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Shooting yourself in the foot - approach/interaction Journal

anour

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i just came out of a bar, met this stunning beauty. I approached her and we begin small talk. Once we begin small talk, she comes closer, she then points her feet outwards like she wants to exit, it kept happening back & forth for a little while. We still vibing and i see a tattoo on her written with my language, i ask her if she knows my language, she replies just a few words. She then says she has to go back to her friends, she says they’re on an exchange too (they’re on a university exchange, i am a uni student) i was like let’s go and meet your friends.

We go and i start talking to her friends, she leaves to get something to eat. I am connecting with her friends, i keep it playful. She then comes back after a while and tells me to get up from the chair as it is her chair, i reply no go get a new chair. “For some reason i got irritated like wtf why would you say that, i would say this is an overreaction from me but nevertheless felt disrespectful. Mindset change perhaps?” After that i got up and here is where i fumbled -> i started playing with my phone for a bit and everybody just became silent. One of the girls was really engaged with me and i told her what’s your instagram literally infront of the girl who i approached like 5 mins ago she writes it down and doesn’t follow me (discovered that later,but from here downhill) i started saying that i have to go after that, and said bye to everybody, and then said bye to the girl i approached she started eying me up and down. I then left.

This by far has been the most irrational & illogical move i have ever done with women. Clearly the woman i approached was interested because she let the conversation go on + let me speak to her friends. I however ****ed myself up after that chair thing.

My question DJ’s is how do you handle such fumbles? How do you prevent them from happening?
 

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Honestly, your "Go get a new chair" sounds like some of the old PUA advice I've read, like where they switch places with the girl so as to make themselves the center of the group. But I would say don't be a ****, and you won't have to recover from it.
 

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Honestly, your "Go get a new chair" sounds like some of the old PUA advice I've read, like where they switch places with the girl so as to make themselves the center of the group. But I would say don't be a ****, and you won't have to recover from it.
I don’t understand what you mean? Don’t be an as8hole is what you meant? Like should i have gotten my own chair?
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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There are so many ways to recover from this without being dismissive. Even "You can sit in my lap" would be better than telling her to get a new chair.
Bro i fumbled because i was smoking weed, i just really got shocked and replied without even thinking.
 

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I don’t understand what you mean? Don’t be an as8hole is what you meant? Like should i have gotten my own chair?
Stupid censor. I meant don't be a d!ck.
Like I said, old school PUAs would have loved you stealing her chair, but obviously you regret that move. So yeah, I would have gotten my own chair. I would rather lose the girl than be a jack@ss though. A lot of guys here would likely disagree with that, but it didn't work out for you. Of course, it might not have worked out the other way either. Anyway, the chair's unimportant (except that maybe it p!ssed her off). I think your real mistake is you didn't even try to get her number.
 

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Don't smoke herb before sarging OP. Only in a isolated location with the girl when she's down to get some action.
 

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Man , I gotta say you have no idea how to be playful. How do you take offense/take such a small thing so seriously? You like this girl, -this girl is not a highschool jock telling you to get out of that chair.

If it was me in the situation, I wouldn't have said anything at first and just smiled .. and if she said it again, I'd be like, I got a better seat for you-- "where?" on my lap.. When people go to bars or parties, they are looking to have fun. It's very likely she was sitting ther ebut more than that she probably wanted to engage in conversation with you.

Recently I was vacuuming the inside of my daily driver (which is just an SUV, nothing fancy), and I wasn't paying attention to this girl who pulled up to use the spot next to me which has its own vacuum..(they hang off of some overhang downwards)..After a bit I got the feeling she was paying attention to me.. but I was still focused on cleaning my car, detailing it nicely.. I went back to grab the vacuum for some parts I missed but as I turn I seen she blatantly took my vacuum (whichis between her car and mine but each spot has its own on the right side)-- and I could already tell why she did it.. She wanted to strike a conversation. Turns out I was right since after I told her- shse like oh I didnt know there was another one (but she did because she was using it the whole time). as I got near done, I struck up a convo with her and she later admitted she just did that to talk to me. I acted like I didnt know but It wasn't rocket science.. I already knew.

A smile and a cute little flirtacion goes a long way.. Yes, you fumbled this and I think she wsas interested and had told everyone, hence why people started acting weird when you got mad and defensive. Good luck in the future homie.

P.S. The more I spend time on heree and read other peoples posts, I realize man this place is not an ideal forum to ask men questions. ALot of these dudes are clueless.. Just hit my DM's like some of these intelligent gentleman do. I'm always down to help people out.. I get pretty lengthy in my responses sometimes so you can pickup alot of knowledge.
 

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It sounded like you got mad, and if this was perceived by me it was probably perceived by the group.

Dating, flirting, bars, talking to women etc should be about having fun, being playful and not taking yourself too seriously. It sounded like you got offended and killed the vibe.
 

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OP, I think this was low interest. Her body language showed it, she told you she had to go. Sometimes girls cave(took you to meet her friends)because it's the path of least resistance and they don't want to upset and cause a problem. What else was she going to say that was more pleasant than NO?

Also there's a dynamic called competition anxiety. Sometimes when one girl sees you with another it increases your value as was the likely the case here with the first girl.

When that happens you play your cards right down the middle. Flirt with both. Always keep it light and fun and you will keep yourself in the game.
 

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@anour you can stop tagging everyone, if they're interested they'll see your thread, if they're not they'll still see your thread and just ignore it.
 
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