Empirical Insights: How Higher Education Impacts Divorce Rates Among Women

[self_is_an_illusion]

Research and statistics have shown that college-educated women tend to have lower divorce rates compared to women with less education. Here are some findings from various studies and reports:

1. A study conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics found that 78% of college-educated women who married for the first time between 2006 and 2010 could expect their marriages to last at least 20 years. In contrast, the same expectation was only 40% among women who have a high school education or less (Source: Pew Research Center, www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/#:~:text=Researchers%20at%20the%20National%20Center,the%20share%20is%20only%2040).

2. Another study highlighted that both the least educated (no high school diploma or GED) and the highest educated (college degree) women shared the lowest rate of first divorce, with 14.4 and 14.2 per 1,000 respectively (Source: ScienceDaily, www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111103161830.htm#:~:text=The%20least%20,Broken).

3. A comparison of American women who married in the periods 1975-1979 and 1990-1994 revealed a 10% drop in the divorce rate for women with a 4-year college degree, and an 8% increase in the divorce rate for women without a high school degree (Source: NCBI, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3864686/#:~:text=A%20comparison%20of%20American%20women,Martin%2C%202006).

4. According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics in 2013, the chance of a marriage ending in divorce decreases as educational attainment rises: over half of the marriages among people who did not complete high school ended in divorce compared with approximately 30 percent of marriages among college graduates (Source: The Marriage Restoration Project, https://themarriagerestorationproje...f a marriage,Possible Theories Explaining Why).

These findings suggest that higher education among women is associated with lower divorce rates, possibly due to factors like better communication skills, financial stability, and aligned life goals among educated couples.

Does this scare you guys? The evidence basically says if you can’t land a college educated woman, you’re gonna have a harder time keeping a lasting meaningful relationship.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Does this scare you guys? The evidence basically says if you can’t land a college educated woman, you’re gonna have a harder time keeping a lasting meaningful relationship.

The issue is that most guys cannot economically compete with women til their 40s.

 

[parabellum]

The issue is that most guys cannot economically compete with women til their 40s.

I don’t think you need to compete with a college educated woman in order to get her. Being financially independent, a college woman can afford not to care too much about the individual finances of her partner as long as said partner is financially independent.

I that said, college educated women have plenty of other issues worth considering, which I believe has been discussed in other forum posts.

 

[Gamisch]

Research and statistics have shown that college-educated women tend to have lower divorce rates compared to women with less education. Here are some findings from various studies and reports:

1. A study conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics found that 78% of college-educated women who married for the first time between 2006 and 2010 could expect their marriages to last at least 20 years. In contrast, the same expectation was only 40% among women who have a high school education or less (Source: Pew Research Center, www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/#:~:text=Researchers%20at%20the%20National%20Center,the%20share%20is%20only%2040).

2. Another study highlighted that both the least educated (no high school diploma or GED) and the highest educated (college degree) women shared the lowest rate of first divorce, with 14.4 and 14.2 per 1,000 respectively (Source: ScienceDaily, www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111103161830.htm#:~:text=The%20least%20,Broken).

3. A comparison of American women who married in the periods 1975-1979 and 1990-1994 revealed a 10% drop in the divorce rate for women with a 4-year college degree, and an 8% increase in the divorce rate for women without a high school degree (Source: NCBI, www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3864686/#:~:text=A%20comparison%20of%20American%20women,Martin%2C%202006).

4. According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics in 2013, the chance of a marriage ending in divorce decreases as educational attainment rises: over half of the marriages among people who did not complete high school ended in divorce compared with approximately 30 percent of marriages among college graduates (Source: The Marriage Restoration Project, https://themarriagerestorationproject.com/why-does-the-divorce-rate-decrease-as-education-level-increases/#:~:text=“The chance of a marriage,Possible Theories Explaining Why).

These findings suggest that higher education among women is associated with lower divorce rates, possibly due to factors like better communication skills, financial stability, and aligned life goals among educated couples.

