Instagram girls on OLD

[mikedee]

I think I've found something that works on OLD, so far it works pretty well for me. Let me explain.

There are obviously some problems with OLD but from my experience, yes there are a lot of fat girls, damaged girls, etc. but there are also a lot of hot and cool girls, almost every girl has Tinder, so to say there are not hot girls on OLD is like saying hot girls don't exist. Sometimes OLD keeps showing you hot girls, sometimes it keep showing you ugly girls/below average, sometimes just average girls. OLD doesn't show your profile enough to get matches, and it does it on purpose they want you to pay, we all know this. Nothing new. Yes girls have become more selective, but on OLD that is not the problem I think, the problem is the ones you like don't see your profile. I truly believe that an average guy with a good profile a good pics could get matches with cute girls, I know plenty of guys who used to get good results when Tinder was launched, in the beginning. Match Group has become greedy, so that's why it's difficult to get matches now. For example, I swipe the babes (the 9-10s), and I don't get matches, very very few, but when I do get matches, I get the babes. Anyway, it's just to prove that it has nothing to do with you, well, yes a bit if you have a ****ty profile and you are below below average, but if you have a nice profile and look ok, you should get matches, maybe not with the babes bit with decent girls.

I used to complain about the girls with instagram as a bio. I thought they would write their instagram only to get more followers and more validation, yes it happens a lot. But I've notice that some girls have privates accounts with a "normal" amount of followers. So I decided to test something. I swipe and when I see a girl I like, I check if she has instagram on her profile, then I swipe left or right it doesn't matter. I DM her on instagram, if her account is private it's even better, because if she accepts you it means that thinks that you are worth following her, to have access to her account, it's an indicator of interest. Once she accept you wait a day or two and you send her a message with your best photo. Depending on the girl, she might see your message and ignore it, she might not see your message because she has too many and she doesn't care or the message is stuck in spam, if no reply and you see she haven't see your message yet, drop a comment like "Hey Polina, check your DMs, by the way nice outfit, nice painting, nice whatever..." and wait. Make sure your instagram has content, ideally fun content and good pictures of you, the amount of followers is irrelevant I think, if you have a lot it helps of course, If you have like 300-400+ I think it's good. Of course this applies to guys why use instagram.

I messaged 4 girls. HB8 9 9 10 (my perfect 10), 2 of then haven't seen my message and probably won't, the other 2 (the best 2) have replied. I'm supposed to date the 9 (tall skinny Russian blonde, former gymnastic) this weekend, she double texts me, she's interested. My perfect 10 (tall skinny Czech brunette, musician and artist) immediately replied, we exchanged some messages, she even sent me 3 audio messages, now we'll see if she will keep replying, next reply I invite her on a date. She looks interested, at least she is curious.

I'm not telling you this to brag, they might flake on me or stop replying, it doesn't matter. My point is, don't pay for Tinder, with the instagrams you bypass the algorithm and give yourself a chance to be seen, you can shoot your shot. Actually it's like cold approaching but on instagram. If you're not on instagram well that is another story. I have instagram and I used it to showcase my work (photography), my instagram is OK, I can't remember last time I posted, but there is some cool content, some stories abroad, etc. I have approx. 550 followers. Now that I realize that instagram can be used as OLD, I will keep shooting (I had stopped) because first of all I like it, second and it makes my instagram profile more attractive, I will try to reach 1k.

Good luck!

 

[DreamAgain]

Good post.

What do you do on instagram to have so many followers by the way?

In real life I only have like 10 actual friends I would want to add and follow, people I call to hang out with, play sports, etc.

Also, it feels cringy to me to post staged pictures on vacation, wherever, like I'm flaunting my disposable income and attracting the highest bidder online.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Good post. Now lets wait for the OLD haters and Mode 1 guys to come to the thread and do their thing:

"OLD is full of trash. Cold approach and/or social circle and/or xyz is better" or some variation.

"That is not Mode 1. While you are sending her DMs on Intsa Im already banging her" or some variation.

Anyway, keep us updated on the girls @mikedee

 

[member160292]

My perfect 10 (tall skinny Czech brunette, musician and artist) immediately replied, we exchanged some messages, she even sent me 3 audio messages, now we'll see if she will keep replying, next reply I invite her on a date. She looks interested, at least she is curious.

Hell yeah, brotha. That's high IL right there.
My main plate always sends me audio messages and it's great to hear the language behind the words.

 

[mikedee]

Hell yeah, brotha. That's high IL right there.
My main plate always sends me audio messages and it's great to hear the language behind the words.

Audio message is usually a good IOI. Yeah but I think it's dead with the "10", she saw my last message and didn't reply but she posted a story. I think I showed a little too much interest, the thing is it's hard to find the perfect balance, if you're too platonic you're boring, if you show interest you're needy, if you're too direct you're this or that.. It also depends on the girl. I think she got her dose of validation and she moved on with something else. I will ask her out in a day or two, last call. If no reply or something that is not a "yes", unfollow, done. She looks like a super fun girl, super hot, creative, I mean not just a pretty face but she seems to entitled level 2+. She has options, she knows she's hot. I'm not going to kiss her ass or watch her stupid stories like a simp, I don't do that. I forgot to mention that she's half Czech half American, I feel the American vibe in her personality.

