Girl Returned my books but…

[BackInTheGame78]

So that girl that had my books returned them but she is clearly not into me anymore. She left them in the door in a plastic bag and texted me that she left them. Didn’t even want to see me apparently.

Not sure what happened. This is the same girl who was saying she couldn’t stop thinking about the orgasm I gave her. I didn’t contact her till a month later and by then she was already clearly off me.

Another point towards the “giving women orgasms is beta” theory I have.

anyhow, its a mystery.

I'm not sure how not contacting a woman for a month is a mystery as to why she isn't interested anymore. You basically told her to fvck off without telling her to fvck off.

This screams lack of social tact and/or acumen.

No woman that tells you she is busy for the next month is saying "don't contact me for a month".

You not contacting her is basically telling her "I'm only interested in using you for sex", which may actually be true, but you cannot make a woman feel like that's all she is to you. You have to "play the game" a little bit so she feels like you are interested in her.

If you make a woman feel like a wh0re(outside the bedroom), she will despise you in a way few other things will outdo.

 

[The Duke]

You had sex with a girl, she said she loved it, then you didn't speak to her for a month...ends in Automatic game over.

Guarantee she felt used by you not reaching out. You hurt her feelings. Has nothing to do with orgasms.

You have to take what women say with a grain of salt. They all expect us to read their ever changing emotional minds. At times They say one thing, think another, and do something else.

Chalk it up to a learning experience and find another one.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I'm not sure how not contacting a woman for a month is a mystery as to why she isn't interested anymore. You basically told her to fvck off without telling her to fvck off.

This screams lack of social tact and/or acumen.

And yet if I had contacted her y’all would be saying “She literally told you she was busy for a month bro!” So ima call BS on all this right now

 

[Bokanovsky]

It’s so bewildering!
Look, supposedly not contacting a girl every five seconds is supposed to be a good thing so I figured I didn’t have to

Whoever told you that gave terrible advice.

 

[The Duke]

I'm not sure how not contacting a woman for a month is a mystery as to why she isn't interested anymore. You basically told her to fvck off without telling her to fvck off.

This screams lack of social tact and/or acumen.

Social tact/calibration etc is a concept that doesnt get much air time here. It's hard to explain, but you learn thru experience. The non verbal cues and developing your intuition keep you out of these issues.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

And yet if I had contacted her y’all would be saying “She literally told you she was busy for a month bro!” So ima call BS on all this right now

No...that's simply you trying to make excuses.

 

[The Duke]

And yet if I had contacted her y’all would be saying “She literally told you she was busy for a month bro!” So ima call BS on all this right now

It's not black and white. It's not 5sec vs. 1 month.

It's not about orgasm or no orgasm.

 

[SargeMaximus]

No...that's simply you trying to make excuses.

No it’s not. I’ve done this before and it ended the same way.

It's not black and white. It's not 5sec vs. 1 month.

It's not about orgasm or no orgasm.

And yet the orgasm is the only common denominator. Only girl I had a long relationship with I didn’t get off in 14 months and hundreds of times having sex. Other women I get off a lot and they never last. Pretty fvcking obvious if you as me.
As for the contact thing, how would you go about it if a girl said she was busy for a month?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

No it’s not. I’ve done this before and it ended the same way.



And yet the orgasm is the only common denominator. Only girl I had a long relationship with I didn’t get off in 14 months and hundreds of times having sex. Other women I get off a lot and they never last. Pretty fvcking obvious if you as me.
As for the contact thing, how would you go about it if a girl said she was busy for a month?

Trust me bro...it wasn't due to not giving her orgasms, it was due to your inability to understand even basic social dynamics between men and women.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Trust me bro...it wasn't due to not giving her orgasms, it was due to your inability to understand even basic social dynamics between men and women.

But I did give her an orgasm. I have the text to prove it. She texted me while she was supposed to be studying to gush about it.
and lol @ “basic social dynamics” what does that even mean? Because most men are simps so are you suggesting I be like them? I thought this was a pua forum. We shouldn’t be striving for basic dynamics here

 

[SargeMaximus]

As a woman, I am a bit surprised at some of these comments.

I cannot envision any woman who was/is truly into you saying this. Not gonna happen.

If she did say it for whatever reason (a shyt test), and you respected her words and didn't contact her, and she regretted it later, you better believe SHE would be picking up that phone to call you or text you.

Continuing to contact her after she flat out told you she'd be busy for a month is how women become entitled princesses. And men earn the reputation of being a simp.

@Atom Smasher made a great post in another thread about men requiring women to put forth effort and "work" in order to prove herself worthy and qualify herself.

I agree with him! To a certain extent anyway. And again I am a woman saying this.

I think @Pan87 mentioned this but many of you guys are the ones who have created women's entitlement mindset that you often complain about. By suggesting exactly what you are suggesting @SargeMaximus to do.

When a chick is interested in you (1) she is NOT gonna tell you she's busy for a MONTH and (2) she will put forth effort, initiate, text, call.

