Do you agree with this statement?

[soulforge]

The first guy gets 100% of her Heart.
Guy #2 gets 50% of her Heart.
Guy #3 gets 25% of her Heart & by the time it's at guy #10 it's less than 1%... So no more heart to give.. The 'Heart' has been sport pumped out of them.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Nope, cause there ain’t no better pump than mine.

 

[Glassguy]

Guy #34 gets a very, very damaged soul lol.

 

[pipeman84]

I don't know about the exact percentages, but I agree with the gist of it. The logical consequence is that if you're not her first guy, you're probably making a bad deal if you marry her ... you're giving away 100% of your freedom as a man in exchange for less than 100% of her heart and an used pvssy.

 

[soulforge]

Guy #34 gets a very, very damaged soul lol.

And likely sexualy up for ANYTHING.. Sometimes this is good news.

 

[Glassguy]

And likely sexualy up for ANYTHING.. Sometimes this is good news.

Very true. My ex had (what I considered) a high body count. And was very sexually experienced. But the sex was crazy. She would have been a great 2-3 month plate. Bad for business in terms of relationship.

 

[Glassguy]

I don't know about the exact percentages, but I agree with the gist of it. The logical consequence is that if you're not her first guy, you're probably making a bad deal if you marry her ... you're giving away 100% of your freedom as a man in exchange for less than 100% of her heart and an used pvssy.

Let me throw this out there- WHO CARES ABOUT LOVE? That really isnt what makes a relationship work.

There is trusting. Loyalty. Caring. Investing in you. Being financially responsible. Being able to communicate and have composure in difficult circumstances. Being very respectful. I could go on and on.

So which relationship is going to work out? A chick that loves you but has been through some bad relationships but has all the qualities above?

Or some 17 or 18 year old who doesnt have any qualities above but will LOVE you 100%?

Some of you dudes are so demented over things that minorly matter, you have no idea how to focus on things that majorly matter.

If you are spinning plates with no intent of a LTR, it doesnt matter.

Some of you dudes in your 20s and 30s expect pristine virgins in every chick you smash. Good luck with that. Reality is far from you.

 

[pipeman84]

There is trusting. Loyalty. Caring. Investing in you. Being financially responsible. Being able to communicate and have composure in difficult circumstances. Being very respectful. I could go on and on.

So which relationship is going to work out? A chick that loves you but has been through some bad relationships but has all the qualities above?

Or some 17 or 18 year old who doesnt have any qualities above but will LOVE you 100%?

A woman who has been through some bad relationships has already demonstrated bad decision making and lack of loyalty. Most probably her abilities to communicate and have composure in difficult circumstances are poor as well. She can say whatever sounds good and how it really wasn't her fault, but facts are facts. On the other hand, the 18yrs old with no relationship history has a clean slate. Again, facts. How isn't that obvious and still up to debate whenever this topic comes up, is beyond me.

 

[soulforge]

For the sake of this discussion, can we agree that "% heart" = "% of her best"?

IDK man, this is trying to calculate the % of oxytocin (read: love) a girl gets based on all her partners - under the assumption that all her partners were equal in her eyes.

I think women give different percentages of their best to different men, depending how highly they value each man - respectively. While I agree that % of a woman's best goes downhill as they have been with more partners, I still think her absolute best will always be reserved for the man who brings it out of her.

By the time she comes to you, if she is riddled with Trauma from multiple relationships gone wrong, pumped & dumped several times, Jaded due to multiple heartbreaks, been involved in all types of kinky degrading sex, maybe even threesomes.

Best bring your A++ A++ game if you're intending to bring the best out of her.

 

[soulforge]

A woman who has been through some bad relationships has already demonstrated bad decision making and lack of loyalty. Most probably her abilities to communicate and have composure in difficult circumstances are poor as well. She can say whatever sounds good and how it really wasn't her fault, but facts are facts. On the other hand, the 18yrs old with no relationship history has a clean slate. Again, facts. How isn't that obvious and still up to debate whenever this topic comes up, is beyond me.

Facts!

If she had ten dudes before YOU ten dudes decided not to get down on one knee and put a ring on her finger.

If said 10 dudes where not worthy, then this girl made 10 terrible decisions.

Sure let's trust a girl who has such terrible judgement of character.