Does this scare you guys? The evidence basically says if you can’t land a college educated woman, you’re gonna have a harder time keeping a lasting meaningful relationship.

Ofcourse. I've been through it all. Education with convicts and low iq troublesome dudes to the art academy mixed in a building with university students.

First of all better educated people generally eat better, live better, experiencing less stressful lifes and conditions and are raised better.

Then ,on top of that these women will definitely NOT let a future medical specialist walk away just like that. Dont ever think that these women you describe didn't went for Chad tier men.These women just get shooped away early, and come into what I call a POSITIVE cycle where she will live a healthy life, and her man makes more and more money and stays healthy/attractive as well.They both grow and have very little incentive to leave each other.

Less educated women will by definition look up for a better deal. None educated women..well...for them basically everything goes.

The "funny" thing is we ALL been lied to tho: the plumber can make more than a doctor EASILY. Yet I recently saw a video where women said they'd rather be with a doctor who makes less than a plumber...social status baby

 

[SW15]

The issue is that most guys cannot economically compete with women til their 40s.

There's a lot of truth to this and this started to become more of a reality with the later Gen X'ers who turned 40 during the 2010s.

The older, 1980s born Millennials are turning right now and will continue to turn 40 during the rest of the 2020s decade. This will ring even more true for them than Generation X.

One of the things that helps men catch up with women around age 40 and eventually exceed them is that women tend to have children between ages 26-39. Having children typically slows a woman's career progression. Men do not experience this whether they remain childless until age 40 or have children before age 40, though there is some evidence that married fathers tend to outperform childless men in the workplace.

I don’t think you need to compete with a college educated woman in order to get her.

It's true that it isn't needed. It is more difficult to get with a woman with a bachelor's degree or higher if you are a man with less than a bachelor's degree.

There are many well earning men with trade certifications and trade occupations who often struggle to have longer term relationships with women with bachelor's degrees or higher.

Being financially independent, a college woman can afford not to care too much about the individual finances of her partner as long as said partner is financially independent.

This is partially true. Women have become far more financially independent since most Boomer women reached adulthood in the 1970s.

This shift gained a lot of momentum in the Baby Boomer generation. A lot of Baby Boomer women got bachelor's degrees or higher in the late 1960s and 1970s. With that said, Generation X women who came of age in the 1980s & 1990s at even higher rates than Baby Boomer women of the late 1960s/1970s.

Baby Boomer and Generation X women were encouraged to be independent women, often by their parents and sometimes by the culture at large. Boomer women born in the late 1940s and 1950s who obtained their college degrees in the 1970s didn't have to worry about spending their rest of their lives economically dependent upon some man and dependent upon their marriage outcomes. This was a change as compared to a lot of women born before 1940.

college educated women have plenty of other issues worth considering, which I believe has been discussed in other forum posts.

You can date and keep a corporate woman who makes more then you.

It's important to point that there's a difference between a woman with a bachelor's degree and a woman with an advanced degree. A woman with a bachelor's degree from a non-elite university might be an acceptable option so long as she isn't career obsessed. It's much more difficult to find a woman with desirable feminine traits among women with bachelor's degrees from elitist universities. Once a woman has an advanced degree, the lack of desirable feminine traits is evident.

There's a lot of evidence that longer term relationships and marriages have worse outcomes when the woman outearns the man. In the real world in most people's social circles, this is more difficult to observe because there are plenty of relationships where the woman outearns the man and they slowly disintegrate. It may take anywhere from 5-20 years for these relationships to fail and the first sentence to be true. A lot of people can erroneously believe that these relationships where women outearn men can work, simply because some of these relationships are able to last a long time before ultimately failing.

 

[EyeBRollin]

That is a poor conclusion of the data. It’s not the education itself, it is the socioeconomic status. People with higher education on average make more money, and tend to mate with people of the same socioeconomic status. The number one cause of divorce is financial issues (usually instability).

 

[CornbreadFed]

Guys these threads have 0 to do with game like talking to her about bitcoin on your first date.
These topics are useless.
Why not post this in finance?
You can date and keep a corporate woman who makes more then you.

