Who Should Initiate Sex Most Of The Time?

[NealIRC]

but the fact of the matter is you're probably going to mostly initiate at first, at least that's how its generally been for me. We know they have penis thrown at them on a regular basis, there is no shortage of attention....we can't forget they are women and we are talking about sealing the deal. When push comes to shove, they don't have the boldness and assertiveness that we do. They have all kinds of mental hangups that hold them back with (usually) new partners. In most of my relationships there was a bit more give and take once settled into a proper relationship (bf/gf).

This is another reason why I go for Hispanic girls over White girls and specifically Hispanic girls in gangs over the non-gangs. Wewt.

 

[soulforge]

Clearly I am not the one who is so bent out of shape about this chick that could care less about you or how desperate you seem to be for sex that you can't even enjoy spending time with her. That's probably the real reason she doesn't seem interested in sex, if you want the truth.

That's a nice deflect from your original message in your post.

You literally suggested

I had this situation before happen to me, and it led to the girl disappearing.

When a woman wants to f3uck a guy and she is in her feminine there is no reason for her no to make a move or initiate sex. I had many chicks initiate sex before, probably she got complacent or bored.

I agree with @soulforge that a drive of 10 minutes does not justify her not initiating sex. Especially when everything is paid.

On the other hand, is either you bang and that's it and you don't care, or if you are looking for anything more then personally I would never tell her anything in regards to her not initiating sex what I would do is remove her for two weeks by being busy and let her chase and arrange sex again two weeks ahead.

See if anything changes if not the chick apparently does not give a flying f3uck. Not sure before if she was initiating sex? and now it stopped?

Hi thanks for reply. No it's always been me who has initiated sex, everytime.

So last weekend I decided not to, just to see what would happen and nope she didn't initiate anything. That means no sex for nearly two weeks!!

No sex for two weeks at this early stage is a bad sign. This puts me in the situation where I have ALWAYS initiate to keep this thing going between us!

 

[soulforge]

TBH expecting her to initiate seems effeminate to me. But then again so much "men" do today seems to be.

So you would imitate every single time 100% and if you for whatever reason you didn't initiate one day, then you both would go without sex for two weeks.

 

[BadBoy89]

I obviously don't want to raise this as an issue with her, and neither do I want to be the guy who is always keeping things going between us sexualy.

Then just invite her over and have a few drinks and go to sleep.

Problem solved.

 

[Gamisch]

So you would imitate every single time 100% and if you for whatever reason you didn't initiate one day, then you both would go without sex for two weeks.

In that case you got your answer. She aint in it for the passion, so she's after something else. Or she gets D somewhere else. Always assume she gets D somewhere else, saves you tons of headaches.

Easy and simple like that.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Men should initiate. It signals the wiring is working and are a high value man. If you wanna lay back over time and let her come to you sure. But upfront especially, the man.

 

[Divorced w 3]

So you would imitate every single time 100% and if you for whatever reason you didn't initiate one day, then you both would go without sex for two weeks.

If you aren’t getting it whatsoever unless you initiate you’re probably in need of my divorce lawyer and should start making a financial war chest.

 

[soulforge]

So she is coming over to my house tonight, the plan is to spen the weekend here till Sunday.

So let me get this right. If I don't initiate sex all weekend then she will simply go home without making zero effort for sex to happen, then we won't see eachother for another 10 days.

You guys think that is normal?

 

[Learning Curve]

So she is coming over to my house tonight, the plan is to spen the weekend here till Sunday.

So let me get this right. If I don't initiate sex all weekend then she will simply go home without making zero effort for sex to happen, then we won't see each other for another 10 days.

You guys think that is normal?

Dude, since it bothers you why you don't actually do this:

Don't initiate sex for the first two days, look at her actions from my understanding she comes over there because she's bored, if sex escalates that's fine if not that's again fine. This translates into a woman that really does not give a flying f3uck to have fun, she just wants someone to spend her time with.

She just wants everything ready on the table. If after two days she does not initiate sex, go for it enjoy it, and tell her to leave and that something came up.

The question really is what are you looking for from this woman? apparently, she is not interested in initiating sex i would personally get bored as f3uck with women like this. Not sure if at least she is fun to be around.

