Discontent Towards Boomers

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

My place here is established, I’ll post whatever I’d like, whenever I’d like about whatever I’d like (within forum rules of course).

Would you like some string cheese with your entitled little brat whine?

Im not questioning your place, but your intellect, we could go back N fourth calling each other whiners so why don't you offer up some intelligent conversation? Cause you can't but your so emotionally triggered you feel like you need to participate? Sad.

You'd never make it today.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

What do you have to say here besides “bad boomers” they’re the reason my life and the world sucks, they had it ALL! They squandered it! Bad boomers!

Yep? So? Whatcha looking to gain from the discussion? “Understanding”?

b1tches seek “understanding” men do rub some dirt on it and keep going.

Geez you MUST be a millennial. maybe talk to your therapist about your SNRI dosages?

Im not questioning your place, but your intellect, we could go back N fourth calling each other whiners so why don't you offer up some intelligent conversation? Cause you can't but your so emotionally triggered you feel like you need to participate? Sad.

You'd never make it today.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

What do you have to say here besides “bad boomers” they’re the reason my life and the world sucks, they had it ALL! They squandered it! Bad boomers!

Yep? So? Whatcha looking to gain from the discussion? “Understanding”?

b1tches seek “understanding” men do rub some dirt on it and keep going.

Geez you MUST be a millennial. maybe talk to your therapist about your SNRI dosages?

I never said any of that, now your just making stuff up, you are not very smart are you? Gotta make up your own arguments then provide responses to them to participate, how sad.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Nope just having fun at your expense Bocephus.

I’ll leave you to your previously scheduled whining.

I never said any of that, now your just making stuff up, you are not very smart are you? Gotta make up your own arguments then provide responses to them to participate, how sad.

 

[EyeBRollin]

What do you have to say here besides “bad boomers” they’re the reason my life and the world sucks, they had it ALL! They squandered it! Bad boomers!

That is the topic. Is it not?

 

[The Duke]

Baby Boomers tend to be conservative minded, maybe thats the main core issue creating so much discontent with younger generations that lean more left?

After you get past the "Boomers are BAD" language, here is what was said:

-pass down the equity
- he took his pension early and is retired, not even 65, many people later on are looking at a life completely devoid of any retirement at all. I'm downright infuriated!
-you shouldn't have to hustle to make it.
- it is about the psychopathy of getting yours and telling people after you to pound sand.
- don't get rid of the teachers union and dont defund the transit system.
- is he trying make sure no else has the same “opportunity?”
-worried about healthcare for fat azzes that gorge them self on a diet of fast food.
-construction is a sh!t job.

Those are very liberal/leftist mindsets.

The other side disagrees because they believe in taking risks, individualism, figure it out on your own, self-made, hard work gets rewarded, self-improvement, get off your a$$, start at the bottom, work your way to the top, self-responsibility. Very much Boomer/conservative thoughts.

@Kotaix & @SargeMaximus called it. Its all identity politics.

Thank you to those who participated. It all makes sense now.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@The Duke narcissism is the core issue creating the discontent. But to your point there does seem to been some "fanning of the flames" involved.

 

[SW15]

Baby Boomers tend to be conservative minded, maybe thats the main core issue creating so much discontent with younger generations that lean more left?

When Boomers were younger, they were not known for conservatism. That was true in the late 1960s with the earliest of Boomers attending Woodstock, though a lot of Woodstock attendees were late Silent Generation. This continued into the 1970s, but Boomer conservatism started to appear in the 1980s.

I do not foresee Millennials becoming more conservative as they age.

 

[Kotaix]

When Boomers were younger, they were not known for conservatism. That was true in the late 1960s with the earliest of Boomers attending Woodstock, though a lot of Woodstock attendees were late Silent Generation. This continued into the 1970s, but Boomer conservatism started to appear in the 1980s.

I do not foresee Millennials becoming more conservative as they age.

'If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain'.


There is a huge distinction between being liberal and being a leftist. They are not the same thing, not even remotely.

Liberals have a heart and they feel empathy towards others. They also believe in meritocracy.

Leftists are Machiavellian and borderline psychopathic. They have no problem manipulating liberals into siding with them and they have zero morals. They CLAIM to be for the working class and the oppressed, but they're just lying. They're only interested in getting money and power for themselves, "by any means necessary" as they always say. They're envious, resentful and delusional.