It's on with the other girl though (the Russian), I have good chance to meet her, she looks like she's more down to earth. But you know with those chicks, you can't rely on them, you hope for the best but expect the flake. They like you and 30mins later they change their mind for no particular reason. That how it works.

Date or not, the important that to get a chance to shoot your shot. That's the only thing that matters.

 

[mikedee]

Good post. Now lets wait for the OLD haters and Mode 1 guys to come to the thread and do their thing:

"OLD is full of trash. Cold approach and/or social circle and/or xyz is better" or some variation.

"That is not Mode 1. While you are sending her DMs on Intsa Im already banging her" or some variation.

Anyway, keep us updated on the girls @mikedee

OLD is good if you don't take it too seriously and if you use it as a complement to cold approach. I'm a cold approach guy, I've been cold approaching women for 15 years, this Mode1 things is BS, it's just a fancy way to say be direct and don't fvck around. As a pro "cold approacher" (I'm a pro because I approach almost everyday, I've failed more than anybody else, I got layd with the hottest), I can tell you that guys who claim to have consistent success with cold approach are liars, pure and simple. Daygame is hard man, but it's extremely rewarding in terms of skills and mindset.

By the way I approached a girl outside the metro today, it was a harsh rejection. I thought the girl had showed me IOI in the train, subtle IOIs, but apparently not haha. She was hot, but she looked like an introvert, nerdy girls, no makeup, glasses, etc. But I can see through, she has a pair of legs, a cute face, nice hands, I knew that naked she was probably a solid 8. I approached her she looked at me like I was dirt, and I talked to her in Czech for god's sake, at least some respect for the effort. She was in a hurry, she didn't let me finish my thing and left with a weird look on her face. But I think she was the kinf of girl who never get approached and felt uncomfortable because she was not used to such interaction with men, especially attractive men on the street. Maybe she thought why did I rejected him like that?? Maybe she thought that I was a fvkcing weirdo. Who cares, I did my job.

 

[mikedee]

Good post.

What do you do on instagram to have so many followers by the way?

In real life I only have like 10 actual friends I would want to add and follow, people I call to hang out with, play sports, etc.

Also, it feels cringy to me to post staged pictures on vacation, wherever, like I'm flaunting my disposable income and attracting the highest bidder online.

Thanks man, I'm a photographer so I managed to get some followers, it takes some times but if you're consistent about "liking" and posting you will see your followers grow, if you have good content of course. I have 4-5 friends and none of them really use instagram, I follow some people but I never watch their stories of their stuff, I don't waste my time on social medias, I don't comment I don't like, I just do my stuff on my page. I had stopped photography but I will go back home in a month and I will take my camera with me and start shooting models again for fun.
When a hot girl sees my profile, she sees hot models from model agencies, so it raises my value a bit, especially if I post stories while I'm on a date with them haha. No seriously, I think I will focus on my instagram, it's a great tool for dating. If I can reach 1K with a clean account, nice stories it's gonna help. I rarely post stuff about myself, only in stories so I don't look like the guy who wants to show off.

 

[DreamAgain]

Thanks man, I'm a photographer so I managed to get some followers, it takes some times but if you're consistent about "liking" and posting you will see your followers grow, if you have good content of course. I have 4-5 friends and none of them really use instagram, I follow some people but I never watch their stories of their stuff, I don't waste my time on social medias, I don't comment I don't like, I just do my stuff on my page. I had stopped photography but I will go back home in a month and I will take my camera with me and start shooting models again for fun.
When a hot girl sees my profile, she sees hot models from model agencies, so it raises my value a bit, especially if I post stories while I'm on a date with them haha. No seriously, I think I will focus on my instagram, it's a great tool for dating. If I can reach 1K with a clean account, nice stories it's gonna help. I rarely post stuff about myself, only in stories so I don't look like the guy who wants to show off.

Well see, your approach is only applicable for you because a normal person cannot photograph models and place them on his instagram.

So you are carving out a unique niche that should have been prefaced in your first post, because it seemed like anyone could achieve what you did through Instagram with some effort, when clearly the average guy could never get close.

 

[DreamAgain]

I would rephrase, a guy who was sociable throughout high school and college and his early professional career, added everyone he knew, and continuously posted and displayed his social value could achieve similar results to you.

 

[mikedee]

I would rephrase, a guy who was sociable throughout high school and college and his early professional career, added everyone he knew, and continuously posted and displayed his social value could achieve similar results to you.

Yes exactly, actually a mix of both would be the best. Because yes shooting models is edgy, but if they (the girls I want to date) want to stalk me, they is nothing to stalk really. I need to show some social circle/high value stuff, and for me it's difficult because I'm a loner, I have no interest in traveling to fancy places like the Maldives or going to EDM festivals and get fcked up. I'm more of a intellectual guy, who likes to sit at home on a Friday night with 2 bottles of wine and a 6 packs and listen to Genesis or the complete discography of Fela Kuti wasted until I pass out.

