Don't feel rejected by rejections.

[characternote]

rejection is almost never something that is in your control. In a 'groundhog day' situation where you relive the same situation and try to 'learn from the failure' and amend the approach, you'd basically get the same result. You're just not her 'type'/she's not sexually attracted to you. It's a number game

get thicker skin, hit the gym, and keep approaching hot girls

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

While OP is right in the fact that rejection may help a man to better calibrate his actions, in some cases too many rejections especially on young guys if not interrupted from some success here and there could push such guy to drop it all together which is what happening with the average man nowadays.

Basically, what you're saying that young guys who suffer 'too many' rejections don't take lessons from the experience, but just throw in the towel. Taking themselves out of the dating process. Isn't there another thread about that phenomenon? About how 63% of men don't date anymore?

My advice is for those who are not that prone to quit just because something became hard.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

rejection is almost never something that is in your control. In a 'groundhog day' situation where you relive the same situation and try to 'learn from the failure' and amend the approach, you'd basically get the same result. You're just not her 'type'. It's a number game

When I grew up, they would tell you, that if you don't learn from your mistakes, you're bound to repeat them.

And again, if you're repeatedly hear that you're 'not her type', then you are not reading their signals well and consistently approaching women whose signals you are unable to read.

It's not a numbers game. That shotgun type of approach is rarely successful, unless you're sweeping the bars around closing time to pick up the drunken stragglers.

Ask the experienced men here how often they get rejected and you'll quickly realise that rejection is most definitely under your control. You can seriously minimise the frequency of rejection by socially calibrating yourself through learning from your mistakes.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Basically, what you're saying that young guys who suffer 'too many' rejections don't take lessons from the experience, but just throw in the towel. Taking themselves out of the dating process. Isn't there another thread about that phenomenon? About how 63% of men don't date anymore?

My advice is for those who are not that prone to quit just because something became hard.

There is no lesson to be taken if you try something 100 times and you fail all of them except that you should try something else.

Regarding that %, I believe that if its so high it means that something is broken on the dating scene.

If two guys fail their class its probably cause they are dumb but if more than half of the students fail a class..there is probably something wrong with the teaching.

Dont get me wrong there is no one here that more then me believes in finding the mistake and fix it to reach a goal, actually I'm doing the extra step and believe that if you find the mistake but cant correct it for reasons outside your control, it's more than fair game to use any action wheter licit or not to deal with that.

I have no contempt at all for those young guy that cant make it despite their best will cause the system is rigged so they decide to sell drugs.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

That brings the problem to a whole new level where basically even guys not attempting an approach risk to get doxxed and ridiculed online cause they made the mistake of taking more that a couple of seconds to look in a certain direction.

Peculiar brand of paranoia.
You don't make sense. Can you give me an example of someone getting ridiculed online for looking a couple of seconds at a woman?
Or do you perhaps mean they're staring at a woman as if they see breasts for the first time?

 

[characternote]

we're probably talking about 2 different things

You've brought 'reading signals' into the equation and I agree. Waiting for IOI's before appraoching will drastically decrease your rejection rate. I'd say my appraoch to lay rate is as good as anyone elses here IF i'm approaching girls giving me IOI's

But if we're talking about just hitting on a girl simply because she's gorgeous, then at that point, if you're not her type (she's not attracted to you) then that's it. Hence 'numbers game'. Adapt your approach all you want. Same result.

Ask the experienced men here how often they get rejected and you'll quickly realise that rejection is most definitely under your control

RazorRambo told me he could literally bang ANY girl he wanted haha. I take everything with a huge pinch of salt on here (with the exception of about 3 posters who i'm in regular contact with)

None of the supposed womanisers on here would have a hope in hell of banging the sort of girls i'm after tbh. (unless paying for it. The attraction on her part would simply not be there)

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Peculiar brand of paranoia.
You don't make sense. Can you give me an example of someone getting ridiculed online for looking a couple of seconds at a woman?
Or do you perhaps mean they're staring at a woman as if they see breasts for the first time?

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Thats just the last...maybe try to live in the current world instead of portraying a gimmick?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Dont get me wrong there is no one here that more then me believes in finding the mistake and fix it to reach a goal, actually I'm doing the extra step and believe that if you find the mistake but cant correct it for reasons outside your control, it's more than fair game to use any action wheter licit or not to deal with that.

Have you heard of the 'locus of control'?
Your comment here sounds like an over-exaggerated external locus of control.
And you use that to legitimise using underhanded methods.
Excuse me if I don't applaud.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Have you heard of the 'locus of control'?
Your comment here sounds like an over-exaggerated external locus of control.
And you use that to legitimise using underhanded methods.
Excuse me if I don't applaud.

Look Im in my late 30s, I'm not interested in taking part on online quarrels.

If you feel the need to run feuds with many users in many threads go ahead but sincerly I'm not interested.

If you wanna talk about facts, events or idea you're welcome.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

But if we're talking about just hitting on a girl simply because she's gorgeous, then at that point, if you're not her type (she's not attracted to you) then that's it. Hence 'numbers game'. Adapt your approach all you want. Same result.