Again, its instinctive.

If she doesn't, move the hell on is my advice.

Exactly. I agree with you here. I think most men on this board don’t know what they are talking about. As for her orgasm, below is the text as proof that she WAS gushing about it

so once again we are back to giving a woman an orgasm not Meaning a damn thing

 

[Luni]

Sarge, I really feel like there may have been (and still may be) some serious shyt testing happening on her part.

Like her telling you one thing, but meaning another. Hoping you're some sort of psychic mind reader who knows what she wants (you chasing her) without her actually having to tell you and in fact, telling you the opposite!

Since you're not a mind reader and she clearly told you she'd be busy for a month, you left her alone, and didn't chase her.
And thus, you failed the shyt test.

I could be wrong but that's the sense I get.

Call it **** testing or call it female nature. Either way, "act as if" [you're the prize].

The amount of girls I've had push me away while kissing, only to wait for me to pull them back in for more..

It's an art as much of a science. Reading between the lines comes naturally at some point. And if it doesn't, follow your desire

 

[SargeMaximus]

Call it **** testing or call it female nature. Either way, "act as if" [you're the prize].

The amount of girls I've had push me away while kissing, only to wait for me to pull them back in for more..

It's an art as much of a science. Reading between the lines comes naturally at some point. And if it doesn't, follow your desire

As the prize, I don’t have time nor energy to try and cater to females games. Either they serving me in bed or I ain’t interested

 

[jaymbrs]

Busy with school for a month = I'm ****ing other guys and not sure what I want right now.

This broad sounds like she wanted to have her cake and eat it too by telling you she's going to be unavailable and then expecting you to chase her.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Busy with school for a month = I'm ****ing other guys and not sure what I want right now.

This broad sounds like she wanted to have her cake and eat it too by telling you she's going to be unavailable and then expecting you to chase her.

That seems very likely to me, yes

 

[The Duke]

As the prize, I don’t have time nor energy to try and cater to females games. Either they serving me in bed or I ain’t interested

Exactly, you shouldn't cater to female games and they should satisfy you. However, there is a bit of song and dance you must play to maximize your opportunities. It comes in the form of foreplay, flirting, building intrigue, slight investment, triggering emotions, getting her invested, etc.

If you want black and white, cut to the chase with little to no investment(no song and dance required) then its Tinder wh0res or hookers. There are no free rides. You pay with cash(hookers) or you pay by investing time and emotions(girlfriends). Even plates require some minimal investment.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Exactly, you shouldn't cater to female games and they should satisfy you. However, there is a bit of song and dance you must play to maximize your opportunities. It comes in the form of foreplay, flirting, building intrigue, slight investment, triggering emotions, getting her invested, etc.

If you want black and white, cut to the chase with little to no investment(no song and dance required) then its Tinder wh0res or hookers. There are no free rides. You pay with cash(hookers) or you pay by investing time and emotions(girlfriends). Even plates require some minimal investment.

I just don’t know how to do that

 

[The Duke]

As for the contact thing, how would you go about it if a girl said she was busy for a month?

I would not have taken it that she was too busy to meet up for a month. Women are never as rational or as literal as men.

A few days after you had sehx, I'd of texted a pic of a naughty school girl with her nose buried in a book and asked her what she was studying.

A week after that I'd of invited her over. She either accepts or gives you an excuse not to. If its an excuse then forget her. If she is too busy then its up to her to reconnect and time for you to find the next one.

This way you don't run the risk of offending her(by pump and dump and letting 1 month go by with no contact), and you aren't out anything but some simple texts. You also haven't come across as beta.

Also, as the posters above have posted, anything is possible. Who knows what this girl was up to or where her interest level truly was. Maybe she was cheating on her boyfriend. You'll never know and it doesn't matter.

But just don't shoot yourself in the foot by blowing her off for a month.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I would not have taken it that she was too busy to meet up for a month. Women are never as rational or as literal as men.

A few days after you had sehx, I'd of texted a pic of a naughty school girl with her nose buried in a book and asked her what she was studying.

A week after that I'd of invited her over. She either accepts or gives you an excuse not to. If its an excuse then forget her. If she is too busy then its up to her to reconnect and time for you to find the next one.

This way you don't run the risk of offending her(by pump and dump and letting 1 month go by with no contact), and you aren't out anything but some simple texts. You also haven't come across as beta.

Also, as the posters above have posted, anything is possible. Who knows what this girl was up to or where her interest level truly was. Maybe she was cheating on her boyfriend. You'll never know and it doesn't matter.

But just don't shoot yourself in the foot by blowing her off for a month.

I see. I doubt that would have made a difference.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Dude this is hilarious. She said she’d be busy for a MONTH??? Is she a Fortune 500 CEO? No one’s busy for a month lol. You’re just a couple of dumb college kids figuring life out. Go spin more plates and get some workouts in.

First of all, it’s school. Second of all, I don’t appreciate nor need your ignorant bro advice. Blocked