Why are you always complaining?

 

[CornbreadFed]

I don’t think you need to compete with a college educated woman in order to get her. Being financially independent, a college woman can afford not to care too much about the individual finances of her partner as long as said partner is financially independent.

I that said, college educated women have plenty of other issues worth considering, which I believe has been discussed in other forum posts.

Depends how you define financially independent? If you are talking about a lawyer/doctor or well-established career with clout....Yes. If you are talking about Bitcoin Bro, Hustler, or some blue-collar job then no.

There's a lot of truth to this and this started to become more of a reality with the later Gen X'ers who turned 40 during the 2010s.

The older, 1980s born Millennials are turning right now and will continue to turn 40 during the rest of the 2020s decade. This will ring even more true for them than Generation X.

One of the things that helps men catch up with women around age 40 and eventually exceed them is that women tend to have children between ages 26-39. Having children typically slows a woman's career progression. Men do not experience this whether they remain childless until age 40 or have children before age 40, though there is some evidence that married fathers tend to outperform childless men in the workplace.

I think men are just the last ones to be given a chance to succeed in a work environment. Women and the Good Ole Boys get first dibs at promotions earlier on and once they fizzle out, your average man is next in line.

 

[SW15]

In considering the original post from @self_is_an_illusion , I have some observations to add.

1. What happens when a woman's completes a higher level degree after she gets married? In the last ~25 years, the biggest shift would likely be women marrying while their highest level of educational attainment is a bachelor's degree and later they obtain an advanced degree during the course of the marriage. From the mid-1960s to mid-1990s, the more common shift would have likely been a woman with a high school diploma finishing up a bachelor's degree after the wedding day.

2. To me, there are 4 groups to consider when thinking about the highest level of education completed.

1. Women with a high school diploma/GED or less.
2. Women with an associate degree/trade certification. There are a lot of women in this category. These are the dental hygienists, medical assistants, some nurses, and many paralegals. These women are different in a lot of ways than Group 1 above.
3. Women with a bachelor's degree.
4. Women with an advanced degree.

A lot of the data points from @self_is_an_illusion combined Groups 3 & 4. Group 1 in that research often separated high school diploma holders from high school dropouts, which I don't think as applicable as it once was.

 

[SW15]

I think men are just the last ones to be given a chance to succeed in a work environment. Women and the Good Ole Boys get first dibs at promotions earlier on and once they fizzle out, your average man is next in line.

Your assertion has merit. I think the childbirth effect on women's careers is real too.

A lot of companies want to hire and promote women. Childless women tend to benefit from this. You mention once women fizzle out. Women with children can fizzle out juggling the demands of a middle management or higher job and the job of raising a family. However, there are even some subpar childless women as white collar middle or upper managers.

Good Ole Boys are often men with better social and/or professional networks.

The more average men are men with weaker social/professional networks and tend to only get hired as general applicants. It's more difficult to get hired as a general applicant as a man than a woman, especially as a White man. Companies will get a lot of diversity hires from the general applicant pool if they can't fill a position through the professional networks of their current employees.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The more average men are men with weaker social/professional networks and tend to only get hired as general applicants. It's more difficult to get hired as a general applicant as a man than a woman, especially as a White man. Companies will get a lot of diversity hires from the general applicant pool if they can't fill a position through the professional networks of their current employees.

Coming from a black man's perspective, diversity quotas are prioritized towards women and black men that meet certain criteria. Non-Woke(LGBT mainly) black men or Non-Woke POC Men in general do not get the special treatment that women and LGBT get. The exceptions to the rule are the Ex-Athlete Black guys that put on a suit for the first time with the dumb dreads and jestermax the office.

 

[SW15]

Non-Woke(LGBT mainly) black men

I think there's a typo here. Generally, LGBT is woke.

diversity quotas are prioritized towards women and black men that meet certain criteria.....Non-Woke POC Men in general do not get the special treatment that women and LGBT get.

