Yea, but not all are quality men. This is why you can indirectly approach women and stand out. And if you wanna argue there are a lot of quality men out there, you might as well argue she isn't single.
Here's how to approach women in bikinis on the beach.
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Hamurabimbi
Master Don Juan
Women do cold approach.
Serenity
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I'd like to see you drop a $20 bill behind a dude, run to his side and say "scuse me sir, can't believe you just walked past a $20 bill and didn't notice it".
I'd also like to see you walk up to a dude at the beach and say "scuse me sir, there was a few dudes that took pics of you. Did you catch them?".
There's nothing normal about this and I also find the insincerity of it distasteful, so will anyone should you get caught in your trickery. The truth about these deceptive tactics is simply that you lack the balls to shamelessly be a man who obviously is interested in women, just like most dudes out there. You want to stand out? Be honest and direct, it's getting rarer and more valuable by the day.
I'm totally convinced you have minimal, if any practical experience with these tips and talking purely from a theoretical standpoint. You're not getting dates and lays from doing that, you're just getting a 10 second audience only to never see them again. Get your d!ck wet by doing this, prove it and then we'll talk.
Yes, there's times I can say to a man you dropped your wallet.
This could work if women were taking pics of them too.
If it overlaps with being corny, it's not worth it.
With that said, the whole "I'm ___, what's your name?" I figure is better to use on women that are fully clothed.
Now I'm at a disadvantage from coming from a large city. I suspect the average person here is from a much smaller environment.
The girl at the beach could have already seen you at the grocery store but didn't care to do anything. Then, at the beach, she sees you catch up to her to say she passed a $20 bill on the ground.
What could happen the next time she sees you at the local grocery store, or wherever? She could potentially remember you. She could approach you and go "So did I pass another $20 bill on the floor this time?"
So, that means the beach thing was worth it if it led to this. So, this is an example of where you stand out from other guys.
Keep in mind a lot of women are big horoscope and big karma people. The fact that a guy will tell her that she passed a $20 bill, she could think the stars are aligned in the right way...
AureliusMaximus
Master Don Juan
Yes, but rarely.
And they can do that more often if you give them a reason to.
Including tricking them into approaching you too.
Well this is interesting. Not that this has to do with anything. Note the url ends in t=229s meaning video starts at 3:49. Guy interviews random women why don't they approach men. I find it interesting, the 1s that answered the question, answered it to the extent the guy is in a group of guys. Which means, women are not wired to answer the question regarding solo guys. Intresting.
Edit: so a research question to ask women, is would you rather approach a guy who is by himself, or who is with a group?
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Serenity
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Then I'll make sure to avoid your tricks like the plague, these types of women are also batsh!t crazy and I'd rather know how to repel these witches.
Once me and a pua friend were talking about openers. We were walking on the street and it was very loud.
So I heard him say to me 'what is the difference between being in love and falling in love'?
So I started to talk about the difference and a bit later I realized what he actually said was: 'I use the opener what is the difference between being in love and falling in love'.
I thought that must be a very good opener if even I fell for it.
So I heard him say to me 'what is the difference between being in love and falling in love'?
So I started to talk about the difference and a bit later I realized what he actually said was: 'I use the opener what is the difference between being in love and falling in love'.
I thought that must be a very good opener if even I fell for it.
IKO69
Master Don Juan
In truth it really doesn't matter. We can mull over the perfect line for the situation and approach it several ways (which the different responses have indicated). Going over and just flat out saying Hey I just wanted to say Hi to you and following up with something else can be just as effective as some witty line. If she finds the man handsome and is available, the hardest part is already done (you saying something to her), she'll move things along. If she has no interest whatsoever, the line could've been smooth as silk and delivered with the utmost confidence - she's not gonna give af and will look to eject as soon as possible.
Myself, I usually try to come up with something related to the particular situation we find ourselves in but admittedly there is no need for this. It's just my style.
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An example: the other day I was in line waiting to play the lottery. This woman got in line behind me, she had some scratch tickets in her hand. I turned to her, pointed at the tickets and asked if she was millionaire. She started laughing, said no and then we had a small chat. She was older than me, like 50's, so wasn't interested in that way, was just trying to make conversation since we were both in line. This type of thing I would do if she was younger and I found myself attracted to her though. You have to "Play to win" as they say.
Myself, I usually try to come up with something related to the particular situation we find ourselves in but admittedly there is no need for this. It's just my style.
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An example: the other day I was in line waiting to play the lottery. This woman got in line behind me, she had some scratch tickets in her hand. I turned to her, pointed at the tickets and asked if she was millionaire. She started laughing, said no and then we had a small chat. She was older than me, like 50's, so wasn't interested in that way, was just trying to make conversation since we were both in line. This type of thing I would do if she was younger and I found myself attracted to her though. You have to "Play to win" as they say.
