Let's Be Real Here Pt.4 - "GAME" alone cannot create physical attraction

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Most likely she liked you physically but she did not see a future with a guy like for various reasons

I talked with a girl, who told me that she didn't want to have kids with a short man, because then her children would be short too.

 

[Bigpapa]

I talked with a girl, who told me that she didn't want to have kids with a short man, because then her children would be short too.

I really doubt that she would sleep with you but not date you

Or in the case you mentioned that she would have only slept with a guy if she thought he is short

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I really doubt that she would sleep with you but not date you

I'm not the short man in question (I'm 190cm tall), but I was taken aback by her insistence of avoiding short men for fatherhood.

 

[Bigpapa]

I'm not the short man in question (I'm 190cm tall), but I was taken aback by her insistence of avoiding short men for fatherhood.

I am not saying that some girls are not like that ( especially short girls - I guess the girl in question is short too - ), but for sure you can not only have sex with a girl that thinks like that ( she would f8ck the short guy but not date him )

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Depends on the girl. one of my longest LTRs was with a girl my height (5’6”-7”ish). We went so far as to start naming our potential kids.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I am not saying that some girls are not like that ( especially short girls - I guess the girl in question is short too - ), but for sure you can not only have sex with a girl that thinks like that ( she would f8ck the short guy but not date him )

I had sex with her first, then told her that I wouldn't consider her as a partner, because she probably came from short stock.

 

[BadBoy89]

More like "Height and looks are amplifiers. The more you have of them, the less of everything else you would need. And vice-versa"

Agree with first part of statement, Don’t agree with the “vice-versa” part.

A man can have a lot of money, if he doesn’t pass the height threshold, she won’t look at him.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

More like "Height and looks are amplifiers. The more you have of them, the less of everything else you would need. And vice-versa"

I've posted a video of a Tinder/Instagram Chad four pages ago, who literally has no game. And his dating life seems ok.

Doesn't mean that a normal/a bit above normal guy should give up. It means that you should pick your targets more carefully and realistically, and put more work into building yourself up.

Then shouldn't all posts have the disclaimer: "Get tall first. If you are not tall all the other advice given is garbage"

https://nypost.com/2016/12/30/science-says-these-are-the-men-who-will-make-you-orgasm/. Key quote: ‘while the intensity of their orgasms also depended on how good-looking their man is.’. Ultimately. women want to cvm & cvm hard. A handsome man, Not a Tall man, is the key to her nuclear Orgasms. (of course. If you’re tall & handsome -welcome to paradise).

 

[devilkingx2]

Face>Height
There are tall incels. There are no handsome incels.

That's definitely not true, Elliot Rodgers was famously a handsome incel.

He's a good example of the importance of game, you can pull defeat from the jaws of victory by saying/doing the wrong things even if you're wealthy and handsome.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

That's definitely not true, Elliot Rodgers was famously a handsome incel.

He's a good example of the importance of game, you can pull defeat from the jaws of victory by saying/doing the wrong things even if you're wealthy and handsome.

ER Handsome???
Well. I certainly agree that incompetent game can be disastrous. Even if one is great in other aspects.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

There are no such things as "game".

What we consider "game" is that set of skills that is the result of your physicall attractiveness and the feedbacks it gets you, the life experiences you had both in terms of actions and successes while in some part the direct knowledge you aquired from studies or general experiences not necessarily related to women.

This is why the advice about "being more confident" or "step up your game" is a non sense for most men struggling.

Attraction however, natural genuine attraction is biologically driven not socially driven.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

There are no such things as "game".

What we consider "game" is that set of skills that is the result of your physicall attractiveness and the feedbacks it gets you, the life experiences you had both in terms of actions and successes while in some part the direct knowledge you aquired from studies or general experiences not necessarily related to women.

This is why the advice about "being more confident" or "step up your game" is a non sense for most men struggling.

Attraction however, natural genuine attraction is biologically driven not socially driven.

wasn’t it Rollo who said something like ‘attraction is non-negotiable’?

 

[devilkingx2]

And by "GAME" I mean all verbal, text and behavioral methods used to famoose a woman into either a date, sex, relationship and so on.

Game is important for a woman, to see that the guy is not a social retard and has had experience. However, it alone cannot spark physical attraction, which is important both in a ONS and in a 20 year marriage (the lack of which would result in a "dead bedroom")

I once won all the girls at my workplace over with my charisma, and then when new girls were hired they were immediately interested in me because I had a ton of social proof from being well liked by so many women.