The proof of this is in the pudding: Leftist revolutions always result government where a tiny elite have all the power and money, and everyone else is poor and starving.

Liberals project their own values onto leftists and think they're honorable, but in reality leftists despise liberals. They they see them as weak and feckless. This is why useful idiot liberals are always the first ones that end up either exiled, or lined up against a wall and shot.

 

[CornbreadFed]

'If You Are Not a Liberal When You Are Young, You Have No Heart, and If You Are Not a Conservative When Old, You Have No Brain'.

This more relates to lifestyle upgrade IMHO. Millennials & Gen X aren't experiencing the same lifestyle bumps as the boomer did when they graduated college. When you have a Pension, affordable housing, and guaranteed job stability.... It is easier to be a conservative. In addition, The Republican party has turned away from its core values as well, so even if a millennial wants to consider jumping ship, he finds it hard to align his or herself with the party.

 

[Stanley]

I stopped subscribing to the whole Insert: Generation, gender, race, religion, identity politics the past few years. I realized as many others have that these titles and generalizations often lead to radicalization of an individual. When I let go of that and started judging people off of real life face to face interactions I grew less angry and more open minded. I think having a firm understanding of self, political alignment, morals and accountability makes dealing with this much easier.

I've seen some of my age demographic disparage against boomers, i've also seen them go after every other generation. ****, nowadays any quality an individual/group possesses can be weaponized, scrutinized and vilified resulting in a large group think of hate. It isn't exclusive to younger demographics, it is now in the current zeitgeist to 'cancel' and speak ill of others at large. I think a good portion of this hatred is perpetuated by legacy media with vested interest in creating discord to divide the masses. I do think the modern incarnation of cancel culture is coming to an end though, people are fed up, men are fed up and legacy media is dying.

I think a many of the opinions and views which express discontent towards groups of people are far more common online and in media than in real life. I rarely meet people in the real world who speak as they do online. Mike Tyson is correct when he says "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." I often find just as many like minded young folks who don't agree with many issues going on in the West and rarely do I hear them place blame and disdain upon boomers. I'll hear 'em whine about inflation and not affording something, but most are going through that anyways.

I understand the gripes that GenZ/Millennials express towards Boomers and the like, just as I understand the negative sentiments held by older generations towards younger. Each subset of people will have their own unique issues found amongst their age group. I think it is silly to place blame and get in fights over it. There is nothing to gain by claiming someone had it better than the other or the inverse, it is wasted energy with nothing to gain. I believe the reason people often do it is because by some metric they want to be heard and understood. Subsequently, older generations often dismiss the younger which only fans the flames and adds to the cycle.

Speaking of which, this cycle has existed for a very long time. This video is funny and puts into perspective

 

[BillyPilgrim]

@Stanley it also depends on the up-and-downs and the lifecycle of the civilization/society/empire. I wasn't there, but I doubt the people who came of age in the Roaring Twenties were as condescending of those who came of age during the Great Depression. Likewise, if there's a collapse the surviving Zoomers won't be henpecking the survivors of the subsequent generation quite as much as we see between the Boomers and Millennials..

Imo the generational anger should be directed at those creating the economic boom-and-bust cycles instead of Mikey or Gramps.

 

[Stanley]

@Stanley it also depends on the up-and-downs and the lifecycle of the civilization/society/empire. I wasn't there, but I doubt the people who came of age in the Roaring Twenties were as condescending of those who came of age during the Great Depression. Likewise, if there's a collapse the surviving Zoomers won't be henpecking the survivors of the subsequent generation quite as much as we see between the Boomers and Millennials..

Imo the generational anger should be directed at those creating the economic boom-and-bust cycles instead of Mikey or Gramps.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

I just would hope that anger could be transmuted in a way conducive to positive growth for current and future generations, I often see that hatred emerge in misdirected ways. I used to be quite an angry fella and it wasn't until I built upon my understanding of politics, power and the like that I began to realize that there were ways I could direct that energy. I first had to find those justified outlets though and take on the mantle of self accountability.

 

[Fruitbat]

I think the discontent towards boomers is largely manufactured by left wingers in universities and media.

