Most men fail during the pre selection stage

[RazorRambo24]

I keep noticing this more often since I joined Sosuave.. It hink that men either don't nkow when a woman has pre-selected them or end up waiting too long with not making a move, till her attention falls off of them and moves onto someone else.

What is preselection? When a girl decides that you're the focus of her attention and that she chooses you out of the crowd because she's attracted to you. She might decide she wants to go home with you if she's a healthy gal.. but often times, other gals, or gals in general these days can shift attention from one guy to another to another.. I think its just how our social media age has made us quite ADHD + women also being not so secure in themselves as there are always hotter, better women out there than them.. no matter how they look-- there might be better personalities, more talented women in the bedroom, women willing to do more, etc

Signs of pre selection are fairly simple.. But its important to realize some bod language..

I'll use this girl who I took home this past weekend as an example.. She was already pretty inebriated when I noticed her, I can tell because she had a big smile on her face for almost no reason.. when she first saw me, her eyes were way too fixed on me for a sober gal to the point that I had to be the one to look away to make it not so awkward.. she caught me off guard. I was talking to another girl alraedy when I noticed her.. but we exchanged a few glances. To make it known that i wasnt with that girl, I started benig more playful wit the girl and said some joke and hit her with a hgih 5. THen I turned my body away from her toward the stage (cabaret stage at a big lounge), to let the girl across the room (my target) know that I wasn't interested in the girl I had already opened a set with. After a bit of staring at her, she diverts her attention, starts looking away and avoiding eye contact, starts playing with her drink, and then fixes all her her to one side (preening) to make herself more attractive.. she's looking at everyone but me at this point. THIS IS EXACTLY-- what told me she pre selected me. Most guys see it as oh shes not interested she was just looking to look at first.. -- THis is where most guys lose the connection and lose her attention.. But me, I went and got 2 drinks, gave it to the girls I opened set with and told them id be back in a bit...

went directly to her and opened with "You wouldn't happen to know where i'd find a pretty girl around here would u" .. she smiled and flirted back, and yet I noticed she was now playing hard to get.. as if she had the leverage (Liquid Courage much?) so I stopped the bullsht and broke it down to her with an ultimatum.. "Alright this is how its gonna go.. Either I can go back to talking to this boring ass chick I just met, or you and I can continue the party at my place and I can give you a big surprise.. I cant tell you what it is, you'd have to experience it" .. She made the wise decision.. and lets just say-- I did too.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Props Rambo. I would've been temped to say "ok, let me know" when she started playing hard to get.

But yeah, eye contact is huge.

 

[pipeman84]

She was already pretty inebriated when I noticed her

or you and I can continue the party at my place and I can give you a big surprise.. I cant tell you what it is, you'd have to experience it" .. She made the wise decision.. and lets just say-- I did too.

So all this theorizing about pre-selection to tell us that you had ONS with a drunk girl?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

So all this theorizing about pre-selection to tell us that you had ONS with a drunk girl?

You're assuming he has no other examples and unlimited time to write up all of his experience.

 

[IKO69]

I agree in principle. There will be many times when a woman will like a man but will not give clear indication. Not every woman is going to give clear "choosing signals" (big smile while clearly focusing on you). So what you get a lot of times are two people who give each other occasional glances when they believe the other isn't looking. By end of the day/night both go home upset and think there wasn't any attraction.


This is why there are going to be times when you simply have to cold approach. Most women are going to expect the guy to take the initiative in this regard.

 

[RazorRambo24]

So all this theorizing about pre-selection to tell us that you had ONS with a drunk girl?

You dont understand that as many successes I have in a year I dont even post a single field report. Its just not my thing .if I did people would be quite depressed reading all the sht.. I purposely go out my way not to boast or sound like im boasting because I know my experience is far from the average joe.

And yea i go for the easy targets . Why waste time with the chick I was already in a set with if shes not primed and ready to go?

You missed the point of the thread just to prove youre either full of envy or super sexually frustrated. Good luck with that.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I agree in principle. There will be many times when a woman will like a man but will not give clear indication. Not every woman is going to give clear "choosing signals" (big smile while clearly focusing on you). So what you get a lot of times are two people who give each other occasional glances when they believe the other isn't looking. By end of the day/night both go home upset and think there wasn't any attraction.


This is why there are going to be times when you simply have to cold approach. Most women are going to expect the guy to take the initiative in this regard.

Ideally you can feel/sense those secretive and occasional glances and take the initiative. Like when you feel someone looking at you in public, gotta fine tune that sense.

 

[pipeman84]

You missed the point of the thread just to prove youre either full of envy or super sexually frustrated. Good luck with that.

