Who Should Initiate Sex Most Of The Time?

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Been seeing this chick casually for the last 6 weeks.

Only meet her once a week at my place Saturday nights.

On every occasion it's been me who has made the move for sex to happen.

I have initiated 5 times. This gone Saturday I didn't Initiate as I wanted to see if she would make some effort for sex to happen, if I didn't make a move.

So this gone Saturday night I didn't Initiate sex, and we ended up not having sex at all. We simply went to sleep after a good few drinks and she went home in the morning.

It's probably low Interest on her part or she is fukin entitled, but it seems like sex will only happen if it is ME who makes ALL the effort.

I obviously don't want to raise this as an issue with her, and neither do I want to be the guy who is always keeping things going between us sexualy.
 

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If she's coming to your place every Saturday for drinks and sex that's pretty high interest. You will usually have to escalate new girls at your place until they warm up a bit (could take weeks or months, she's in your home/frame). Some girls will jump your bones when they come over the first time, some girls are more reserved. I don't see why it's an issue unless she's not enjoying/putting effort into sex. She's actually making all the effort by coming to see you, just be forward with her.

Be honest, it's the same Russian from last year isn't it :lol:
 

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Been seeing this chick casually for the last 6 weeks.

Only meet her once a week at my place Saturday nights.

On every occasion it's been me who has made the move for sex to happen.

I have initiated 5 times. This gone Saturday I didn't Initiate as I wanted to see if she would make some effort for sex to happen, if I didn't make a move.

So this gone Saturday night I didn't Initiate sex, and we ended up not having sex at all. We simply went to sleep after a good few drinks and she went home in the morning.

It's probably low Interest on her part or she is fukin entitled, but it seems like sex will only happen if it is ME who makes ALL the effort.

I obviously don't want to raise this as an issue with her, and neither do I want to be the guy who is always keeping things going between us sexualy.
She is already the one making the trip to your place, do you expect her to do everything for you?

I get what you are saying but you are sitting on your ass doing nothing while she comes to you. Could you actually be the entitled one here?
 

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I'd say that the fact she's coming over to your place means she already "initiated " 80% of what's left to happen..

Life is NOT a bangbros episode homie haha ;)

And 6 weeks is also kinda short isn't it? If you D her down like you supposed to she will get ad-****-ted and you might get you bangbros episode after all... But @Murk isnt right, right? That this is "just" the Russian girl?
 

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She is already the one making the trip to your place, do you expect her to do everything for you?

I get what you are saying but you are sitting on your ass doing nothing while she comes to you. Could you actually be the entitled one here?
Ah okay I get you... Because she drives 12 minutes to my house, which is a MUCH nicer house than hers, with a 100 inch 4k cinema screen in the cinema room. Her drinks and meals all paid by me, I should be grateful of her 12 minutes journey and bend over backwards to please her... Dude you are the very Definition of a thirsty SIMP if this is how you operate with females.

Because she travels 10 minutes for YOU, I bet you eat her azz out on her command. Pathetic!
 

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Ah okay I get you... Because she drives 12 minutes to my house, which is a MUCH nicer house than hers, with a 100 inch 4k cinema screen in the cinema room. Her drinks and meals all paid by me, I should be grateful of her 12 minutes journey and bend over backwards to please her... Dude you are the very Definition of a thirsty SIMP if this is how you operate with females.

Because she travels 10 minutes for YOU, I bet you eat her azz out on her command. Pathetic!
Actually I'd fvck her ass and then make her turn around and taste it.

And she would be bringing drinks and other stuff...no women ever shows up to my place empty handed and that's without me even bringing it up.

Maybe you should find better quality women if they bring nothing.
 

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If she's coming to your place every Saturday for drinks and sex that's pretty high interest. You will usually have to escalate new girls at your place until they warm up a bit (could take weeks or months, she's in your home/frame). Some girls will jump your bones when they come over the first time, some girls are more reserved. I don't see why it's an issue unless she's not enjoying/putting effort into sex. She's actually making all the effort by coming to see you, just be forward with her.