Boomers did not have the social mobility we have. My dad left school at 14 and he was expected to be a nobody and was trained to be a nobody. He had to work horrible jobs with poor working conditions, ensure some recessions of biblical magnitude. Recessions these days are nothing like the ones I remembered from the 80s where literally every local shop shut down.

I do not share the antipathy and think it’s largely leftist doing leftist things by turning son against father. Greta is a prime example. “You stole my dreams”

It’s Maoist cultural revolution 101 to create this division so they can have their rainbow BS new society. Boomers cared for most of us, wiped our noses and changed our nappies.

They won out on housing but none of us know how our trajectory will go yet.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I think the discontent towards boomers is largely manufactured by left wingers in universities and media.

Boomers did not have the social mobility we have. My dad left school at 14 and he was expected to be a nobody and was trained to be a nobody. He had to work horrible jobs with poor working conditions, ensure some recessions of biblical magnitude. Recessions these days are nothing like the ones I remembered from the 80s where literally every local shop shut down.

I do not share the antipathy and think it’s largely leftist doing leftist things by turning son against father. Greta is a prime example. “You stole my dreams”

It’s Maoist cultural revolution 101 to create this division so they can have their rainbow BS new society. Boomers cared for most of us, wiped our noses and changed our nappies.

They won out on housing but none of us know how our trajectory will go yet.

Boomers worked and recieved the fruits of their labor through equity, pensions, ownership, and etc. In today's world you are better off just not working and living as a minimalist off the government cheese because working today means debt, no rewards, and taxes.

 

[sangheilios]

The boomers had everything going for them and want to take it to their graves. Love your elders to death but that generation some of them made upwards of $30 / hour over four decades ago (in that years money, not todays money) with just a high school education. Homes were only $30K. Then the constant lectures from them about kids these days are just lazy pieces of shvt that don’t deserve two pennies.

There have been a lot of replies on here, but this comment stood out to me.

I actually remember seeing some articles not that long ago where they surveyed boomers and a good percentage of them mentioned they had no plans of leaving any inheritance for their children.

 

[sangheilios]

@The Duke

There have been a lot of replies on this thread, but I've had many conversations pertaining to this topic and seen/observed boomer behavior.

@SW15 mentioned this, but the boomer generation were literally born at the right place at the right time.

Getting individual circumstances out of the way, as long as you were a relatively normal person that showed up to some of work, got training, etc. you were guaranteed to have a middle class lifestyle, become a home owner, etc. Wages were competitive and cost of housing was not insanely out of control like it is now. Fun fact, boomers control about 2/3 of the real estate in the U.S., they sure as hell can't take that with them lol.

Literally every man in this generation easily found someone who he could eventually marry and have children with, which is NOT the same for the men of their children's generation. There are a lot of factors at play here and I'm not going to dig further into them on this post here.

Higher education was much more affordable then compared to now. I remember hearing a boomer I know complain about how her college education cost her 10k total and how right out of school she was making under $10/hour in the late 70s. It's honestly not that unusual to see many people today with close to 6 figures in student loan debt or more. The strength of the bachelor's degree has been insanely watered down over the last 30 years or so and many people look at this and think the next step is to get a master's degree lol. It's an endless cycle of ever increasing student loan debt while delaying bringing in an actual income, investing, saving, etc.

Social security- There's been a lot of talk that the boomer generation is going to run this dry. I am not privy to the exact figures behind this, but I believe that by the time millennials and gen zs start approaching their retirement age this may not be available, or at least not like we know it now. It's very likely that this generation will have to continue to work well into their 70s.

Here is the take home of all of this. The boomers were incredibly lucky, but many do not realize how easy they had it. It isn't impossible to get ahead as a young adult in America, but you have to be way more on point with your game to do well for yourself compared to this generation. Again, this generation did well by just showing up, they literally received participation trophies in life lol. A millennial or gen z would have to be consistently making very good decisions with career, finance and investing, education, etc. in order to do well. It doesn't take much for this generation to make a decision that could have severe ramifications for years or even decades, student loan debt being one of them.

 

[zekko]

Another legitimate point of criticism for Boomers is the absolute terrible job they did parenting Millennials.