Full of envy for what? For preying on drunk girls? C'mon man.
There is no point to this thread, beside your humble brag.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I agree in principle. There will be many times when a woman will like a man but will not give clear indication. Not every woman is going to give clear "choosing signals" (big smile while clearly focusing on you). So what you get a lot of times are two people who give each other occasional glances when they believe the other isn't looking. By end of the day/night both go home upset and think there wasn't any attraction.


This is why there are going to be times when you simply have to cold approach. Most women are going to expect the guy to take the initiative in this regard.

Yep, 80% of the time the guy will HAVE to take the initiative. ( I say 80% becuase there's times the girl will approach me or have her friend approach me)

Further Breakdown aka Free Game:

To me the big smile wasn't the indicator as she had it on her face before even noticing me. The big smile just told me she's in a great mood mentally/must of reached her happy place.. For me it was her going from multiple glances / staring to suddenly making it obvious that she's chosen me by diverting all her attention away from me after realizing I was not with the girl in the other set I was already in..

The key for me to make it known and very clear to the hot chick that the girl I was already in a set with was not a threat to her and just a friend to me. I did this with pure body language by turning my body away from her, after making corny jokes and high 5'ing her like as if she is just a friend. This signals to the chick who kept glancing at me that I'm available. Especially since I started making direct eye contact with her. The key is men, we hold the eye contact. Girls will look away at times, but its just when you know its long enough that you know the attraction is there.

The reason why it was pertinent for me to turn my body away from the girl I was talking to is because, good body languag ein a set is not standing side by side a woman, but face to face with her, in close proximity and making eye contact. This hacks a part of her brain to make her feel like she's known you a lot longer than she has and that you're closer than you are. But to other women who are watching from across the room (ie: hot tipsy chick) it can make it seem like you're with that girl or into that girl. The difference between distance in a set from a close friend to a lover is only a few inches difference. ofc with lovers/partners/interest theres more body language employed, ie: where the hands are, the hips are usually closer, face usually closer/kisses/more playfulness and touchy feely.

Now, besides that part,-- The thing is--that men fall off/drop the connection/lose the attention is -- When the girl starts playing the "dont make it obvious, look away, ignore him, etc.." Thats them casting a reel to you, and hoping to create desire in you -- they want you to approach them then. If you don't, you might miss out..So, I didnt waste any time.. I had to make a move out but also not be rude to the first girl incase sht doesnt work out, so I jus got her and her friend drinks, and told them id be back.

Ofc I was met with resistance being that she now knew she baited me in, so she acted coy and like she had the leverage. But i made it clear I wasn't there to boost her confidence/ego.. I wanted to make my mark. A bit of confidence there and creating competition by mentioning the first girl helped me out with that.

To me this stuff isn't new. I mean I got a decade of game in the nightlife scene.. But, since I don't do field reports It's hard for me to break down important things. The major point of this post was to relay that I keep seeing more and more guys failing during pre selection with women, and I wanted to provide them an example of WHAT TO DO rather than What NOT TO DO.

Ideally you can feel/sense those secretive and occasional glances and take the initiative. Like when you feel someone looking at you in public, gotta fine tune that sense.

Exactly this and this is the biggest part of game. Body language. / the very subtle actions and cues. if you miss even a few of them, you can throw yourself off. After a while of confidence and successes, most are assumed and you don't need to be laser focused because you've seen it all before many times.. and it usually always falls into the same patterns. You just gotta pick up where you/they are and what part of the pattern they're in lol

 

[RazorRambo24]

Full of envy for what? For preying on drunk girls? C'mon man.
There is no point to this thread, beside your humble brag.

If you think this was a humble brag, you probably don't go out much and really don't know who you are talking to.

But besides that, the girl wasn't piss drunk.. I said she was inebriated to make it clear that she was in a good mood/primed to flirtacion as opposed to the girl who I was talking to already who was practically sober.

There's many ways to tell us you're not doing well with women, I think trying to minimize something that wasn't the point of this thread wasn't the way to go about it.

 

[Gamisch]

went directly to her and opened with "You wouldn't happen to know where i'd find a pretty girl around here would u" .

Mic drop.

My man..thats simply a fecking GREAT line!!! That's gold right there gentlemen, or even better, that's polished diamond right there. All you have to do take it and use it..

 

[FlirtLife]

If you think this was a humble brag, you probably don't go out much and really don't know who you are talking to.

It's a bit hypocritical to say @pipeman84 doesn't know who they are talking to, and then accuse "you probably don't go out much"... when you also don't know who you are talking to.