Since I'm always alone, who can take pictures of me while doing cool activities? (traveling, shooting, at the gym, etc..). That is my "weakness", some girls like the Alpha male who is popular in his social circle, I'm more of a Sigma male, if it's really a thing.

 

[mikedee]

Well see, your approach is only applicable for you because a normal person cannot photograph models and place them on his instagram.

So you are carving out a unique niche that should have been prefaced in your first post, because it seemed like anyone could achieve what you did through Instagram with some effort, when clearly the average guy could never get close.

It can be learned, photography and DJing are chicks magnets hobbies, a bit expensive but once you have your gear, you're good to go.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I would rephrase, a guy who was sociable throughout high school and college and his early professional career, added everyone he knew, and continuously posted and displayed his social value could achieve similar results to you.

It's really not that hard to fake, I went to a bunch of meetups and got photos of me in groups doing cool stuff. I also have lots of travel photos.

You could always create a bunch of fake accounts to comment on your profile for some social proof.

 

[DreamAgain]

It's really not that hard to fake, I went to a bunch of meetups and got photos of me in groups doing cool stuff. I also have lots of travel photos.

You could always create a bunch of fake accounts to comment on your profile for some social proof.

I have considered this, but I figured I'd rather be alone than poison my soul doing this.

Each person has a tolerance for the "fake it until you make it" approach. Mine isn't that high unfortunately.

 

[mikedee]

I have considered this, but I figured I'd rather be alone than poison my soul doing this.

Each person has a tolerance for the "fake it until you make it" approach. Mine isn't that high unfortunately.

Yes same here. I would never do that, I just can't. I'm not that type of person, I can't fake being someone else, it makes no sense to me. It's called integrity, the most important quality. I am who I am and I try to make the best out of, I don't want to rely on social proof to look cool, I'm cool and I don't need anybody to judge if I am or not. I don't want people to decide my value. I wish instagram was never invented. It changed our society for the worse, and now there is Tiktok, what a bunch of clowns....

 

[patb]

I have considered this, but I figured I'd rather be alone than poison my soul doing this.

Each person has a tolerance for the "fake it until you make it" approach. Mine isn't that high unfortunately.

I've found that mine has crept upwards as I've gotten older (though not fast enough). If I could do it all over again, I think I'd just sell out and be a vacuous social media *****. I can't say I've gotten anything out of life standing for principle.

 

[DreamAgain]

I've found that mine has crept upwards as I've gotten older (though not fast enough). If I could do it all over again, I think I'd just sell out and be a vacuous social media *****. I can't say I've gotten anything out of life standing for principle.

Well, interesting. The only benefit I can see is access to women and sleeping with them. Which gets old very quickly if you don't have a mental/emotional connection with them. It is just like all the pornography that occupies thousands of terabytes on the internet.

Doesn't seem like you missed out on much.

 

[patb]

Well, interesting. The only benefit I can see is access to women and sleeping with them. Which gets old very quickly if you don't have a mental/emotional connection with them. It is just like all the pornography that occupies thousands of terabytes on the internet.

Doesn't seem like you missed out on much.

I don't really disagree, but it's still better than nothing. I don't think a mental/emotional connection is in the cards.

 

[DreamAgain]

I don't really disagree, but it's still better than nothing. I don't think a mental/emotional connection is in the cards.

Getting nothing just means you haven't maximized your looks. I don't know your situation but the cliches really are true, when I started working out more, dressing with fitted clothing, good haircut, and improved my social skills, I attracted and was with numerous women.

They didn't work out long term of course, but in terms of hooking up, the blueprint is simple. Maximize what you can and play the numbers.

To be honest it gets boring though, but do it if you still buy into the hype.

 

[patb]

Getting nothing just means you haven't maximized your looks. I don't know your situation but the cliches really are true, when I started working out more, dressing with fitted clothing, good haircut, and improved my social skills, I attracted and was with numerous women.

They didn't work out long term of course, but in terms of hooking up, the blueprint is simple. Maximize what you can and play the numbers.

To be honest it gets boring though, but do it if you still buy into the hype.

I can get ONS/short term easily enough. That's what I was saying: I do it because it's still better than nothing, and I've given up on finding the vaunted "connection."

 

[pipeman84]

By the way I approached a girl outside the metro today, it was a harsh rejection. I thought the girl had showed me IOI in the train, subtle IOIs, but apparently not haha. She was hot, but she looked like an introvert, nerdy girls, no makeup, glasses, etc. But I can see through, she has a pair of legs, a cute face, nice hands, I knew that naked she was probably a solid 8. I approached her she looked at me like I was dirt, and I talked to her in Czech for god's sake, at least some respect for the effort. She was in a hurry, she didn't let me finish my thing and left with a weird look on her face.

Man, I appreciate you for telling it like it is. The derision I got in the cold approaching thread for saying that's the reality.
If one enjoys going through 100+ of these till they stumble on some ditzy bimbo that offers them mediocre sex, keep doing it. But to claim that giving a random girl the power to treat you like this is what boldness and being a man is about, is laughable.