Am I ugly or something?

dyldo_swaggins

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Sounds like a validation post but I am honestly trying to get an unbiased opinion of my looks and physique. I've always thought of myself as very handsome and my friends have said the same. I've also been on gear since I was 18 and I have a good physique for my age.

But the problem is I rarely get IOIs from the 9.5s or 10s. It's mostly the 6s or 7s that show interest but I'm not even attracted to those girls. Am I overestimating my looks and shooting too high? What would you rate me?

I'm 5'10 and 183 lbs btw
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You're not a bad looking dude. The thing is you look like a nice guy type.. and probably act like it to without realizign it. Now, I wouldn't say fake who you are and try to be a badass.. 8-10's are hard to pull for ordinary guys because they mostly look for tall white or black men with a nice smile/who are handsome.. just how it goes.. They might date an asian guy or a latino or somethin else.. but if they think of themselves as a 10, they're going to want a guy who they feel is a 10.

How you pull hot women is mostly about your attitude and personality.. Your greatest asset is your body/physique i think.. sojust continue to work out and don't be shy to post mad pics showcasing your body.. you'll do just fine
 

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Women love the light-eyes latin and mixed types dudes, so that's an asset along with the physique. But the hair's gotta go. Either long, bald, or shorter. But the hair as it is distracts from your better features - in the middle pic it looks like a Trump-style combover.

Check out guys like Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez and that dude Jeremy Meeks of prison fame.

Cats, latin guys dress like this the world over.
 
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Women love the light-eyes latin and mixed types dudes, so that's an asset along with the physique. But the hair's gotta go. Either long, bald, or shorter. But the hair as it is distracts from your better features - in the middle pic it looks like a Trump-style combover.

Cats, latin guys dress like this the world over.
Honestly the middle one looks like a cheap toupee.
 

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Women love the light-eyes latin and mixed types dudes, so that's an asset along with the physique. But the hair's gotta go. Either long, bald, or shorter. But the hair as it is distracts from your better features - in the middle pic it looks like a Trump-style combover.

Cats, latin guys dress like this the world over.
Yeah I was gonna mention, if dude had like a nice short fade.. he'd prob kill it at the clubs.. He opted for the weird "i saw this haircut on instagram" look. Hes also gotta have some personaliy in his pictures.. nothing is as big asa turnoff for women as a guy who looks decent but makes soft ass faces in his pics like hes sensitive.. or has pictures that make him look lonely . like nothing but selfies and mirror pics of him or pics of him standing alone in a room.

have pics of yourself like with all your hoomies doin wild ****! or cool ****

all the f-boys who get ***** , they dont make no simple ass boring facial expression in the pics.. neither did i when i was a young playa lol
 

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You should really focus on niching yourself to appeal to a certain sub-type of 9s and 10s and then do cold approach. I don't think OLD will work as you always get 2 - 3 SMVs lower than your looks anyway. Have you thought of getting some tatoos, necklesses, or trying out riding a motorcycle? What is the most adventerous thing that you have done that would make you stand out from other guys? Find the niche and you'll get the IOIs you are looking for.
 

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I take it you're Pakistani or Indian or something.. while its cool to say that to women.. because its exotic/different.. In todays superficial climate u gotta spice that **** up lik e"yeah my family is apart of one of the biggest drug mafias in India.. my uncle recently got assasinated by the special ops forces there"... Alot of 9s - 10's are superficial bimbos.. they hear Indian and they'll think of u as a weak sensitive boy whos dad probably works at a convenient store or is a doctor.. and ur family is super strict and only eat vegetarian food.

You gotta finesse women like.. if ur paki or indian, tell them you "do business" and never tellt hem exactly what. if u can convince them that u sell drugs ors omething, itll work out for u way better than being like "yeah I work in Inforrmation Technology.. with computers and stuff..heh"
 

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You look good. Hair is a bit much and so is the drip, but everything is relative and location matters.