D'uh.
Of course if you approach a woman who is not giving you indications that she's interested, chances on getting rejected are high.
Approach at your own risk, but don't whine about how women always reject you when you approach them without raising her interest.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If you feel the need to run feuds with many users in many threads go ahead but sincerly I'm not interested.

See, that is what I mean with exaggerations. I don't 'run feuds'. You don't want to interact with me? Don't respond. Bye.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

See, that is what I mean with exaggerations. I don't 'run feuds'. You don't want to interact with me? Don't respond. Bye.

I have no problem interacting with you, I dont mind at all as long as we stay on topic.

I would just avoid the nonsense.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Okay, then tell me what you mean by this:

actually I'm doing the extra step and believe that if you find the mistake but cant correct it for reasons outside your control, it's more than fair game to use any action wheter licit or not to deal with that.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Okay, then tell me what you mean by this:

I believe that once we identify a goal, we have to establish a plan that allow us to reach it using the means available to us.

If we realize that the means at our disposal are insufficient or the means that we're allowed to use are ineffective, it's fair game to acquire new means or make use of those that we're not allowed to, given that the goal is really important to us.

Example, think of pro body builders that decide to use steroids to own the stage and that couldnt make it otherwise unless they had a godlike genetics.

Regarding women, think of passport bros.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I believe that once we identify a goal, we have to establish a plan that allow us to reach it using the means available to us.

If we realize that the means at our disposal are insufficient or the means that we're allowed to use are ineffective, it's fair game to acquire new means or make use of those that we're not allowed to, given that the goal is really important to us.

I don't want to make assumptions, but how do you blend this with the topic under discussion, not feeling rejected by a rejection but learning from the experience to improve yourself? All is fair in love and war?

Regarding women, think of passport bros.

You think the best way to cope with rejection is to court foreign women desperate to leave their countries?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Example, think of pro body builders that decide to use steroids to own the stage and that couldnt make it otherwise unless they had a godlike genetics.

Okay, I think of professional bodybuilding and see people vain enough to endanger their health to win a competition with a body they wouldn't have without juicing.
Tell me how this relates to learning from rejection in order to become better at making connections with women.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Lol no they don’t have good reason to worry. It’s a made up fear to deflect from their not wanting to ask men out. If women rejected 100 guys MAYBE one out that 100 might…..might get violent or say something derogatory. 99% of the time men are like “oh, cool, well have a good one”. Even if it is a woman that doesn’t reject right away and goes on a few dates with a guy leading him on when she knows she doesn’t like him, the guy still doesn’t get violent. Might get a little bothered that she wasted his time but that’s about it. You’ve bought into this lie that women created about how they’re afraid to reject men because of violence they saw on tv or heard about but never experienced.

It feels like OP is assuming everywhere in the rest in overrun by Muslims. That's not the case - yet. The main justification for the post is the horror of "honor-based behavior" when it doesn't happen in the US, Canada or Australia for exampe.

There's a saying, "men fear ridicule, women fear violence". There are enough examples of irate rejected men who feel 'honour bound' to punish the woman rejecting them by beating up the woman / throwing acid / outright murdering her for the audacity to refuse them. If a woman actually rejects you directly she either trusts you not do anything stupid or she's armed and prepared to violently protect herself.

And to engage in a little chest-beating by putting down other men. Such a rare thing on this forum..

If you bolster up your fragile ego to the point where you can learn from rejections how to improve yourself and the way you approach women, you will find that the rejections will slack off because you become more attuned to both yourself and the woman you're conversing with.

 

[NealIRC]

You seem to have some reading comprehension.

I wrote:


Women have to worry about rejecting guys. Many guys cannot handle rejection and become violent towards women for rejecting them, regardless whether the reason is legitimate.

Telling women to stop worrying how a rejection affects a guy is actually bad advice.

Men have to grow some thicker skin and take rejection in stride so that women no longer have to fear getting acid thrown in their faces because of some guy's fragile ego.

But I wasn't even quoting those points, nor was I even quoting your bold, so my points had nothing to do with the particular points you bolded, for example.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I don't want to make assumptions, but how do you blend this with the topic under discussion, not feeling rejected by a rejection but learning from the experience to improve yourself? All is fair in love and war?


You think the best way to cope with rejection is to court foreign women desperate to leave their countries?

What I said is relevant to the topic for the simple fact that a man that gets rejected countless times doesnt have to learn ONLY to improve his approach or the way to socialize with women.

In most cases he has to learn what he lacks on a personal level to be attractive to women in general and often times the issues is related to his looks or his social position.

Not every man has the tools to improve those areas by sticking to the rules or to general minor actions like buying a new suit.

Regarding the foreign women it's you saying that they are desperate as a rule, it's not the case.

You take for granted that women exists only in two dimensions safe/desperate...you fail to realize that a woman's taste in men is influenced not only from biology but also for culture and upbringing.

A decent looking "nice guy" has no market in certain countries while he is well appreciated in others equally stable.

Is it immoral for you to move to a market that value you more? I dont think so, I consider it a life hack.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I have no contempt at all for those young guy that cant make it despite their best will cause the system is rigged so they decide to sell drugs.

Walter White sells drugs. He's a middle aged, white bald guy with a goatee.