Body language, IOI’s, women & interference

[anour]

DJ’s

i’ve just picked up this girl at the gym, spoke a little, setup the date and we on for it. I see her again when leaving, we started smoking and then some guys who i speak to in the gym “small-talk” started asking us why are you smoking after the gym and some basic nonsense, i kept calm and started saying it gives you the best shock cause your body has blood flowing, and then gave em a stare till they left. Is my reaction right?

Plus on the first and 2nd interaction with the girl, she never showed me a body language IOI like a hair flick or something like that? Is that bad or i am just overthinking it? Do some girls not show body-language interest signs? Some context when i asked her if she was dating, she said “it’s complicated” to which i replied “i wanna uncomplicate things” and still setup the date and took the number.

 

[anour]

@We_ArE_VeNOM @BillyPilgrim @Dr.Suave @RazorRambo24 @stringpuller @ManlyMan

 

[anour]

@Gamisch @BPH @Jesse Pinkman

 

[Bigpapa]

DJ’s

i’ve just picked up this girl at the gym, spoke a little, setup the date and we on for it. I see her again when leaving, we started smoking and then some guys who i speak to in the gym “small-talk” started asking us why are you smoking after the gym and some basic nonsense, i kept calm and started saying it gives you the best shock cause your body has blood flowing, and then gave em a stare till they left. Is my reaction right?

Plus on the first and 2nd interaction with the girl, she never showed me a body language IOI like a hair flick or something like that? Is that bad or i am just overthinking it? Do some girls not show body-language interest signs? Some context when i asked her if she was dating, she said “it’s complicated” to which i replied “i wanna uncomplicate things” and still setup the date and took the number.

compliance > IOIs

if she is compliant do not overthink it, otherwise you will f8ck it up

 

[anour]

compliance > IOIs

if she is compliant do not overthink it, otherwise you will f8ck it up

Iron claud rule? What do you think about the guys, did i handle it good or should i have been doing it better or done something else?

 

[Bigpapa]

Iron claud rule? What do you think about the guys, did i handle it good or should i have been doing it better or done something else?

no, too much of an eager beaver

But this is not necessarily a thing that will ruin your chance

focus On the compliance and see where it goes. Do not overthink it

 

[anour]

no, too much of an eager beaver

But this is not necessarily a thing that will ruin your chance

focus On the compliance and see where it goes. Do not overthink it

Wdym eager beaver?

 

[Bigpapa]

Wdym eager beaver?

way too direct in interest shown, when she did not showed you anything worthwhile

—she said “it’s complicated” to which i replied “i wanna uncomplicate things”—

That is high school game, but again it does not necessarily mean that it is something wrong from the get go. Depends on how much she likes you from the get go

 

[anour]

way too direct in interest shown, when she did not showed you anything worthwhile

—she said “it’s complicated” to which i replied “i wanna uncomplicate things”—

That is high school game, but again it does not necessarily mean that it is something wrong from the get go. Depends on how much she likes you from the get go

What would you have replied to that?
I setted a gym date with her wedensday so that’s supposed to be good

 

[BillyPilgrim]

What would you have replied to that?
I setted a gym date with her wedensday so that’s supposed to be good

Life is complicated, it's a complicated world, etc. You put yourself in the position where you have to make an effort (to "uncomplicate things") which sets her up as the prize

This girl may be a masculine girl, which is why she isn't flipping her hair but is at the gym. A gym is also a bad date idea, might as well go chopping down trees. You want to be relaxed and only exert yourself physically if you're having sex.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

DJ’s

i’ve just picked up this girl at the gym, spoke a little, setup the date and we on for it.

Sorry, gotta give some tough love here.

Because I can already tell you ain't gonna listen to what I've been telling you.

Assuming you have her number, you aren't even planning to go Mode One on her before the date?

Let me guess, you are just happy to have a date set up and don't want to do anything to fuk it up, right?

Beta, beta, beta.

I see her again when leaving, we started smoking and then some guys who i speak to in the gym “small-talk” started asking us why are you smoking after the gym and some basic nonsense, i kept calm and started saying it gives you the best shock cause your body has blood flowing, and then gave em a stare till they left. Is my reaction right?

Depends on the vibe and how they came at you.

Was it lighthearted, or was it some extra sh!t?

Plus on the first and 2nd interaction with the girl, she never showed me a body language IOI like a hair flick or something like that?

This goes to show that...

1. Not every woman will give you choosing signals (as I've been saying).

2. Approach women regardless of whether she gives you choosing signals (as I've been saying).

Wow, a real-life example of a person outside myself proving my talking points to be true, after all.

Is that bad or i am just overthinking it? Do some girls not show body-language interest signs? Some context when i asked her if she was dating, she said “it’s complicated” to which i replied “i wanna uncomplicate things” and still setup the date and took the number.

Dude, this is low-level sensationalism.

