I’m cheating on her at this moment

[BeExcellent]

I agree. There are men who dont cheat. Lemme ask this. If these men had access to the hottest women and would not get caught...would they still be faithful?

Some would, yes. It comes down to a man’s character and value system. Men who greatly cherish their women are disgusted at the idea of succumbing to a beautiful w h o r e for momentary pleasure that could wreck their life partnership. They would find this to be weakness within themselves. Some go to the point of avoiding situations that put them at risk. They do not worship or value the hotness nearly as much as they value their commitment. Those men certainly exist.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Men who greatly cherish their women are disgusted at the idea of succumbing to a beautiful w h o r e for momentary pleasure that could wreck their life partnership.

Firstly, why is the woman a wh0re just because he slept with her? Second, maybe we should be asking why we allow insecure women dictate what's right and wrong with regards to relationships. What I'm saying is, why is the guy screwing another woman such an unforgiveable act if he doesn't have any emotional tie to the woman, or gives her any resources? Surely a strong self assured woman wouldn't be threatened that her man got meaningless sex from another woman.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Fraud is wrong regardless of any other rationalization. If you are defrauding your girlfriend, there is a big problem. Is the argument really that fraud is ok as long as you REALLY wanted to do it?

Fraud is a crime. Stop it.

Some would, yes. It comes down to a man’s character and value system. Men who greatly cherish their women are disgusted at the idea of succumbing to a beautiful w h o r e for momentary pleasure that could wreck their life partnership.

If there were no chance of getting caught, 100% of men are banging the other woman if she is hot enough. Those who say otherwise are capping.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Perhaps not but she might 'get' an STD, who the hell knows where said woman has been?

Would a man who cherishes his woman want to risk that? Bringing home some skanky disease she could possibly die from like HIV?

The same could be said for any sexual encounter ever.... It's funny how females try to instantly frame the scenario in one that makes the other woman some disease riddled low life.... Couldn't she just be a normal female human that he chose to have sex with?

By succumbing to his "biological imperative" he broke the vow. He failed to live up to his own standard which he made by entering into the commitment.

Ya know, virginity was a major requirement that the woman was expected to uphold right? If we're talking traditional marriage expectations....

 

[DonJuanjr]

I still haven't gotten a proper answer to my question - why commit?

He doesn't have to, it's perfectly acceptable to remain non-commtted and single.

I think this is where there's a disconnect... To men, "commitment" isn't analogous to sexual exclusivity...

 

[DonJuanjr]

No, NOT if said man did not choose to be in a monogamous committed relationship with a woman he loves.

There's a huge difference and a bit surprised this needed explaining.

And you're naive if you believe that stds are only limited to skanks and hoes.

Perfectly nice woman have gotten too, and died from them.

Most people don't typically have sex weeks after they become "monogamous" and allow any possible std symptoms to surface from previous sexual encounters...

 

[EyeBRollin]

He took the vow DJ, sometimes before GOD, to remain faithful.

He can't just make up his own definition after that, come on man.

If you find out your man cheated, are you leaving?

 

[Stanley]

.....arguing with a fool only proves that there are two....

 

[DonJuanjr]

What? You lost me. Lol

You didn't have sex with virgins correct? So... How long did you wait to have sex with your boyfriends the first time? Was it long enough that any possible std symptoms would have surfaced from their previous sexual encounters, or yours? If not, how is the std risk any different?

 

[DonJuanjr]

He took the vow DJ, sometimes before GOD, to remain faithful.

He can't just make up his own definition after that, come on man.

Since you want to talk about traditional marital expectations, what are your thoughts on the expectations for females to be virgins? I'm not too keen on the bible, but does it actually state that faithful means sexual exclusivity?

 

[Macadellic]

OP,
Cheat and find what you feel.

If you feel bad that’s telling you something.
If you feel nothing that’s telling your something.
If you feel good that’s telling you something.
If you feel great that’s telling you something.

I have cheated on gf’s and have felt all the above and I knew exactly what to do.

Didn’t feel bad, I don’t care about my gf.
Felt nothing, I ended things with her.
Felt good, kept my gf and eventually ended things.
Felt great, continued to cheat and moved on.

Welcome to being a man.

Women want a man that
can cheat but chooses not to.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Fraud is wrong regardless of any other rationalization. If you are defrauding your girlfriend, there is a big problem. Is the argument really that fraud is ok as long as you REALLY wanted to do it?

Just win, baby?

 

[Pandora]

What I'm saying is, why is the guy screwing another woman such an unforgiveable act if he doesn't have any emotional tie to the woman, or gives her any resources?

Exactly. Im not saying cheating is right. I am saying its not this unforgivable act that American culture makes it seem to be. Im pretty sure financially neglecting your family is 10x worse but dead beat fathers dont get as much wrath as a " cheater".

 

[CBear]

Banging other chicks = spreading seed. That’s how humans are wired. As seen in another thread, more women are in relationships than men. The mathematical explanation is that women share men. Whether we morally agree or disagree with it, a few of the men are fvcking all the women. Just the facts.

My opinion is that men have no reason to feel guilty about it. If you have the ability to bang multiple girls, that is just nature at work. Sexual monogamy is unnatural for men; no woman is offering up a commensurate sacrifice.

The whole problem with this "spreading the seed" point is that this would be the case if it were millions of years ago and a male was trying to carry his legacy on/being the fittest to survive. Survival of the fittest in today's de-evolving world is successfully raising kids in a two person household. What differentiates us as humans is that we've developed more intelligence to be civil. This mindset is very animalistic/primal which does no good in today's world. There is a certain lack of intelligence to those who have no control over their primal side.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Exactly. Im not saying cheating is right. I am saying its not this unforgivable act that American culture makes it seem to be. Im pretty sure financially neglecting your family is 10x worse but dead beat fathers dont get as much wrath as a " cheater".

People vote with their feet. What we know is that women in 2023 are sharing men.

 

[EyeBRollin]

There is a certain lack of intelligence to those who have no control over their primal side.

That means women have no intelligence. They still aren’t giving broke guys a chance.

 

[bat soup]

Taking a dump and gonna cheat in 2 minutes. Don’t know what to feel about it. Don’t know why I’m doing it either.

It's necessary to take a dump every so often.

 

[CBear]

That means women have no intelligence. They still aren’t giving broke guys a chance.

What does that have anything to do with what I said?

 

[EyeBRollin]

What does that have anything to do with what I said?

It is a direct response.

“There is a certain lack of intelligence to those who have no control over their primal side.”

Women have no control over their primal side.

 

[CBear]

It is a direct response.

“There is a certain lack of intelligence to those who have no control over their primal side.”

Women have no control over their primal side.

Why wouldn't you want to be the most dominant man and climb up the hierarchy, if that's what you have to do?

Any normal male wouldn't want his daughter to get with someone broke as it's more likely that the person won't be able to have the resources or the will to protect or provide for her or her family, aka, your legacy. This is moreso in the interest of you than the actual female.