"Only one profile out of 100 was liked by more than 80% of women"

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OLD is a bust and cold approaching fails way more often than it succeeds.
Swipe apps, social media DMs, and approaching strangers are all difficult paths for a variety of reasons.

If a man already has a pre-built social circle, that's going to be the easiest way to get a girlfriend in the short to medium term. Building a social circle from scratch after one's mid-20s is also a time consuming activity. Men with social circles tend to be men who live in the same area as they spent their K-12 formative years.

Relocations are terrible for social circle formation and maintenance, especially relocations earlier in life.

Many beta males in LTRs got their social circle introduction and just kept the relationship going, often from a scarcity mentality.
 

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When I was up in NYC recently I noticed that the majority of profile pictures looked like they were taken by professionals. They were fashionably dressed and according to their bio, had interesting jobs. I think it’s fair enough that a woman would expect the same from a man.

However, I get back to my city 1000 miles away and most of the women look janky AF, yet have the audacity to list all sorts of requirements in their bio. I could see putting in effort to improve my profile if the selection was good, but in my town, it doesn’t seem worth it.

In the past few months I have had the most matches on Hinge. Nothing on Tinder, and Bumble seemed to be holding my supposed 20 or so matches for a subscription ransom. I used the same pictures on each.

Is it better to just get a subscription? I mean it doesn’t really cost that much. How much does a pro photographer usually charge?

Not saying OLD is useless, but it requires about as much effort as cold approach imo and at least cold approach gets me out of my apartment.

I heard there is some top-tier OLD apps Raya and The League for celebrities and rich dudes. Anyone here try signing up for those
 

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There’s no way to even meet women these days. OLD is a bust and cold approaching fails way more often than it succeeds. Its over for 99% of men
That is your problem rather than inexperience. That will still be your problem even if you had experience as that will be your future xyz year dry spell. Therefore dont stress on inexperience.
 

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Swipe apps, social media DMs, and approaching strangers are all difficult paths for a variety of reasons.

If a man already has a pre-built social circle, that's going to be the easiest way to get a girlfriend in the short to medium term. Building a social circle from scratch after one's mid-20s is also a time consuming activity. Men with social circles tend to be men who live in the same area as they spent their K-12 formative years.

Relocations are terrible for social circle formation and maintenance, especially relocations earlier in life.

Many beta males in LTRs got their social circle introduction and just kept the relationship going, often from a scarcity mentality.
That's a good point. It can be easy to be set up through mutual friends via your social circle. A social circle can actually a pretty important thing for a man to have for that reason and for others as well. I do still live in the same area that I spent my K-12 years in, but I do not have any social circle at all and yes, it does get harder to build a new one from scratch once you get older. I lost mine for various reasons such as a falling out with a couple friends, political disagreements that ruined the friendships, just drifting apart and losing touch over time, and friends moving away too. It also goes without saying that having a social circle can be pretty important when it comes to dating women since a lot of them are hesitant to date a man who doesn't have any friends because he obviously has no social proof and there is a concern that he will become clingy and jealous of her social life as well. There are some women who like the idea of dating a man with no friends because he can spend more time with her, but it seems like a lot of these women can be very high maintenance and will require lots of attention and near constant validation, so they wouldn't be fun to date anyway.

I actually have given a lot of thought to relocating and I do know that if a man or woman does decide to relocate, building a new social circle is a must. Since I still live where I grew up, at least I still have my family to socialize with even though I don't have friends. But if I relocate, my family won't be there and having no social circle would mean a nearly continuous state of isolation and that can cause a lot of mental health issues. So building a new social circle has to be one of the first things anyone who relocates should set out to do in their new environment.
 

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That is your problem rather than inexperience. That will still be your problem even if you had experience as that will be your future xyz year dry spell. Therefore dont stress on inexperience.
Yeah I know, its one of the main reasons why I'm still inexperienced in the first place. A lack of opportunities to meet single women can definitely keep a man inexperienced for longer, or push him into a dry spell that can last for years.
 

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I've actually never used OLD. I became too scared off from it after reading horror stories about it here on SS and other sites as well.
So basically you gave up without even trying. Nothing else to say.
I wouldn't consider it a bad thing if a 29 year old man has never used an online dating website or app in his life. He avoided a lot of bad dates, mainly the "one date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

However, if a 29 year old man has never used a dating website or swipe app, has never tried to slide into DMs on social media, has never approached strangers, and has no social circle, then that's a problem.
 

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I wouldn't consider it a bad thing if a 29 year old man has never used an online dating website or app in his life. He avoided a lot of bad dates, mainly the "one date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

However, if a 29 year old man has never used a dating website or swipe app, has never tried to slide into DMs on social media, has never approached strangers, and has no social circle, then that's a problem.
The second one is a completely accurate description of me, that's exactly how I am. And at times I feel like its a problem that cannot be solved.
 
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