Can anyone educate me on the conflict in Dagestan

[eli77]

I believe a certain MMA fighter come from there and they produce a lot of top soldiers boxers and wrestlers as well just wanted to know who's from there on here and what's the political climate there

 

[sangheilios]

Dagestan has a muslim majority population, that entire region of southern Russia and the Caucasus has long been a place of tremendous conflict and religious/ethnic strife. Azerbaijan and Armenia have long been in a small scale conflict over territory, even to this day. Russia invaded a region of Georgia, Abkhazia and Ossetia, in 2008. These are just a couple examples in more recent times. Many of these regions have been seeking independence from Russia and I believe that we may see the Russian federation collapse due to the war in Ukraine. What I see is something similar to what happened when the Soviet Union collapsed, where we see many nations gain their full-blown independence. Certain parts of Siberia as well as in the Caucasus region or some examples of this.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Dagestan has a muslim majority population, that entire region of southern Russia and the Caucasus has long been a place of tremendous conflict and religious/ethnic strife. Azerbaijan and Armenia have long been in a small scale conflict over territory, even to this day. Russia invaded a region of Georgia, Abkhazia and Ossetia, in 2008. These are just a couple examples in more recent times. Many of these regions have been seeking independence from Russia and I believe that we may see the Russian federation collapse due to the war in Ukraine. What I see is something similar to what happened when the Soviet Union collapsed, where we see many nations gain their full-blown independence. Certain parts of Siberia as well as in the Caucasus region or some examples of this.

CNN & MSNBC watcher spotted

 

[sangheilios]

CNN & MSNBC watcher spotted

No, I don't watch TV. Those smaller scale conflicts are a real thing. This invasion of Ukraine is a massive nightmare for Putin, he took a gamble and it's costing him. Not only is Russia bogged down in this invasion, that's been going on for almost a year, but it's actions spurred both Sweden and Finland into joining NATO. The Baltic Sea is now a NATO lake and now it's arctic naval bases of Arkhangelsk can easily be cut off from supply. Russia wanted to go into Ukraine to install a pro Russian government as well as annex territory to create a buffer zone from a NATO land invasion. I'm sure there are also many behind the scenes things going on that none of us on here are privy to.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

No, I don't watch TV. Those smaller scale conflicts are a real thing. This invasion of Ukraine is a massive nightmare for Putin, he took a gamble and it's costing him. Not only is Russia bogged down in this invasion, that's been going on for almost a year, but it's actions spurred both Sweden and Finland into joining NATO. The Baltic Sea is now a NATO lake and now it's arctic naval bases of Arkhangelsk can easily be cut off from supply. Russia wanted to go into Ukraine to install a pro Russian government as well as annex territory to create a buffer zone from a NATO land invasion. I'm sure there are also many behind the scenes things going on that none of us on here are privy to.

That's funny because you are spewing the same paranoid Russophobia shvt CNN constantly cries about. If Russia is so weak then tell your boy Biden to tell mean old Putin to pull out of Ukraine or he will invade them. Oh wait, it's all BS.

 

[sangheilios]

That's funny because you are spewing the same paranoid Russophobia shvt CNN constantly cries about. If Russia is so weak then tell your boy Biden to tell mean old Putin to pull out of Ukraine or he will invade them. Oh wait, it's all BS.

Russophobe lol? I'm just calling it for what it is. Look at any map and you can clearly see how Sweden and Finland joining NATO makes Russia's strategic position in the Baltic and Karelia far less than ideal.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Russophobe lol? I'm just calling it for what it is. Look at any map and you can clearly see how Sweden and Finland joining NATO makes Russia's strategic position in the Baltic and Karelia far less than ideal.

You are clearly Russophobe. Sweden and Finland joining NATO mean jack shvt compared the US already outnumbering Russia population by 200 million people and choke pointing them in at the North Sea, Bosphorus Strait, and the Sea of Japan. Russia poses zero threat yet to the US yet you are over spewing doomsday BS. Worry about something more concerning like climate change or something dude.

 

[SargeMaximus]

If Russia is so weak how come they aren’t defeated yet? Billions of Dollars and military aid and… crickets

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

If Russia is so weak how come they aren’t defeated yet? Billions of Dollars and military aid and… crickets

According to CNN, yes I watch it sometimes, Putin was supposed to die of Cancer this summer or the economy was supposed to implode in May because Mcdonalds left.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

“Never get involved in a land war Crimea.”
-Vladzinni

 

[sangheilios]

You are clearly Russophobe. Sweden and Finland joining NATO mean jack shvt compared the US already outnumbering Russia population by 200 million people and choke pointing them in at the North Sea, Bosphorus Strait, and the Sea of Japan. Russia poses zero threat yet to the US yet you are over spewing doomsday BS. Worry about something more concerning like climate change or something dude.

I'm not worried about it, just look at a damn map. If I was a Russian military leader that was preparing for a war/defense against NATO I would not be happy with Finland and Sweden joining, as it makes my position on the board far more disadvantageous. My Baltic fleet is an even worse position than before, with little chance of it reaching to the North Sea intact. Sweden in the picture also gives more protection to the Baltic countries from airbases there, especially from the island of Gotland which lies right in the middle of the Baltic like an unsinkable aircraft carrier. With Finland in the picture, St. Petersburg is easily within reach of a land assault and my naval bases in Arkhangelsk can also be severed from supply.

