How to establish FWB with an acquaintance?

Mr Bigglesworth

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This question is not for women you meet off a dating app or bar. It's pretty straight forward to establish FWB like that. My question is geared towards women that you already have a platonic relationship with in your everyday life. If I start pursuing them I feel like they will think I want a relationship. I don't want to lead them into thinking that then pull a switcheroo on them, but I also don't want to just blurt out that I'm looking for a FWB at the start because that would kill the vibe.

I guess I could just gradually ramp up the flirtiness/sexualness, although I'd like to hear some specific details/tips.
 

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I also don't want to just blurt out that I'm looking for a FWB at the start because that would kill the vibe.
Kill what vibe? What vibe are you having with these women? There's no vibe, they are not your friends or family. Grab your balls and be direct with them and say you want to fvck. You'll quickly find out if they find you attractive or not.
 

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I guess I could just gradually ramp up the flirtiness/sexualness, although I'd like to hear some specific details/tips.
That's probably the best way to do it, though I think we would need more context. Is this a co-worker? A neighbor? Some platonic female friend from your leisure time?

If you're in a well established friend zone, you could ramp things up, but that's not a high probability play. If it's a mere acquaintance, the ramp up could work, but there are better uses of time.

Frame is everything. Start every relationship with a sexual frame.

I don't have female platonic friends. I don't hit on my female co-workers.

Former co-workers are a thing. You are free to ask someone out if she's leaving the company or you are leaving the company. It's ideal to do that under a resignation scenario than termination. Also, if either she or you are terminated, you might not have the luxury of having time to do that in-person, and that's if you're being terminated in-person these days. A lot of terminations now are done over video conferencing software.

Also, as a terminated guy, you have zero SMV in her eyes. Male SMV is closely tied to employment. If she was terminated, male SMV remains healthy, but there are other problems. She might not be in a frame of mind to date. If she was terminated as part of a mass layoff at work and you survived the mass layoff, you might not be in a great place either because now you're going to need to do a job search in a lot of cases.

In white collar work, most companies try to do everything they can to protect their female talent. Males are more likely to be laid off first. The least likely to be laid off are minority females, whereas the most likely to be laid off are White males. Female talent is only laid off if their performance is absolutely terrible and/or the company is in a very bad place, likely a sinking ship.
 

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Kill what vibe? What vibe are you having with these women? There's no vibe, they are not your friends or family. Grab your balls and be direct with them and say you want to fvck. You'll quickly find out if they find you attractive or not.
Being overly blunt early in the relationship has a low success rate. Could scare off a lot of women even if they're attracted to you. It also potentially lowers your social reputation if it fails and she is in your social circle

That's probably the best way to do it, though I think we would need more context. Is this a co-worker? A neighbor? Some platonic female friend from your leisure time?

If you're in a well established friend zone, you could ramp things up, but that's not a high probability play. If it's a mere acquaintance, the ramp up could work, but there are better uses of time.

Frame is everything. Start every relationship with a sexual frame.

I don't have female platonic friends. I don't hit on my female co-workers.

Former co-workers are a thing. You are free to ask someone out if she's leaving the company or you are leaving the company. It's ideal to do that under a resignation scenario than termination. Also, if either she or you are terminated, you might not have the luxury of having time to do that in-person, and that's if you're being terminated in-person these days. A lot of terminations now are done over video conferencing software.

Also, as a terminated guy, you have zero SMV in her eyes. Male SMV is closely tied to employment. If she was terminated, male SMV remains healthy, but there are other problems. She might not be in a frame of mind to date. If she was terminated as part of a mass layoff at work and you survived the mass layoff, you might not be in a great place either because now you're going to need to do a job search in a lot of cases.

In white collar work, most companies try to do everything they can to protect their female talent. Males are more likely to be laid off first. The least likely to be laid off are minority females, whereas the most likely to be laid off are White males. Female talent is only laid off if their performance is absolutely terrible and/or the company is in a very bad place, likely a sinking ship.
There's a few in a similar situation but the one I'm most interested in is a woman I've talked to a few times at a sport I play. Probably a good SMV in her eyes with that context. It's a fresh relationship so there's a good chance to take it in any direction. I agree with the rest of your comment
 
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The FWB zone is known as the Minor League zone. The girl likes you enough to have sex/hooking with, but there's something missing that keeps you from advancing to the next stage in the relationship. You are basically there to satisfy dry spells, long single periods or satisfy her in dead bedroom relationships. This is usually established early in the relationship though, not in the middle or the end. Your goal is to aim for sex as soon as possible to get her too invested in you. For example, I met this one girl and we had sex, but I could tell she was looking for something else relationship wise. My theory is that she didn't want to show her dad a black guy unless he was a surgeon or something lol.
 

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Being overly blunt early in the relationship has a low success rate. Could scare off a lot of women even if they're attracted to you. It also potentially lowers your social reputation if it fails and she is in your social circle
I'm my experience this has NEVER been the case. There's no "relationship" for you to ruin here, no "vibe" no nothing. You keep puzzyfooting around wanking into a sock at night to protect your rep among women who don't even see you. You are actually how not to get women and how not to behave in social circles. The invisible man that is irresistible to women... in his own head.
 

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I think being direct works best.... In my experience if a girl is lingering around you... texting you... talking to you.... there is an interest already. There was a chick in my organization that was always texting me... she was pretty far geographically away but would occasionally come to my office for training. One time we were out drinking and I said we should go back to your hotel and I can fck your brains out.... she smiled and said about time.... every tone she comes out now its us meeting up for sex..... she knows that’s all I want and it’s all she wants so for now it’s working
 
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To make my statement more clear, just go for sex next time you see her lol
 
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