Are Men & Women Equal?

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An ugly woman can still compete with a Chad for attention. There was this loud and ugly girl at my HS and the running joke was that she probably still had more sex than most of the guys lol.

Having a lot of sex for a women is not a good thing; in other words, people were laughing at this girl not with her. If you were a girl, you will start to feel "used" if you don't get commitment. The ability for a girl to put out is not a strength for a woman.
 

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We are meant to be complimentary.

I agree with what you're saying here. But unless I'm misinterpreting what you've outlined, it provides examples for a Yes answer not the No you've given.
The way I see it; as much as men are more capable at everything, we're nothing without having women as the essential driving force/motivation of life. Making us completely even.
 

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Women's greatest strength: the ability to have child
Men's greatest strength: the ability to protect the family (resources, determination, being rational, etc.. etc.. etc..)
That is her role in reproduction but her greatest strength is her ability to manipulate powerful men into doing what she wants.
 

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An ugly woman can still compete with a Chad for attention. There was this loud and ugly girl at my HS and the running joke was that she probably still had more sex than most of the guys lol.
She can compete with sex but they will mostly be of the pump and dump variety and not relationships. Chads have relationships with hot women waiting for them whenever they want.
 

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That is her role in reproduction but her greatest strength is her ability to manipulate powerful men into doing what she wants.
Genghis khan disagrees.. he has many, many descendants. Many other great men throughout history also disagree.

But one thing these powerful men cannot do is create/birth babies. Men created the world, woman populate it.
 

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Genghis khan disagrees.. he has many, many descendants. Many other great men throughout history also disagree.

But one thing these powerful men cannot do is create/birth babies. Men created the world, woman populate it.
Helen of Troy agrees as she started a war between countries.

So does Cleopatra who manipulated Roman leaders with her beauty to bring great wealth to Egypt.

History is fraught with many such stories.

As for Ghengis Khan, while he was away fighting and conquering for years at a time, who do you think ran the Empire while he was gone? His Wife, Börte, that's who.

 

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Yes, different sides of the same coin. Both genders compliment one another - neither is necessarily better than the other.

If you view things from the perspective of brute force & strength (which a lot of the "macho men" do), sure women are inferior. Funnily enough the weakest, frailest looking women is savvy and cunning enough to ruin a lot of these so called strong tough guys. They don't need to use any physicality whatsoever to dominate a lot of these schlubs. Look at the state of men today; they tell us women are going to college in record numbers, getting a lot of the good white collar jobs, becoming entrepreneurs etc. The guys? Well they are playing video games and withdrawing from society because they weren't hugged enough as children, lololol
 
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Helen of Troy agrees as she started a war between countries.

So does Cleopatra who manipulated Roman leaders with her beauty to bring great wealth to Egypt.

History is fraught with many such stories.

As for Ghengis Khan, while he was away fighting and conquering for years at a time, who do you think ran the Empire while he was gone? His Wife, Börte, that's who.

If you think women ran things, I don't know what to tell you. They were sexual objects. Their job was to be prizes that great men get to have sex with. However, at the end of the day, it was about power. It was about controlling people. Ruling people. Do you think Borte controlled how many sexual partners Ghengis Khan had? Or do you think Cleopatra dictated who and when those Roman leaders were able to ravish and have sex with? hell no, women couldn't even vote at the time. How about Helen of Troy? Did she dictate who can "have her"? No, it was the winners. She didn't have a choice. Women were sex objects and that was it. In the past, there wasn't room for error. Error meant death. For women, not finding winners meant not having resources, starvation, shivering in the cold and dying of hypothermia; or getting murdered.

Men conquered. Women had sex with the winners; or they were forced to have sex with the winners and then burned at the stake. They had a choice. However, evolution dictated that women who did not die, reproduced so ultimately, as time progressed, a lot of women grew to love the "dark triad".