In addition to this, the war in Ukraine has led to many casualties but also resulted in many young Russian men to fleeing the country to avoid the draft, men that will otherwise not be contributing to the economy there. With a nation that is currently experiencing declining fertility rates and a rapidly aging population it is not in a good position for success down the road. This is not a unique issue to Russia though, this also applies to places like Japan, China, S. Korea and certain European countries with low immigration and high emigration, eastern and southern European countries in particular.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I'm not worried about it, just look at a damn map. If I was a Russian military leader that was preparing for a war/defense against NATO I would not be happy with Finland and Sweden joining, as it makes my position on the board far more disadvantageous. My Baltic fleet is an even worse position than before, with little chance of it reaching to the North Sea intact. Sweden in the picture also gives more protection to the Baltic countries from airbases there, especially from the island of Gotland which lies right in the middle of the Baltic like an unsinkable aircraft carrier. With Finland in the picture, St. Petersburg is easily within reach of a land assault and my naval bases in Arkhangelsk can also be severed from supply.

A Russian military leader is more worried about fighting a country that outnumbers him by 200 million people let alone a whole alliance more so than Sweden and Finland. GTFO with your Russophobia BS. That shvt might work on your subreddit, but you are in a different playing field out here.

 

[sangheilios]

A Russian military leader is more worried about fighting a country that outnumbers him by 200 million people let alone a whole alliance more so than Sweden and Finland. GTFO with your Russophobia BS. That shvt might work on your subreddit, but you are in a different playing field out here.

You really don't get it do you? It's clear that all of these moves between NATO and Russia are a giant chess game about aligning their pieces on the board. This is something that has gone on for centuries. Did you know that in the fall of 1940 the Soviet Union approached Hitler about joining the axis powers? Stalin wanted influence over the Bosporus because it guaranteed access to the Mediterranean from the warm water ports of the Crimea. They also wanted certain islands of Finland to boost their defense of then Leningrad as well as the artic bases.

Russia is a rapidly declining power and it's on it's final legs of being able to line up the chess pieces how it wants. Both Russia and China have a rapidly closing window in regard to lining up their geopolitical pieces due to a coming population collapse that will happen in our lifetime, especially the case for China.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You really don't get it do you? It's clear that all of these moves between NATO and Russia are a giant chess game about aligning their pieces on the board. This is something that has gone on for centuries. Did you know that in the fall of 1940 the Soviet Union approached Hitler about joining the axis powers? Stalin wanted influence over the Bosporus because it guaranteed access to the Mediterranean from the warm water ports of the Crimea. They also wanted certain islands of Finland to boost their defense of then Leningrad as well as the artic bases.

Russia is a rapidly declining power and it's on it's final legs of being able to line up the chess pieces how it wants. Both Russia and China have a rapidly closing window in regard to lining up their geopolitical pieces due to a coming population collapse that will happen in our lifetime, especially the case for China.

I'm not scared of Russia or China dude. They are severely limited by their geography and population hurdles.

 

[sangheilios]

I'm not scared of Russia or China dude. They are severely limited by their geography and population hurdles.

It sounds like we are both on the same page. I'm not worried about any of this stuff, it's just an interesting conversation to have.

 

[Fruitbat]

Russia won the 2nd world war by pretty much every metric.

that’s the completely obvious history they didn’t teach me in school.

Germany surrendered to Russians.
russians essentially ethnically cleansed Germany by knocking up all of their women (that’s what sadly tends to happen when someone wins a war)
took the most ground
Post war, took half of Europe. Britain and the US didn’t want to fight the red army (at the time it wa looking likely the war would end with a west v Russia war to kind of decide the winner)
Russia lost the most men by a long way.

We won the Cold War, but the western theatre was a walk in the park V the east. There’s a reason Hitler went for Russia in 41.

Back To the present. TheGreat thing about this war is that the public are finally waking up to the utter BS of the MSM. Elon buying Twitter helps.

Most of the world thinks the west are the bad guys. There is a reason for this. The US led empire has been sticking its nose where it isn’t wanted since the end of the Cold War.

they rely on misinformation and xenophobia to garner your democratic consent.

In the 80s it was rhe libyans, watch back to the future. It was Iraqis and Muslims for a while, now it’s Russia.

Orwell was a genius when he coined “we have always been at war with oceana”

It relies on a poorly educated public and peer pressure and it’s worked for a long time. I sincerely hope we get a new president in the WH and these corrupt politicians get thrown out of the swamp.

as for the current war, nobody other than the fins (for a short while) have beaten the red army. Napoleon couldn’t. Hitler couldn’t, if we think some old guy who smells like pee, with a team of diversity hires and men who don’t know their gender is going fo beat them now, think on.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

We won the Cold War, but the western theatre was a walk in the park V the east. There’s a reason Hitler went for Russia in 41.

It’s really shocking that the USSR survived that long during the Cold War given all resources it used to win WW2 and being the USSR itself. I don’t see China being no where as strong as the USSR superpower wise, but the cracks in the US are quite evident.