 

[characternote]

It's a bit hypocritical to say @pipeman84 doesn't know who they are talking to, and then accuse "you probably don't go out much"... when you also don't know who you are talking to.

lets just agree we're all massive alpha males on this site who get laid at will with the baddest btiches.
I know I'm an alpha through and through.
And there's really nothing anyone here can 'teach' us so most threads offering advice are kind of a waste of time. It's all obvious. And If for some reason you need pickup advice, find someone on youtube with infields and stuff as opposed to random screennames on reddit or forums etc

 

[RazorRambo24]

It's a bit hypocritical to say @pipeman84 doesn't know who they are talking to, and then accuse "you probably don't go out much"... when you also don't know who you are talking to.

I read and pay attention to what people say. He's not someone who resonates with me and I don't see him as anything other than the other beta males on here that I've put on ignore. No offense to you if that's your buddy or if you're just his resident di.ck holder.

went directly to her and opened with "You wouldn't happen to know where i'd find a pretty girl around here would u" .

Mic drop.

My man..thats simply a fecking GREAT line!!! That's gold right there gentlemen, or even better, that's polished diamond right there. All you have to do take it and use it..

I appreciate it...though I'm pretty sure i've used it in the past. Ofc I'm not against using sht over and over that works or is a good opener.

Another one I employed recently was "Whens the last time someone had your heart beating so fast?" The girl didn't really get it/find it so amusing and said "its not beating fast"-- but itset me up for the perfect responses/kino ..since i was like "let me feel it" and i felt her chest,the chick barely had a pulse lol.. so i followed up off of that with some witty sht and it went pretty well. didnt take her home that night but she did come over for july 4th

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I read and pay attention to what people say. He's not someone who resonates with me and I don't see him as anything other than the other beta males on here that I've put on ignore. No offense to you if that's your buddy or if you're just his resident di.ck holder.



I appreciate it...though I'm pretty sure i've used it in the past. Ofc I'm not against using sht over and over that works or is a good opener.

Another one I employed recently was "Whens the last time someone had your heart beating so fast?" The girl didn't really get it/find it so amusing and said "its not beating fast"-- but itset me up for the perfect responses/kino ..since i was like "let me feel it" and i felt her chest,the chick barely had a pulse lol.. so i followed up off of that with some witty sht and it went pretty well. didnt take her home that night but she did come over for july 4th

"*Why* is your heart beating so fast" Rambo

But that is a sick line, you go straight to feeling her titties.

Stealing this sh1t

Check it out @We_ArE_VeNOM

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

"*Why* is your heart beating so fast" Rambo

But that is a sick line, you go straight to feeling her titties.

Stealing this sh1t

Check it out @We_ArE_VeNOM

Not bad.

I would use that for night game occasions.

 

[RazorRambo24]

"*Why* is your heart beating so fast" Rambo

But that is a sick line, you go straight to feeling her titties.

Stealing this sh1t

Check it out @We_ArE_VeNOM

I think she heard "Whens the last time your heart was beating this fast" anyway which made it easy to follow up and play around with but yea by all means man. Ig ot tons of random sht i've said to women over the years .. i forget more than I can remember.

Not bad.

I would use that for night game occasions.

Was exactly that- club game. But, to be fair, I only really approach and go out my way to game a chick at the club when I'm don't have bottle service. If i have bottle service/a table at the club.. We just pick and choose who we want to invite to my section-- which results in having a buncha options of who I want to go home with that night. Nothing beats making women compete against each other.

 

[IKO69]

Yes, there are some good lines here. I've found over time it's not so much what you say but how deliver it. I once dropped in on a table of a group of three nice looking girls. Just sat next to them, didn't know any of them. They were like do we know you? I said do you know they say everyone is one person away from unimaginable happiness? Let's get to know each other! There was a pause which seemed to last a lot longer than it actually was and they started hootin and hollering. Then they stared at each other for a bit until one if them said you didn't tell us your name (she saved my neck and I found out later she liked me).

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Was exactly that- club game.

Yup, perfect environment for that approach..and also perfect for Mode One Hardcore.

But, to be fair, I only really approach and go out my way to game a chick at the club when I'm don't have bottle service. If i have bottle service/a table at the club.. We just pick and choose who we want to invite to my section-- which results in having a buncha options of who I want to go home with that night. Nothing beats making women compete against each other.

*Lightbulb*.

Epiphany.

 

[Gamisch]

One of the better threads made recently.

I always believed that a simple "hi" was enough. But hi is too generic and doesn't prolong the small window of opportunity. Such a "witty" line on the other hand does. It demands her attention and minda freezes her on the spot for a few seconds, giving you the momentum to go in for the kill.

I agree its not about what you , but how you say it. Still it's essential a DJ has a tool of lines in his pocket/mind like a...dj has records. Opening knowledge like a chess grandmaster knows his openings.