How to deal with “maybe some other day!”

[Robert28]

This is a fail but it may not be completely over. Wait exactly two weeks and then hit her up and say this “I know we kinda got off on the wrong foot the first time but if you aren’t busy I’d like to meet up and go do so and so one day this week.” If she replies you’re back in business, if she doesn’t you know you have no shot. I think it can be saved but it’s on life support and the nurse is coming into pull the plug. I would try one more time though but you better plan something fun or she isn’t going to bite.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Low interest. Soft next her as well, maybe shoot her a text in a few weeks. In the meantime, Spin more plates.

 

[SW15]

1. How to improve texting game? I go out and seduce rather often

You're asking the wrong question. The question you need to ask is "How would a suave seducer use text messaging as a part of seduction?"

The only use for text messaging is logistics. There is no small talk via text message. There are no deep conversations via text message. Text message is for logistics related to in-person get togethers.

When you meet women in-person, you do not ask for their phone numbers. Their phone numbers are irrelevant. When you meet women in-person, you ask for a specific time/date social interaction known as a first date. You then collect their phone number as an after thought and mere formality of staying in contact.

The same applies when you're in an extended relationship with a woman. Texting is logistics only. If she wants to have a drawn out conversation, ask for time on the phone or get together in-person. It may be difficult to get a Millennial or Gen Z woman to talk on a telephone, but it's important to keep that boundary.

2. How can i build a social circle?

Do you have any current friends? That's your place to start. You need to know if there are any unattached women who your friends know. Do your male friends have girlfriends? It's possible that your male friends have girlfriends who know unattached women, especially since you are in your early to mid 20s when that's still possible. That's a lot more difficult to do in your mid-30s to early 40s when most people are partnered off.

If you don't have any social circle options, you're going to need to be active in some female friendly activities and talk to a lot of people to grow a social network. It will take time. It might even take years.

Below is some additional information on the social circle method.

Social circle introductions are the best option for a normie range guy. Most men are normie range.

Social circle is great for getting a girlfriend. Pay close attention to the words "a girlfriend". That means one girlfriend. If you're looking for an extended relationship (2-5 years or more), your best bet for getting that with the least amount of grief and frustration is social circle. Many men who get social circle girlfriends tend to retain those girlfriends for a long time and often beyond the useful life of the relationship. A lot of the social circle girlfriend guys are beta males and beta males operate from a scarcity mindset. It's common to see a 10 year+ relationship from social circle which does lead to a marriage proposal.

For men with social circles, the problem with the social circle method eventually becomes sustainability as social circles get pissed at men who continually exchange girlfriends, even if the relationships are semi-long (1-4 years). The behavior described in the last sentence is serial monogamy, so it is accurate to say that social circles get pissed off at serial monogamists. It is important to remember that social circles generally have a blue pill viewpoint on romantic relationships. A man might be able to pull 2 LTRs from a social circle without marrying one. After 2 instances, he will have typically bled the social circle dry. This is known as "poisoning the well".

Most men with normie range looks will have a rather difficult time in approaching strangers for many reasons. It's inefficient. You'll probably be starting a lot of conversations with women with existing boyfriends, and that's even if you optimize your venue selection for approaching. The good thing is that most of those interactions will fall flat and die within 30-60 seconds, probably before she can even tell you she has a boyfriend.

So why you want to play things like a chad if you are not one?

Men who aren't in the top tier can't play the game like men in the top tier. A top tier man can get away with a lot more. A normie tier man has virtual zero margin for error in the early stages.

I believe that most top tier men aren't offering McDonald's or Domino's Pizza to their prospects.

This is a fail but it may not be completely over. Wait exactly two weeks and then hit her up and say this “I know we kinda got off on the wrong foot the first time but if you aren’t busy I’d like to meet up and go do so and so one day this week.” If she replies you’re back in business, if she doesn’t you know you have no shot. I think it can be saved but it’s on life support and the nurse is coming into pull the plug. I would try one more time though but you better plan something fun or she isn’t going to bite.

A suave seducer with true abundance is not going to need to wait 2 weeks on a prospect. He has so many options that he would forget about someone in 2 weeks. Waiting 2 weeks like you suggest is a very low percentage play and not even worth doing. Live abundantly!

 

[Bigpapa]

I believe that most top tier men aren't offering McDonald's or Domino's Pizza to their prospects.

Bingo!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Anyone who recommends Domino's pizza needs to move to a place with quality options.

These franchise pizza places are crap, nobody would be caught dead eating from one of those here.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Soft rejections are. on occasion, salvageable. I asked a girl at work out. She gave me a soft rejection. I maintained contact with her. We got together 3 months later.

 

[Bigpapa]

Soft rejections are. on occasion, salvageable. I asked a girl at work out. She gave me a soft rejection. I maintained contact with her. We got together 3 months later.

Bad initial timing, maybe there was another guy or just freshly out of a relationship

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Bad initial timing, maybe there was another guy or just freshly out of a relationship

Exactly. A soft rejection does leave the door open. But. there must be a fine balance.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I believe that most top tier men aren't offering McDonald's or Domino's Pizza to their prospects.

Top tier men offer women the use of their kitchen to whip up a meal.