Be honest, it's the same Russian from last year isn't it :lol:
Nah this one's a Ukrainian chick haha no chit... And yeh I get you and all that, but damn, if I don't initiate, looks like sex won't happen at all.
 

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Actually I'd fvck her ass and then make her turn around and taste it.
I doubt that man. You just so very very grateful that she drove 10 minutes for you, that you probably let her peg you from behind.

I mean like you stated, she making a HUGE effort coming over to see you in her 10 minutes commute right!
 

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I'd say that the fact she's coming over to your place means she already "initiated " 80% of what's left to happen..

Life is NOT a bangbros episode homie haha ;)

And 6 weeks is also kinda short isn't it? If you D her down like you supposed to she will get ad-****-ted and you might get you bangbros episode after all... But @Murk isnt right, right? That this is "just" the Russian girl?
Relax bro.. It's a ten minute drive, she ain't moving mountains for me here. Plus my house got everything, cinema room, hot tub... Her house is at best livable in haha.

It's a luxury for her to come to my place.
 

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Years ago @BeExcellent gave me some great advice that cleared up a lot of things for me.....she said "if she is still complying/agreeing with your requests she is interested."

Lead like a man. It's comply or bye. Be confident in your offer. If she keeps saying yes she wants you. Don't make it any harder than it is. That's what women do.
 

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I doubt that man. You just so very very grateful that she drove 10 minutes for you, that you probably let her peg you from behind.

I mean like you stated, she making a HUGE effort coming over to see you in her 10 minutes commute right!
And she'd be bringing alcohol and some food instead of freeloading like she does with you.
 

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Relax bro.. It's a ten minute drive, she ain't moving mountains for me here. Plus my house got everything, cinema room, hot tub... Her house is at best livable in haha.

It's a luxury for her to come to my place.
Your missing the point: she could be living next to you, its still her grown up woman decision to dress up and enter your house. She isn't obligated to go to your house, and she could also be anywhere else..

I think we have a different view on what initiative means. To me it means she follows orders (aka does we she supposed to do as a woman)
 

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Your missing the point: she could be living next to you, its still her grown up woman decision to dress up and enter your house. She isn't obligated to go to your house, and she could also be anywhere else..

I think we have a different view on what initiative means. To me it means she follows orders (aka does we she supposed to do as a woman)
Ok so let's take your world view on this.

According to you.. If a chick is making the effort to walk 2 minutes to your house, then you would literally go out of your way for that puzzy and bend over backwards 100x in order to smash her.

Even if it means she makes ZERO effort to have sex and you make 100% of the effort every time. If on an occasion you don't make an effort for sex to happen, then she simply makes no effort at all, and makes her way home the following day without giving you sex.

Wow man you taking SIMPING to a whole new level. You obviously do not feel like you're the prize!
 

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And she'd be bringing alcohol and some food instead of freeloading like she does with you.
But it don't matter does it.. I mean she drove 10 minutes to my house, so I should be forever grateful for that right.

If she brings a bottle of wine over, but makes zero effort EVER for sex to happen, it's all good right, least I got some free wine out of the situation.

You take SIMPING to a whole new level.
 

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After a couple of months of dating this girl, this happened:

I was trying to find the right balance between estrogen and testosterone, for a some time I was crashing my estrogen, when that happened I was going weeks with no libido, like I'm telling you zero desire to fvck, I was still having fun going on dates, I was hitting the gym hard, doing long hours at work, hobbies were my priorities.

When she was kissing me, I kid you not, I got bored of the kissing and was always turning the head away, I wasn't grabbing her a$$ like I used too, it was like I wasn't turned on by her.

I noticed for the first time, the genuine effect this had on her, it was like in her sixth sense she could smell that I couldn't care less if I fvcked her or not, we went several nights to sleep without it, she was all over me trying to initiate, every time I was making excuses that I was tired from work, but in reality I didn't have any desire to fvck and drove her crazy to try to get me to fvck her even harder.