From the perspective of a White man, I have not seen this. I have seen some incompetent non-White men get hired who seemed to have ordinary ideologies. This hurts the non-White men who are competent and capable.

Both non-White women and White women get special treatment and benefit from the diversity quotas. There are plenty of incompetent women who get hired or promoted due to the special treatment.

Being non-White, LGBT, and female is the perfect combination for getting preferential treatment.

Ex-Athlete Black guys that put on a suit for the first time with the dumb dreads and jestermax the office.

I've never seen this exact situation happen. I have seen ex-athlete black guys get hired into white collar office work jobs, but they weren't guys with dreads.

 

[SW15]

A lot of CEOs are beta cucks at home.

This happens with some regularity. It's amazing when a CEO is the so-called alpha male of a company, but he is a beta male to his wife at home.

Not all betas are cucks. It is possible that a beta male has a wife who hasn't cheated yet but is likely to cheat on him in the future.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I think there's a typo here. Generally, LGBT is woke.
From the perspective of a White man, I have not seen this. I have seen some incompetent non-White men get hired who seemed to have ordinary ideologies. This hurts the non-White men who are competent and capable.

Both of you are capping. I’ve seen incompetent people hired of literally every age, race, gender/LGBT status, and education level. There are incompetent nincompoops hired every day in every kind or organization. Heck, even upper management mostly has misses. My new supervisor is an Asian female, super book smart but lacking common sense. She ends up deferring to me on everything client facing otherwise she’ll screw it up.

 

[CornbreadFed]

From the perspective of a White man, I have not seen this. I have seen some incompetent non-White men get hired who seemed to have ordinary ideologies. This hurts the non-White men who are competent and capable.

Both non-White women and White women get special treatment and benefit from the diversity quotas. There are plenty of incompetent women who get hired or promoted due to the special treatment.

Being non-White, LGBT, and female is the perfect combination for getting preferential treatment.

I wish I could experience this because I have never benefitted from this. I usually get passed by women or Good Ole Boy white guys for promotions.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Fact remains. Her career level or fancy degree doesn't mean shyt if you got game.

Then why do y'all constantly bvtch and moan about how hard OLD is because of the evil careerist women on there?

 

[CornbreadFed]

No buddy is whining except you.
Im stating fact. The numbers and research are out there.

OLD for most men is a waste of time. What part don't you understand?
Keep being so dumb and Im putting you on ignore.

But just get GAME bro and you will be successful in OLD.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Relatable to what @SW15 and me were talking about

 

[SW15]

I wish I could experience this because I have never benefitted from this. I usually get passed by women or Good Ole Boy white guys for promotions.

You are mentioning internal promotions here. That's only one part of hiring.

Have you ever tracked your interview processes when you were an external candidate? Ever been through multiple rounds of interviews, not get hired, and then go to LinkedIn to see who got hired for the role in which you interviewed? I have done that multiple times. The vast majority of time when I was not hired, I was passed over for a woman with lesser qualifications and sometimes it's even a non-White woman with lesser qualifications.

We have commonality in the sense that both of us have gotten passed over in hiring decisions because of women receiving preferential hiring treatment.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Have you ever tracked your interview processes when you were an external candidate? Ever been through multiple rounds of interviews, not get hired, and then go to LinkedIn to see who got hired for the role in which you interviewed? I have done that multiple times. The vast majority of time when I was not hired, I was passed over for a woman with lesser qualifications and sometimes it's even a non-White woman with lesser qualifications.

no lol, that's too much work and heartbreak for me. If I lose to the better man or woman, I study on what they did right and try and implement it.

We have commonality in the sense that both of us have gotten passed over in hiring decisions because of women receiving preferential hiring treatment.

I was recently given a promotion for my work performance into another role. I was later said that it wasn't going to happen anymore because of "Restructuring" and the company missing quota. I put the puzzle pieces together and it turns out this Good Ole Boy Dude Bro White Guy that doesn't even meet half his quota and KPIs was given the job because he complained lol.