Whether or not choosing signals (IOIs) is required/needed has been discussed, not only on other members' threads but even on your own threads.

The only one complicating things is you.

It is simple.

A. Do not rely solely on choosing signals.

B. But if you pick up on choosing signals, take it.

C. Approach women regardless of whether they give choosing signals.

The bottom line is, any woman you find attractive, approach her.

Don't wait for fukin choosing signals.

Obviously, you acknowledge that the woman gave you no choosing signals and you still got her number, then that answers your question on whether any signals were needed for you to get the job done.

So your own experience answers your question for you, so why come on here asking questions about what your personal experience provided the answer to?

Then you ask "is it bad", despite getting the number.

Why in the fuk would it be bad if in the end, you got the number?

Makes no sense, and much to do about nothing.

 

[RazorRambo24]

What would you have replied to that?
I setted a gym date with her wedensday so that’s supposed to be good

I disagree with Bigpapa and some of these other dudes.. I think it was a good thing to say. Straight to the point. and then you set up a date. You already got the date setup. Now we think forward. No need to overanalyze like some are.

When girls tell me they have a boyfriend my go to is "How long have you had that problem?" Its key to smile to let her know you're jus being playful otherwise she might respond like "its not a problem" or something standoffish. If they say "its complicated" , I say something ismilar like "Well let me make it less complicated, take down my number". if they dont hand me their phone, I already know it will be a waste of time, if they do hand me their phone, i make sure to call my number so i can have theirs.

The thing you said about smoking is cringe though.

 

[BPH]

You set up a date for Wednesday? Why? It's the weekend...

 

[anour]

Life is complicated, it's a complicated world, etc. You put yourself in the position where you have to make an effort (to "uncomplicate things") which sets her up as the prize

This girl may be a masculine girl, which is why she isn't flipping her hair but is at the gym. A gym is also a bad date idea, might as well go chopping down trees. You want to be relaxed and only exert yourself physically if you're having sex.

So you don’t agree with compliance > IOI’s

 

[anour]

I disagree with Bigpapa and some of these other dudes.. I think it was a good thing to say. Straight to the point. and then you set up a date. You already got the date setup. Now we think forward. No need to overanalyze like some are.

When girls tell me they have a boyfriend my go to is "How long have you had that problem?" Its key to smile to let her know you're jus being playful otherwise she might respond like "its not a problem" or something standoffish. If they say "its complicated" , I say something ismilar like "Well let me make it less complicated, take down my number". if they dont hand me their phone, I already know it will be a waste of time, if they do hand me their phone, i make sure to call my number so i can have theirs.

The thing you said about smoking is cringe though.

You set up a date for Wednesday? Why? It's the weekend...

i thought she’d be busy this weekend, regardless i got other **** to do this weekend, so i said wedensday. And 2nd date will be upfollowing weekend.

 

[Bigpapa]

I disagree with Bigpapa and some of these other dudes.. I think it was a good thing to say. Straight to the point. and then you set up a date. You already got the date setup. Now we think forward. No need to overanalyze like some are.

When girls tell me they have a boyfriend my go to is "How long have you had that problem?" Its key to smile to let her know you're jus being playful otherwise she might respond like "its not a problem" or something standoffish. If they say "its complicated" , I say something ismilar like "Well let me make it less complicated, take down my number". if they dont hand me their phone, I already know it will be a waste of time, if they do hand me their phone, i make sure to call my number so i can have theirs.

The thing you said about smoking is cringe though.

it is very likely to be a bad thing, especially when you show her that you like her more than she likes you. She will think that she is over your league, otherwise why would you like her more than she likes you

plus, he did not qualify her… which shows that he just acted on how she looks like rather than how she is as a person. Another thing that suggests that she is above his league

qualification is maybe one of the strongest thing that a guy has

 

[Dr.Suave]

Spin more plates. Dont overthink, dont overanalyze. Keep it simple. Try to actually enjoy the date.

 

[anour]

it is very likely to be a bad thing, especially when you show her that you like her more than she likes you. She will think that she is over your league, otherwise why would you like her more than she likes you

plus, he did not qualify her… which shows that he just acted on how she looks like rather than how she is as a person. Another thing that suggests that she is above his league

qualification is maybe one of the strongest thing that a guy has

More context, when i initiated convo she said she goes to gym 5 times a week, i was like you get +1 point on my scale, if you get 3 points we get to go out on a date. I framed it as i am the prize my guy.

 

[Bigpapa]

More context, when i initiated convo she said she goes to gym 5 times a week, i was like you get +1 point on my scale, if you get 3 points we get to go out on a date. I framed it as i am the prize my guy.

high school game from your end

unless she is not really attracted to you, this type of games does not leads anywhere

 

[anour]

high school game from your end

unless she is not really attracted to you, this type of games does not leads anywhere

How can you level up your verbal game then?