You always hear people that jist have fun and don't have s3x in your mind as a goal, and it will happen, well that $hit is crazy, to the point of her telling me that she didn't think she was hot enough for me and she felt insecure.

Obviously you gotta fvck her good cause she will find someone else to do it, but this tells you that if you have s3x in your mind as a priority you will subconsciously behave in a way that you'll give the vibe of being needy for s3x. After that happened, I only fvck her when I have the desire to do so, if I don't feel like it, I won't do it.

Maybe try to detach it from having that as a goal and enjoy her company doing fun stuff?

That's what I mean. I give her the impression that I totally DESIRE her sexualy.. She gives me the impression that she can take it or leave the sex, she doesn't want it that bad at all.

This gone Saturday I didn't make a move on her and sex didn't happen at all. We might aswell be fukin freinds in that case.

The simps on here, will literally lick a girlz azz out on command, because she drove five minutes to your house. Tiny bit of effort by her, and they turn into slaves for that azz.. Pathetic!
 

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Ok so let's take your world view on this.

According to you.. If a chick is making the effort to walk 2 minutes to your house, then you would literally go out of your way for that puzzy and bend over backwards 100x in order to smash her.

Even if it means she makes ZERO effort to have sex and you make 100% of the effort every time. If on an occasion you don't make an effort for sex to happen, then she simply makes no effort at all, and makes her way home the following day without giving you sex.

Wow man you taking SIMPING to a whole new level. You obviously do not feel like you're the prize!
You are angry today bro, what wrong?

Nah, I wont ;"
go out of your way for that puzzy and bend over backwards 100x in order to smash her." It happens naturally. I assume she wanna smash if she comes over. How ,where and when the smashing happens is circumstantial.

Perhaps you feel like you have to do too much effort ? If that is the case (in combination with the fact you said your living standards are way higher) , be careful it's not just a transactional relationship rather than a passionate one.

What I mean is kinda like the famous RP qoute: women are the gatekeepers of sex.

Edit: perhaps you should analyze your approach to escalation. Some women are like steamboats ,others are like speedboats.

And on top of that some women are simply hardwired to believe the man must take the initiative for sex to happen, specificallyin the beginning stages. Perhaps after a while, when she's comfortable with you she will let loose a bit. But that might take months. So for now I'd be in peace with initiating, as long as she's receptive and horny for me. If i sense it's transactional sex ,I'll at best change my pov of her but probably I'd ditch her.
 
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Interesting replies men.

I believe that it’s the man that is responsible for initiation most of time. It is possible that i subconsciously pick women who have reactive desire. But reactive desire is common in females, they get turned on by their man wanting them. And let me tell you sex is normally outstanding.

I do appreciate it when a partner initiates sex on her own. It’s fun to have your otherwise demure kitten become a minx and allows her to “be in charge”, which she really is not but it’s fun for her nonetheless.

I am surprised by many of the responses saying that the woman is low interest if she isn’t initiating all the time.

SS is a very strange forum sometimes, not sure where some of ya’ll get these outlandish ideas from. Smacks of someone with not much experience with women thinking “yeah that beeyatch better get on dis” and then talk about it and then other clueless people thinking it’s cool to repeat. Very strange, gentlemen very strange.
 

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Some girls are just not the type to start grabbing your d*ck while you are watching a movie, or tell you to fvck them etc. Yeah it’s harder work if they’re not overly sexual but maybe it’s these Ukrainians. I was seeing one too proper little h0e but I had to escalate everything, after 2-3 weeks she was quite open. The only initiating she would do is grinding on me if we lay down watching a movie. One time she gave me a massage and bj which was nice and unprompted.

I suggest spooning with a girl on the sofa so I can grab their tits and touch their body and grind on them usually last 60-90 seconds before my d*ck is out, very easy initiating to sex which has never failed me.

Never wait for a girl to initiate.
 

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