it of but you have to have the aesthetic(or money) that strippers like. Personally, I never tried it nor cared to try

 

[Solomon]

Meeting women is literally just being in proximity to them. You won't meet much women at a fishing meetup. But you will at a fashion show. That is the first prerequisite. After that, if you are really wanting a woman, then I think a person needs to stop and rethink themselves. That kind of desperation leads to bad decisions. A man should be pursuing success and then the woman will come to him regardless of what he is doing. You think women like going out on the seas on a yacht? No, that's a man's activity. Women go there cause a successful man owns them or knows people that do.

BINGO

This is why I laugh at guys who make threads like "Tips for guys in their 40s going to the club"
It sounds cringe to me and I've been called out by guys for calling it loser activity at 40 your taste in venues and lifestyle should change
I haven't been in a club in over 2 years I turn 40 next month. Once you improve and focus on your purpose, especially your mental, physical, financial well being you going to meet different women in different venues yes you can still utilize the club etc. But all I'm saying is more options will be open to you. I prefer to meet women at fashion events or boat parties the ratio tends to favor men (2:1 someitmes even 3:1) and the women tend to be better quality overall not just in looks but also in behavior. Truly once you get your stuff togther as a man you will meet better women. I remember being broke in my 20s doing the club scene I use to write a lot of FR's here, most of the women were not wifey material. Things change when you level up

When I think about these possible methods for meeting women, I think about the end outcomes. I believe that a person is who is well adjusted, mentally healthy, and with no personality defects would struggle with using C tier to F tier activities for arranging dates. Too much exposure to these C to F tier activities (day game, night game, swipe apps as a normie range guy) might actually cause some psychological damage.

Being good looking will help with C to F tier activities and might reduce the quantity of rejections.

There's a crucial balance of inner game and outer game here.

I work 12 hours a day sometimes more I run my own business I don't have time these days to do night or day game I'm way to tired. There comes a point where you should focus on your lifestyle. I'll give you a simple trick or example(s).

A buddy of mine moved to one of the most premier apartment complexes in my town (Rent is 3K a month for one bedroom with a nice view) he started meeting more women than he could keep up with, why? cause now he's in proximity of women, and on top of that the apartment complex he lives at is very active with bbqs, potlucks, pool parties etc. To a lot of guys this is not the case. Most of us don't even know our neighbors but by putting yourself in proximity to women, it can change your social life.

As @SW15 mentioned I use to be a photographer and it was work however I also dated some models here and there but I would say never mix business with pleasure I learned that lesson the hard way lol

 

[SW15]

A buddy of mine moved to one of the most premier apartment complexes in my town (Rent is 3K a month for one bedroom with a nice view) he started meeting more women than he could keep up with, why? cause now he's in proximity of women, and on top of that the apartment complex he lives at is very active with bbqs, potlucks, pool parties etc. To a lot of guys this is not the case. Most of us don't even know our neighbors but by putting yourself in proximity to women, it can change your social life.

I like the apartment complex case study that you mention.

A lot of men try to use direct game in their apartment complexes and cause a mess by pooping in their own backyards. It's generally not advisable to date within your own apartment complex.

In larger apartment communities (I would call that 200+ units), you might be able to justify dating someone in the complex under one of 2 scenarios.

• If you are in a mid-rise or high rise building (4+ stories), the woman lives on a different floor as you do, and you're not likely to ever go to that floor. It's still possible you might run into her in common areas, but some men are comfortable with that risk level, especially if you're only seeing her 1-2 times a month at best.
• If you are in a complex of garden style buildings (multiple 1-3 story buildings), the woman lives a few buildings away and you're not likely to see her walking to/from your car. Like the last scenario, it's still possible to see her in common areas but the risk is mitigated if her building is not close to yours.

In the case of your friend, he's likely meeting women who live in the same complex and then dating their friends who don't live in that complex. That's what's happening at the barbecues, non-commercialized pool parties, and potlucks. That's social circle game, which I consider to be an A Tier form of game.

I use to be a photographer and it was work however I also dated some models here and there but I would say never mix business with pleasure I learned that lesson the hard way lol

That's why being friends with a photographer is the better play than actually being the photographer yourself. A similar idea exists with bartender, bouncers, and club promoters. One guy even mentioned paying club promoters for introductions as an elite form of game.

Bouncers routinely date strippers and barmaids. That's mixing business and pleasure. Not sure if they regret it. Bartenders date each other. Gym fitness trainers are well known for dating each other too.

This is why I laugh at guys who make threads like "Tips for guys in their 40s going to the club"
It sounds cringe to me and I've been called out by guys for calling it loser activity at 40 your taste in venues and lifestyle should change
I haven't been in a club in over 2 years I turn 40 next month. Once you improve and focus on your purpose, especially your mental, physical, financial well being you going to meet different women in different venues yes you can still utilize the club etc. But all I'm saying is more options will be open to you. I prefer to meet women at fashion events or boat parties the ratio tends to favor men (2:1 someitmes even 3:1) and the women tend to be better quality overall not just in looks but also in behavior. Truly once you get your stuff togther as a man you will meet better women.

The fashion events, art events, boat parties where you tend to meet women are classified as private parties, which are classified an A tier for game. General nightlife is classified as C tier. Your findings tend to support the initial conclusion of the YouTube content creators in the first post.