Dating gets infinitely easier as you get older

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To the younger guys on this forum struggling with women I just wanted to say: don’t lose hope. Invest in yourself during your teens and early 20s and getting women will be infinitely easier as you get into your mid-to-late-20s.... dating today as compared to when I was 18 is like playing tennis with the net down - It’s almost too easy.

Many of my friends got into depressions when they were younger due to women not paying them any attention; today they are laughing it off and feeling some remorse that they didn’t listen to their fathers / uncles who relayed the exact same message as above. Invest in yourself and women will come in abundance
 

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I would argue that 26-32 are the peak years for most men. There is a school of thought in the Manosphere that late 30s/early 40s is peak SMV. I believe that 35-45 is a bit overrated as peak SMV. Most 35-45 year old men are pusssy beggars who will settle for a mediocre to subpar woman close to his own age.

It takes something exceptional to get a woman 10+ years younger. Try being 42 and getting a 29 year old. It's easier to get a 29 year old at 31 than 42. Of course, at 31, a 25-26 year old isn't a stretch either.

The biggest advantage about being an 18-24 male is that you are constantly around unmarried and childless people. Access to the best pool of women becomes more difficult after age 25 or so. I like 26-32 because you're an older man to the most desirable 20-25 year old women but not too old and have to be extraordinary to compete for these women. A lot of 33+ men do have a difficult time getting women who are 8-10 years younger because their SMV isn't high enough to achieve that, but it is high enough to get a woman 1-3 years younger.
 

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I would argue that 26-32 are the peak years for most men. There is a school of thought in the Manosphere that late 30s/early 40s is peak SMV. I believe that 35-45 is a bit overrated as peak SMV. Most 35-45 year old men are pusssy beggars who will settle for a mediocre to subpar woman close to his own age.

It takes something exceptional to get a woman 10+ years younger. Try being 42 and getting a 29 year old. It's easier to get a 29 year old at 31 than 42. Of course, at 31, a 25-26 year old isn't a stretch either.

The biggest advantage about being an 18-24 male is that you are constantly around unmarried and childless people. Access to the best pool of women becomes more difficult after age 25 or so. I like 26-32 because you're an older man to the most desirable 20-25 year old women but not too old and have to be extraordinary to compete for these women. A lot of 33+ men do have a difficult time getting women who are 8-10 years younger because their SMV isn't high enough to achieve that, but it is high enough to get a woman 1-3 years younger.
I don’t mean to seem arrogant but this is not my experience. Is there any research to support this?

Or maybe to put it another way, out last night at an upscale pub with nice furniture and seating,

I left a bartender their mt number a few weeks ago and no calls back so I decided I am going to put on a small clinic. On first crack I got in a selfie in these girls photo like 2 minutes walking into this bar. Right in front of my target.

Later we shared a couch with a different set of couple of 29 year olds and their gay friends.Settling in then I for the most part kept to myself but finally got the better of me and said hello. I had my hands in this girls hair in short order and with the one gay guy practically passing out on the couch the timing just didn’t work. These girls were fun but I wouldn’t consider them trash. I didn’t go for phone numbers but I did gather enough during the conversation that I am actually going to reach out to the one I didn’t fool around with because I perceive her to be of higher value.
Also I said nothing to that bartender all night. I just completely froze her out. Im not sure what to do. I’m glad I didn’t waste time. I like the one girl I’m referring to here. Looking forward to calling her cold call style and seeing how that goes.

What am I doing here that’s such a big deal? I even wasn’t dressed great. My friend had a Rolex, nice pants and a wine red corduroy jacket, I had a zip hoodie, jeans and basketball sneakers. Again I’m really not trying to be a smart ass. Are you possibly making regionally based assumptions or what’s the deal?
 
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I don’t mean to seem arrogant but this is not my experience. Is there any research to support this?

Or maybe to put it another way, out last night at an upscale pub with nice furniture and seating,

I left a bartender their mt number a few weeks ago and no calls back so I decided I am going to put on a small clinic. On first crack I got in a selfie in these girls photo like 2 minutes walking into this bar. Right in front of my target.

Later we shared a couch with a different set of couple of 29 year olds and their gay friends.Settling in then I for the most part kept to myself but finally got the better of me and said hello. I had my hands in this girls hair in short order and with the one gay guy practically passing out on the couch the timing just didn’t work. These girls were fun but I wouldn’t consider them trash. I didn’t go for phone numbers but I did gather enough during the conversation that I am actually going to reach out to the one I didn’t fool around with because I perceive her to be of higher value.
Also I said nothing to that bartender all night. I just completely froze her out. Im not sure what to do. I’m glad I didn’t waste time. I like the one girl I’m referring to here. Looking forward to calling her cold call style and seeing how that goes.

What am I doing here that’s such a big deal? I even wasn’t dressed great. My friend had a Rolex, nice pants and a wine red corduroy jacket, I had a zip hoodie, jeans and basketball sneakers. Again I’m really not trying to be a smart ass. Are you possibly making regionally based assumptions or what’s the deal?
In my experience women generally view you as "in your prime" until early/mid 40's
 

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To the younger guys on this forum struggling with women I just wanted to say: don’t lose hope. Invest in yourself during your teens and early 20s and getting women will be infinitely easier as you get into your mid-to-late-20s.... dating today as compared to when I was 18 is like playing tennis with the net down - It’s almost too easy.

Many of my friends got into depressions when they were younger due to women not paying them any attention; today they are laughing it off and feeling some remorse that they didn’t listen to their fathers / uncles who relayed the exact same message as above. Invest in yourself and women will come in abundance
Would you say you are blue-pill or red-pill success story?
 
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Yes, it comes down to money and experience. Many men in their 20’s are easily influenced to settle down since they have yet to develop a backbone. It’s normal and those failed relationships will prepare you for your 30’s, which is the prime of your dating life
 

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In my late 30's thru early 40's I had no problem getting girls. I've been in an LTR the past few so can't speak for mid 40's.
 

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I replied on another thread.
I think self development and bettering yourself can be both Blue pill and red pill, the difference is whether you put the woman on a pedestal, which I have never done and never will, but I do care deeply for the women I date (while I date them)
 

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I think self development and bettering yourself can be both Blue pill and red pill, the difference is whether you put the woman on a pedestal, which I have never done and never will, but I do care deeply for the women I date (while I date them)
Did you focus more on money/status maxxing or gym/looks/game maxxing?
 

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I was at peak banging from 29-31. At 33 and married, I get even more looks from women. The wedding ring attracts female attention, sadly.
 

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In your mid 30s is easier to get laid than in your early 20s but the girls you manage to bang in your early 20s are better than the old ones you get later.

The peak for me is late 20s/early 30s, before that its too much of a low quantity while after that it's too much of a low quality.

Who gives an F if 5 girls flirt with me at the gym when they are in their early 30s and chase me cause I'm a "good enough" of a deal rather than those hooked up on me personally 10 years earlier.
 

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