But then when disaster struck and my reputation took a nosedive due to drama, suddenly none of the girls even wanted to call me their friend.

It's possible that this was due to me being absurdly handsome. But I would personally attribute it to good game (charisma) causing me to have a ton of social proof in an enclosed environment until it all went wrong.

 

[AttackFormation]

I once won all the girls at my workplace over with my charisma, and then when new girls were hired they were immediately interested in me because I had a ton of social proof from being well liked by so many women.

But then when disaster struck and my reputation took a nosedive due to drama, suddenly none of the girls even wanted to call me their friend.

It's possible that this was due to me being absurdly handsome. But I would personally attribute it to good game (charisma) causing me to have a ton of social proof in an enclosed environment until it all went wrong.

What went wrong?

 

[devilkingx2]

What went wrong?

One of the girls suddenly turned against me. She literally overnight decided that she was so offended by something I said or did that we were now enemies. Then one of the other girls immediately took her side without question because they were friends for years and the whole thing spiraled into a cluster **** from there.

I got out of there ASAP after that, writing was on the walls. To this day I'm still not 100% clear what this unforgivable sin that I committed was. Nobody ever really filled me in on the full details, and the rumors I heard were full of blatant lies.

 

[Smooth_texter]

https://nypost.com/2016/12/30/science-says-these-are-the-men-who-will-make-you-orgasm/. Key quote: ‘while the intensity of their orgasms also depended on how good-looking their man is.’. Ultimately. women want to cvm & cvm hard. A handsome man, Not a Tall man, is the key to her nuclear Orgasms. (of course. If you’re tall & handsome -welcome to paradise).

Seems that women are pretty much like us guys - the more they are attracted to a partner, the more pleasure they get out of the sex.

There is a paragraph from the article that I do not agree with: " Researchers also found that it really is possible to laugh a woman into bed — with women having more regular sex, and more frequent orgasms, with funny men. " Being a funny beta male, contrary to what this article says, won't persuade women into having s*x.

 

[Smooth_texter]

There are no such things as "game".

What we consider "game" is that set of skills that is the result of your physicall attractiveness and the feedbacks it gets you, the life experiences you had both in terms of actions and successes while in some part the direct knowledge you aquired from studies or general experiences not necessarily related to women.

This is why the advice about "being more confident" or "step up your game" is a non sense for most men struggling.

Attraction however, natural genuine attraction is biologically driven not socially driven.

Yes, a woman is either attracted or not.

Unfortunately, there is a whole industry built around "GAME" and life coaching (PUAs, even female ones), who are telling guys that any woman can be sedussed with specific lines or order of lines.

We can also see in the threads here many posters that are confused why a certain pick up line/method from a coach or a good looking friend did not work.

 

[Mike32ct]

Being a funny beta male, contrary to what this article says, won't persuade women into having s*x.

Yup. ST, one thing I used to talk about on here was the following…

Years ago, the ONS bar/club pickups I observed in the field were fairly serious in nature. The guy’s conversation with the chick was fairly dry or businesslike in tone before they’d leave together. I really didn’t see many funny guys successfully using humor to pull.

Notwithstanding, there are cases where the chick is super attracted and just giggling out of sexual tension even when the guy clearly isn’t trying to be funny. But that’s different. That would be looks rather than humor driven.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Yup. ST, one thing I used to talk about on here was the following…

Years ago, the ONS bar/club pickups I observed in the field were fairly serious in nature. The guy’s conversation with the chick was fairly dry or businesslike in tone before they’d leave together. I really didn’t see many funny guys successfully using humor to pull.

Notwithstanding, there are cases where the chick is super attracted and just giggling out of sexual tension even when the guy clearly isn’t trying to be funny. But that’s different. That would be looks rather than humor driven.

Are funny people sexy ... or are sexy people funny? | Dean Burnett

Dean Burnett: Humour is often considered a very attractive trait in a potential partner. But does the science support this?

www.theguardian.com

 

[AttackFormation]

Seems that women are pretty much like us guys - the more they are attracted to a partner, the more pleasure they get out of the sex.

There is a paragraph from the article that I do not agree with: " Researchers also found that it really is possible to laugh a woman into bed — with women having more regular sex, and more frequent orgasms, with funny men. " Being a funny beta male, contrary to what this article says, won't persuade women into having s*x.

I dont know but suspect this is because of the halo effect, which they dont seem to have controlled for, which is why i stopped reading.