 

[soulforge]

Why would you bring anything different?

I'm just realistic about expectations.. I'm pretty sure I don't have the ability to pump the years of Trauma out of her.

 

[soulforge]

I'm sure you have the ability to learn how to love pump her mind.

I mean I can certainly love pump her mind & then move the F on.. leave her with additional Trauma added to her already traumtic life.

 

[CornbreadFed]

No lol, most girls and even guys cringe on the thought of their first partner.

 

[Redwood]

Nope.

 

[Gamisch]

For the sake of this discussion, can we agree that "% heart" = "% of her best"?

IDK man, this is trying to calculate the % of oxytocin (read: love) a girl gets based on all her partners - under the assumption that all her partners were equal in her eyes.

I think women give different percentages of their best to different men, depending how highly they value each man - respectively. While I agree that % of a woman's best goes downhill as they have been with more partners, I still think her absolute best will always be reserved for the man who brings it out of her.

This.

Lets face it; every man gets the woman he deserves...i had some incredible women, but I was the one ditching them as I felt insufficient to be their partner. I rather hung around "bad bytches " because they were (seemingly) easier to convince of certain Pookie-ish things and ways of living.( think no decent car/crib /job ect).

To elaborate to my first sentence; you will get whatever level YOU operate on....as we can see...TONS of men get ZERO lol. Because in womanise/planet Female they are worthless. Then some other men get shb hb4's. The next group gets hb6 and up BUT degenerate women.

Somewhere at the top of the mountain are the men who get the good looking, smart obedient and loyal women, but they gotta be really, really sure of themselves and a tad lucky ofcourse....being rich and or famous is NOT enough by the way.
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Although bodycount matters, I'd challenge everyone of you (and needless to say MYSELF obviously) to become the best version,the absolute beast of a man you can be. Lets see what type of women you will get once you do reach a point that most men will never ever reach.

Honest question: did you EVER forced a woman to be her best self because YOU were your absolute best self?( aka you were MUCH better than her??) Redpill, cash, physique, positive state of mind, style/ wardrobe on point ect ect ect?

 

[The Duke]

What matters most is her ability to form a healthy bond. Love is a vague and over used term that is kind of meaningless.

 

[Glassguy]

What matters most is her ability to form a healthy bond. Love is a vague and over used term that is kind of meaningless.

And for those women that cant form a healthy bond, and many of them cant these days, they should be used for entertainment purposes only. Good cardio equipment for the short term.

 

[SW15]

What matters most is her ability to form a healthy bond. Love is a vague and over used term that is kind of meaningless.

Both sentences are true. The more past partners she has had, the less likely she is to be able to form that bond.

I don't know about the exact percentages, but I agree with the gist of it. The logical consequence is that if you're not her first guy, you're probably making a bad deal if you marry her ... you're giving away 100% of your freedom as a man in exchange for less than 100% of her heart and an used pvssy.

Well said. I agree with the gist of the statement in the first post as well.

 

[Bingo-Player]

For the sake of this discussion, can we agree that "% heart" = "% of her best"?

I still think her absolute best will always be reserved for the man who brings it out of her.

I agree but generally the first guy she falls "in love" with will set the stage for future relationships

Women are so emotionally chaotic they really really struggle to level themselves out and this gets harder and harder as they get older which leads into psychological damage and bitterness

they can't "let go" of past trauma as easily as men , something to do with ego I guess

My EX of last year was only 23 years old but she was an out and out wh0re and I could already see the damage starting to show in her that young

Sex with her was extremely good ( and dirty ) but I told her I didn't see a future with her because she was so untrustworthy and sneaky


She didn't take it well and has pretty much pursued me for a year

God help whoever gets stuck with her next

 

[pipeman84]

Facts!

If she had ten dudes before YOU ten dudes decided not to get down on one knee and put a ring on her finger.

Very well summarised and the way you put it made me realise that she probably won't respect the 5th, or 10th, whatever the number, guy who eventually puts a ring on her finger. Probably more on a subconscious level, but there's got to be that voice inside her telling that this guy can't be that smart/high-value that he locks himself to her after the previous 5 guys broke free. Consciously she'll say that finally a man saw her true value, but she won't be feeling that ... it's the same as with the couple where he looks perfect on paper but she, for whatever reason, doesn't feel attracted to him.