Don't believe in the feminist bullcrud. "Woman who ran the mongol empire". What a piece of garbage. IIRC, during ghenis time, if you wanted to get a wife, you had to raid the neighboring tribe and steal a bride. That was the custom. Ghengis did that and stole borte.. He was about to consumate the marriage, but then another tribe stole Borte away from Ghengis. However, at this time Temujin wasn't Ghengis yet. He was just another nomand. It wasn't until a week or two later, Ghengis was able to steal back borte. However, a lot of people said that Borte already had sex with her kidnappers. This was the way of Ghengis time. "Woman who ran the mongol empire". Spare me the feminist propaganda. Now did Borte help Ghengis? Yes, but at the end of the day, there was only one Ghengis Khan. His empire was run using a meritocracy. Something that was new in the area. In the past it was based on clans, lineage, who's parents you had, etc.. Ghengis empire was a meritocracy. He didn't care about your religion, your clan, or your race. You had to produce. Yes, there were women helping run Ghengis empire, but it was 99.9% men.. or more. Women were basically a rounding error. Women had kids - they couldn't help with the empire. Tampons weren't invented yet, so a good portion of a month, they were bleeding; most jobs were tough manual labor -- women were weak and effective tools weren't invented yet. Building roads -- men. Building shelter -- men; raising animals -- men, etc... etc...

Ghengis would have succeed anyways. Yeah, I read a lot about Ghengis. Borte was with him when he was just another starving nomad. Ghengis had a soft spot for her, because she was not waiting at the finish line. While he was having intercourse, with hundreds and thousands of other beautiful women, Borte was still his main squeeze and she helped him produce a lot of gifted sons that help him rule his empire. She could of went away with the raiding party that stole her away from Ghengis, but she didn't. She was there from the very beginning of Temujin's life... later to become Ghengis..
 
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"Are men and men equal? No? Then how can women and men be equal?"

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I think that the current society prioritizes women and women's needs, and treats men as expendable. So no, we are not equal.

I also disagree with the use of examples - Genghis Khan was probably the highest status male for his era, we need to compare the average modern day female against the average male. A battle in which the regular guy gets destroyed in most metrics that matter.
 
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Ghengis empire was a meritocracy. He didn't care about your religion, your clan, or your race. You had to produce. Yes, there were women helping run Ghengis empire, but it was 99.9% men.. or more. Women were basically a rounding error.
his empire literally split up after his death between his four sons.
 
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The question is non-sensical.
Are men and women equal? No.
Should men and women be treated as equal in value as human beings? Yes.
 

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Should men and women be treated as equal in value as human beings? Yes.
But we aren’t. Biologically, men are more useful and women are more valuable. The species dies out without women surviving long enough to carry and raise the next generation. Women die without the protection of man. It is the order of things.
 

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But we aren’t. Biologically, men are more useful and women are more valuable. The species dies out without women surviving long enough to carry and raise the next generation. Women die without the protection of man. It is the order of things.
Why does a woman need protection from a man when something called a Glock exists? Lets say you are positioned to live in a dangerous area for an extended amount of time. Is your first inclination to protect yourself is to go to the gym and start maxing out your bench press or to invest in other things such as a security system, self-defense weapons, local safety awareness tips, and etc?
 
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But we aren’t. Biologically, men are more useful and women are more valuable. The species dies out without women surviving long enough to carry and raise the next generation. Women die without the protection of man. It is the order of things.
Your reading comprehension needs some work.
 

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Why do you suppose you never see women pouring concrete, building highways, or framing houses? You don't need strength to do those jobs. And I don't see any "You Go Girl"support groups promoting the idea either. Lol.

Why are most surgeons and engineers male? Ohh yeah the media tells you because women weren't given equal opportunity. Lol

Women have tasks they are mentally suited for, men have theirs.

Brains work totally different. As an engineer for 20yrs I never met a single female engineer that impressed me. They just aren't cut out for it mentally

There's a reason God made them pretty, and nurturing.
 

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Equal as human beings that deserve respect, yes, equal in terms of capability, no, we differ greatly. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
 

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Why do you suppose you never see women pouring concrete, building highways, or framing houses? You don't need strength to do those jobs. And I don't see any "You Go Girl"support groups promoting the idea either. Lol.

Why are most surgeons and engineers male? Ohh yeah the media tells you because women weren't given equal opportunity. Lol
Why don't we see men on Only Fans, Hooters waitresses, Brand Ambassadors, Modeling, and etc? Yes there's roles that cater to just pure youthful men, but there's also jobs that cater to youthful females too. Both of these jobs require youth and become harder to do as you age. I have dated plenty of female engineers that did well at their job and I am in the healthcare profession that interact with plenty of doctors including surgeons and I don't see a gender bias outside job performance.
 
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