The Invisibility of Women Starts in Their 30s

[Solomon]

Women in the United States are not even close to being invisible in their 30s. I've been interacting with women in their 30s for a while. I've been dating childless women/women slightly younger than I am, but haven't leveled up enough in this competitive dating environment to date under 30.

These women are all in demand. If I met them through a tech-based method, they had hundreds of men expressing interest in them on a swipe app and/or in their social media DMs. I know women in my business life who are 30+ who get propositions for dates/sex on LinkedIn regularly, despite not actually seeking new penis.

While a 35 year old childless woman might not get the same quality of man as she could have gotten at 25, she'll still have plenty of options and some decent ones at 35. In general, the bottom 80% of men are invisible to women. So, if a woman is 35 and single, she might end up in a relationship by considering someone who was previously invisible to her. It might not be a Top 20% guy, but a woman who isn't overweight and childless in her 30s can still easily get a guy in the Top 40% of men, who will likely be a decent option.

Agree, women in their 30s are not out of the game at all especially if they are thin and feminine people forget the last 25 years the average woman has become fatter. I see women who are 22 and they look 42 because of poor diet, vaping, and just being overweight threads like these are just "CopeNHope" The average man in 2023 is far more of a simp than the average man in 2003.

In 2003

• Onlyfans wouldn't have existed
• AI girlfriends were for losers
• The Redpill was just a group of small men
• Feminine women were easier to come by
• Woke&cancel culture wasn't as rampant as it is now

You have women who are in their 30s and 40s getting divorced every day who know what it takes to keep or appease a man. These women can still compete because if they are feminine (or can fake at least) they can still snare a simp, or a former Alpha who is tired of the game

 

[Ricky]

Agree, women in their 30s are not out of the game at all especially if they are thin and feminine people forget the last 25 years the average woman has become fatter. I see women who are 22 and they look 42 because of poor diet, vaping, and just being overweight threads like these are just "CopeNHope" The average man in 2023 is far more of a simp than the average man in 2003.

In 2003

• Onlyfans wouldn't have existed
• AI girlfriends were for losers
• The Redpill was just a group of small men
• Feminine women were easier to come by
• Woke&cancel culture wasn't as rampant as it is now

You have women who are in their 30s and 40s getting divorced every day who know what it takes to keep or appease a man. These women can still compete because if they are feminine (or can fake at least) they can still snare a simp, or a former Alpha who is tired of the game

This is actually very true. I am married and work with about 80 percent women. Almost any of the woman have multiple choices but they are known to choose poorly fairly frequently. Some of the less savory women i've befriended the last couple of years make it even more clear that simps are flooding them with attention. I believe this has the unintended consequence of making it even more difficult for women to decide what they want.

 

[MatureDJ]

Author of article:

- “I feel invisible now,” a friend recently said. She will be 30 in a month.
- talk to the average woman and the Moment feels more like tokenism; for many, a growing sense of invisibility, of gradual erasure, starts in their 30s.
- in China, age 27 is when unmarried women officially become “leftover pearls”
- the root of women’s so-called jadedness as they age: that to capitalize on the experience and confidence they’ve accrued, they must give the illusion of (relative) youth.

Feeling Invisible After 35

Much has been written on the invisibility of women in their 50s, but for many, the slow creep of feeling invisible to men, to society starts years earlier.

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Thoughts?

 

[SW15]

The average man in 2023 is far more of a simp than the average man in 2003.

In 2003

• Onlyfans wouldn't have existed
• AI girlfriends were for losers
• The Redpill was just a group of small men
• Feminine women were easier to come by
• Woke&cancel culture wasn't as rampant as it is now

In 2003, neither Facebook nor Instagram existed either. Swipe apps were still 9 years away. Online dating websites existed and some women were having their inboxes blown up on Match or Yahoo Personals, but that was a smaller segment of the population. That was around the tail end of the time when online dating was still stigmatized. In 2003, many people who didn't have social circle options had to rely on bars or other in-person events. Today, it's possible to arrange multiple dates without talking to a person in the real world. These are likely to be low quality, "one date, no sex, no second date" type dates though. That's even if a man is fortunate as getting matches and dates on swipe apps is not easy, but in-person approaching is also challenging too. The upside of arranging dates solely via swipe apps and in the DMs is that it can be done at home without getting dressed up or taking a shower that day.

You have women who are in their 30s and 40s getting divorced every day who know what it takes to keep or appease a man. These women can still compete because if they are feminine (or can fake at least) they can still snare a simp, or a former Alpha who is tired of the game

Male thirst an epidemic, if not a pandemic. There are many men thirsty for sex and relationships and will commit to a 30s/40s woman.

 

[Barrister]

Women in the United States are not even close to being invisible in their 30s. I've been interacting with women in their 30s for a while. I've been dating childless women/women slightly younger than I am, but haven't leveled up enough in this competitive dating environment to date under 30.

These women are all in demand. If I met them through a tech-based method, they had hundreds of men expressing interest in them on a swipe app and/or in their social media DMs. I know women in my business life who are 30+ who get propositions for dates/sex on LinkedIn regularly, despite not actually seeking new penis.

While a 35 year old childless woman might not get the same quality of man as she could have gotten at 25, she'll still have plenty of options and some decent ones at 35. In general, the bottom 80% of men are invisible to women. So, if a woman is 35 and single, she might end up in a relationship by considering someone who was previously invisible to her. It might not be a Top 20% guy, but a woman who isn't overweight and childless in her 30s can still easily get a guy in the Top 40% of men, who will likely be a decent option.

Correct. It is amazing to me that on this forum of all places guys keep pushing this false narrative about "the wall" for women. If a woman stays attractive, she can pull men well into her early 50s - there will be a market for her from older men up to that point. And if she is very attractive, she can pull men her own age or even younger.

Sure, if she lets herself go there will be no market for her. And that gets tougher with age. But the same goes for men too. It is a human condition - not a strictly female one. I do agree that men's SMV can be maintained at a higher level into an older age - but it still takes a lot of work on the man's part.

 

[Robert28]

My experience is a lot different than most of y’all’s on here. I can get attention all day long from women 40+ and 21-25. I struggle like a mother fvcker with women 30-39, whether they don’t have kids or have kids by different baby daddies, they all think they can do better than settle for me. In fact they’d rather settle for a bunch of 2 month “relationships” with Chad and go from one to the next than to bother with me. I know one woman who’s 37, will be 38 this year, is a 6 at best, she used to be an 8 but she can still get body builder types for short term relationships and she’s not going to settle for average Joe no matter what. And she’s got two kids by two different guys! She’s got more options than I’ll ever have lol

 

[Dr.Suave]

My experience is a lot different than most of y’all’s on here. I can get attention all day long from women 40+ and 21-25. I struggle like a mother fvcker with women 30-39, whether they don’t have kids or have kids by different baby daddies, they all think they can do better than settle for me. In fact they’d rather settle for a bunch of 2 month “relationships” with Chad and go from one to the next than to bother with me. I know one woman who’s 37, will be 38 this year, is a 6 at best, she used to be an 8 but she can still get body builder types for short term relationships and she’s not going to settle for average Joe no matter what. And she’s got two kids by two different guys! She’s got more options than I’ll ever have lol

You are in a good place, bro. Last time I was single, pulling younger than 25 was hard.