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Unfortunately almost all women have this tendency. The only women that aren't are women like Ayn Rand or physics professors, etc.
Here's a story: 1 time I was at the airport early, decided to just sit in front of a beautiful women at a terminal that wasn't mine. After I sat down, she later looked at me and said "you dropped your wallet." So I looked down below my seat in between my legs and found a wallet and said oh whops, thanks. And took it. I later waited a few mins after she left, to go leave the area and count the money in...
So yes, you can do this kind of sht to women too if they can't prove you implanted the $20...
Serenity
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Tell me, how women have you actually been with?
You continue to ignore my point, the fact that you're using deception to force an artificial encounter instead of being confident enough to just go talk to women. Dropping a $20 bill to make an excuse to talk to a woman is just sad.
Good deflecting post, and I don't mind deflecting with you. But a lot of this knowledge comes from watching women post on social media as well as listening women talk among themselves. Unfortunately very few women out there will post articles on atheism.
But here's a type of women who are heavily not into horoscopes and Zodiacs: Jewish women.
No, I don't see it that way. If I want to talk to women about X, I'll go talk to women about X.
If I want to talk to women about X, I'm not going to "I'm ____, btw" to talk about X.
And if I did the $20 prank to women, I don't have intention to talk to women about X. That's the difference. My intention is the $20 only. It's called, imprinting women, and giving them a dose of myself. Sometimes, you spit game to women, for no reason. Women love amazing coincidences.
Serenity
Moderator
So little to no practical experience...
So now you're getting it? Btw, I never pushed the idea of having to introduce yourself first, that's entirely your misinterpretation of what I meant.
Imprinting women? The hell are you on about? They'll leave shortly after and not give a fvck about you within the next 10 seconds. Sounds like you're only imprinting yourself with the idea that you made a ripple in their lives...
From your specific criteria. There's plenty of other criteria to know something about something. I could have done all sorts of experiments with women in my life and specialize in. It's being the far-side observer.
Did I imply order? Because, no where in my idea would I ever make the "I'm ___."
Yes, giving women a dose of myself. A girl could have dated 2 guys a day apart and each guy can have their pros and cons.
Here's another example of my scenario. The #1 question I ask women, is about their physique. Whenever I see women walking around in tank tops or have their belly exposed, my most common line is "Oh you muscular. You workout?" Then, I ask "How many push-ups can you do?" And if they say they dunno, then I ask "What's the most you ever done?" And I usually end it with "You look like you beatup some guys before" (at least for Hispanic girls).
And then after that, unless they ask me something, I leave.
I don't need to do the "I'm ____, by the way."
Serenity
Moderator
Fine, nowhere did I push the idea of having to introduce yourself at any point, I still don't know why you're trying to use this misinterpretation as an argument against me. It's a strawman.
Sure, you can know something about something just from being an observer, but in my experience a lot of that turns out to be worthless when put into practice. Some of the most important lessons you will only learn by doing.
But this is talking to women. I'm just not using the "I'm ____." I'm not saying you use that specific line. (I apologize if I implied you use that line.). It would be as much confident to talk this to women as talk that to women, no? The difference is, I end this conversation quick. You can call it leading. Some men will end a convo after 20 questions, some men will end after 3 questions (like asking how many push-ups women can do). And I call this imprinting because if I see same women at another location another month, I can do a different tactic.
Anyways, as you originally said.
Looks like you want to deflect that because I'm an incel, then whatever I say cannot be qualified. Seems like you just want to cover your ears, and go "Naa na na na na, I can't hear you,"
Serenity
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Not necessarily an incel, but I won't respect someone who doesn't walk the talk and actually gets results.
I'm not trying to deflect, I asked because as a guy with experience it's obvious to me that you live in a world of theory without getting sex on a regular basis.
No experience with "sex with women" as opposed to no experience with conversations with women. This is about conversations/interactions with women.
Serenity
Moderator
The vast majority of guys on this forum would prefer if those conversations eventually resulted in sex and/or relationship. Any idiot can can plainly converse with a woman for a minute or two. If your approach strategy eventually resulted in sex with at least some of these women, then we're talking. Have you ever applied your own advice and later ended up fvcking them because of it? If not, then what's your advice worth? Nothing I would say, you're just another guy blowing hot air based on theory.
I wasn't talking about experience with "sex with women", I was talking about experience with going from that initial approach at the beach and to the bed. Dropping $20's isn't going to yield you results anyone cares about. The first few seconds of an approach doesn't even matter anyways if you don't know how to carry it the rest of the way.