Speaking as a Boomer, a lot of this thread is just hate. But the above point is the Boomers' biggest and most legitimate failure. They didn't do enough to pass the Christian faith on to the next generations. We were part of the generation that abandoned churches, so that was a big part of it. That robbed the younger people of traditional morals and values, including a good work ethic. I guarantee you I didn't have things handed to me, I had to fail and restart several times before I finally found my niche. My family was poor and I had to learn to depend on myself.

It's interesting how Boomers are hated for being conservative, because one of their biggest failures is the way they embraced leftism when they were younger, and allowed feminism and hedonism to take control. But they say if you aren't liberal when you're young, you have no heart. And if you aren't conservative when you're older, you have no brain.

The inflation stinks today, but you can earn insane salaries now compared to what we had. But most of what I hear from the younger generations is how they want a four day work week, want to work from home, and think things should be handed to them.

We were also betrayed by the politicians. Social Security was to be its own fund, but they were the ones who raided it to pay for the rest of the bloated government. That's why Social Security is in jeopardy, not because Boomers want it all for themselves. You can blame us for the politicians, but I didn't vote for that policy, I've spent my life fighting that kind of thinking. For all the good it's done.

 

[Fruitbat]

Speaking as a Boomer, a lot of this thread is just hate. But the above point is the Boomers' biggest and most legitimate failure. They didn't do enough to pass the Christian faith on to the next generations. We were part of the generation that abandoned churches, so that was a big part of it. That robbed the younger people of traditional morals and values, including a good work ethic. I guarantee you I didn't have things handed to me, I had to fail and restart several times before I finally found my niche. My family was poor and I had to learn to depend on myself.

It's interesting how Boomers are hated for being conservative, because one of their biggest failures is the way they embraced leftism when they were younger, and allowed feminism and hedonism to take control. But they say if you aren't liberal when you're young, you have no heart. And if you aren't conservative when you're older, you have no brain.

The inflation stinks today, but you can earn insane salaries now compared to what we had. But most of what I hear from the younger generations is how they want a four day work week, want to work from home, and think things should be handed to them.

We were also betrayed by the politicians. Social Security was to be its own fund, but they were the ones who raided it to pay for the rest of the bloated government. That's why Social Security is in jeopardy, not because Boomers want it all for themselves. You can blame us for the politicians, but I didn't vote for that policy, I've spent my life fighting that kind of thinking. For all the good it's done.

Im a millennial and I agree with everything apart from Christianity - not going to go into why as I don’t think we should turn this into a debate on religion.

I personally think my own generation is amongst the worst we’ve produced. I’m an old millienal so close to Gen Z and I think Boomers didn’t have this world of milk and honey. Life was a LOT harder for my parents when I was a kid. In Britain the class system was still quite strong in the 80s. That’s changed. You couldn’t go abroad easily, it was very expensive. Workplace rights were non existent. There was the Cold War, Vietnam etc.

Housing is more expensive now that’s for sure, but that wealth will pass down. Mlenials are so self absorbed they don’t see that they can’t compare to people who are much older - they always have more money.

Boomers had decent education. Millennials didn’t, the left entirely took it over. You have the strange dissonance with Millenials that they Moan about being poor yet are generally very keen on climate action that keeps them poor and pro migration which makes property more expensive.

When boomers die off we will be in charge and good luck to everyone when that happens. We will be a mess of socialist ideas while we are overtaken by the east. They will happily hand away everything and destroy ideas like nuclear family. Millennials will leave our nations poorer.

If you raise a generation to believe that everyone deserves a prize this is what happens. And that’s an error on boomers part.

 

[BoomToTheMoonAlice]

its because Gen Z is mentally retarded.

I've never seen so many stupid, scared, spoiled and shy people in one place as when I go to the local Uni and look around. I can't tell the difference between half the men and women; they are terrified of EVERYTHING. We have a young GenZ renter downstairs, we found a mouse, and he has locked himself in his room and barricaded the door. My wife says the Gen Z's cry when they have to show up to work on time or stay for a 4 hour shift. I showed a Gen Z'r a game in VR and he literally had a panic attack. A lot of late Millennials are cowards and losers but Gen Z takes it to another level.


Yesterday, I saw one of the little bastards laying on a sidewalk checking his phone. The grounds workers were waiting for him to get up. He seemed to find it entertaining and I imagine the little idiot pad he was staring into was filled with a bunch of retards just like him. These stupid phones have ruined an entire generation.