 

[Murk]

So she is coming over to my house tonight, the plan is to spen the weekend here till Sunday.

So let me get this right. If I don't initiate sex all weekend then she will simply go home without making zero effort for sex to happen, then we won't see eachother for another 10 days.

You guys think that is normal?

Why is initiating sex so bad? It's just standard procedure with a new girl a few weeks in. Most of the time you don't get laid unless you initiate to sex so what is the issue? This is only an issue in an LTR.

This leads me to believe, coupled with your angry replies, and our replies not matching what you want to hear... that this thread is about your gf, the Russian. We won't judge, we can only give proper advice if you're honest about the situation. Makes no sense to care about lack of initiating with a new girl.

 

[Canadian_Man]

OP, you seem perturbed by this, by your expectations of how she ought to behave.

As others have said, her showing up to your place is probably enough of an indication that she would be down for it.

It's possible she felt insecure after the last time, due to your lack of initiating.

Testing her to see whether she will be initiate or not seems like a bad path to go down.

 

[Barrister]

TBH expecting her to initiate seems effeminate to me. But then again so much "men" do today seems to be.

Agree a man should never expect the woman to initiate. I will say that if a woman is never initiating in an LTR that this probably hints at there either being an issue in said relationship OR that she just has a very low sex drive (which in itself would be an issue for most men - myself included). Granted, that may not be a big deal if the woman is routinely enthusiastic about sex even if she doesn't initiate.

 

[NealIRC]

So she is coming over to my house tonight, the plan is to spen the weekend here till Sunday.

So let me get this right. If I don't initiate sex all weekend then she will simply go home without making zero effort for sex to happen, then we won't see eachother for another 10 days.

You guys think that is normal?

You can offer her a bed in a different room than yours.

 

[devilkingx2]

I would put it simply like this:

High interest- she initiates the fvcking and doesn't wait for you

Medium Interest- she fvcks only when you initiate

Low Interest- she makes excuses not to fvck even when you initiate

There's other important factors like sex drive and confidence/assertiveness as well as her testing your own interest. So if your girl is shy, insecure, hiding her interest or unsure of your interest it would make sense if she let you initiate even if her interest was high.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Men. That is the masculine thing to do. However. If she doesn’t sometimes. Well. That’s a problem.

 

[Gamisch]

So she is coming over to my house tonight, the plan is to spen the weekend here till Sunday.

So let me get this right. If I don't initiate sex all weekend then she will simply go home without making zero effort for sex to happen, then we won't see eachother for another 10 days.

You guys think that is normal?

Sounds like it makes you insecure.

Look, every woman is after something. First thing you must find out is what it is she's after. Why she's in it? There ALWAYS a ulterior motive. Sounds to me like it's simply a sugardaddy type of relationship . And that's fine! Enjoy life my brother ! Just say it how it is, will make it much more enjoyable.

You could be like" oke she is after materialism BUT I get to feck a hot girl as long as I sell her a dream." Like @devilkingx2 said, medium interest. That should be enough. Just dont expect the full complete total package from HER which includes: high smv + high interest + initiative +you name it.

If you want higher interest , the SMV will be lower..seemingly. Just enjoy her presence.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

NGL I have a big dvck. Which has made me kind of passive. Girls get excited over it and tend to take over. However, one girl got irritated and told me; 'Yeah you have a big dvck. but you can't just lie there and go "Muh dvck". You have to take charge." She's right. And I still struggle with that.

 

[NealIRC]

Would men be okay if she refused sex, but instead, offered free nudes? And for you to take photos of her, any position you want?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Would men be okay if she refused sex, but instead, offered free nudes? And for you to take photos of her, any position you want?

When I was on Tinder. A girl matched me and wanted to just exchange nudes. She said she'd do any position I wanted. Honestly. Digital stuff doesn't get me going.

 

[NealIRC]

When I was on Tinder. A girl matched me and wanted to just exchange nudes. She said she'd do any position I wanted. Honestly. Digital stuff doesn't get me going.

Well, if it would make you view porn less, wouldn't it be worth it?