You also look 28, get off gear and work on your game, inner game more than anything clearly. If you've been on it since 18 (dumb) you're shooting yourself in the **** (what's left of it). You earlier stated you want quality women for ltrs, yet you complain about not getting attention from hb9s? If you want a ltr looks shouldn't be the sole determinant or driving factor in choosing a partner. That will set you up for failure.
 

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You look good. Hair is a bit much and so is the drip, but everything is relative and location matters.

You also look 28, get off gear and work on your game, inner game more than anything clearly. If you've been on it since 18 (dumb) you're shooting yourself in the **** (what's left of it). You earlier stated you want quality women for ltrs, yet you complain about not getting attention from hb9s? If you want a ltr looks shouldn't be the sole determinant or driving factor in choosing a partner. That will set you up for failure.
He can't get off gear. After 10 years you will be shut down permanently.

And no offense but if that's all you got after 10 years on gear you should get your fvcking money back. I looked better than that at 40 with no gear, just busting my ass at the gym and eating properly.
 

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He can't get off gear. After 10 years you will be shut down permanently.

And no offense but if that's all you got after 10 years on gear you should get your fvcking money back. I looked better than that at 40 with no gear, just busting my ass at the gym and eating properly.
He's been on it for two years supposedly. I just meant he looks 28, likely because of the juice i'd imagine. But otherwise yes I agree 100%. No reason to touch the shid until you've maxed out your genetic potential anyways. The guys I knew who did it late teens now in their mid 20's aren't doing too great. Seems like an awful way to mess up your life just to get bigger
 
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He's been on it for two years supposedly. I just meant he looks 28, likely because of the juice i'd imagine. But otherwise yes I agree 100%. No reason to touch the shid until you've maxed out your genetic potential anyways. The guys I knew who did it late teens now in their mid 20's aren't doing too great. Seems like an awful way to mess up your life just to get bigger
People want the easy way not the way that requires hard worker work.

This isn't directed specifically at OP, but anyone on gear before age 35 is a fvcking numnut in my opinion.
 

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Your body is aight, facially you’re above average but no, you’re not top handsomeness unless your last picture could be you on a normal day, the reality is the last picture is you only in the last picture with lighting and angles.

You would be a 9/10 in Bangalore or Pune, in Europe you would be 7/10. Facially I’m just not seeing masculinity and handsomeness. I see well groomed, chubby cheeks with nice eyes and eyebrows. If you stay within the Indian, Pakistani and Bengali community you will do fine, your height will also be less of an issue with fellow short people in your ethnic group.
 

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Have you tried without the beard?
 
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Bro no homo but u r xtremely handsome/attractive. perhaps too suave. like wtf u literally look like a male magazine model.I think the hot girls are just intimidated y'know? bcs I cant believe someone that looks like u gets rare IO's from em.
 

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Have to agree with OP above. Not sure how it works in the states but you look Indian/Pakistani and in a European country this will cut your dating choices down a bit . As it would for us in asia. I mean, our dating choices would be 0.00 in Lahore given everyone’s father and uncle would be chopping our balls off if we even looked at a local girl!
It isn’t fair but a lot of western gals will think “Asian player boy” given you’re very clean cut, use gear and dress very smartly. I can’t tell you how to get the right look but I know first hand a ton of women like a MASCULINE look and your look is good but it’s very…pretty. Perhaps gruff it up a bit, look a bit more dishevelled and down to earth.

you should still have some pretty good options OP. You look far better than I ever did at any age.

the other thing is that you’re not yet mid 30s I think and therefore you’re not at your prime.

Women don’t think entirely in terms of looks. Personality and status count. I don’t know your job but even looking as you do, if you’re an Uber driver you’re still a 5 for most women. You could grow a little gut and go bald and become a doctor and be an automatic 8 for lots of women.
 

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Bro no homo but u r xtremely handsome/attractive. perhaps too suave. like wtf u literally look like a male magazine model.I think the hot girls are just intimidated y'know? bcs I cant believe someone that looks like u gets rare IO's from em.
Seems pretty gay to me o_O
 
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