Is there a difference between "dating" and in a "relationship"

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Like does a relationship always have to be brought up beforehand to be considered one. Usually, I just don't say anything, and it just turns in to one lol. I've also had 5 failed relationships so far, so I guess I'm doing it wrong. What do y'all usually do? What's the time frame and setup usually?

 

[EyeBRollin]

She gets to a point where she says “hey big head, I like you enough where now I don’t want you talking to other girls.” If she says something of that nature, you graduate to a relationship. It has to be her idea.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Yeah but she can of course talk to the other men she always has…

She gets to a point where she says “hey big head, I like you enough where now I don’t want you talking to other girls.” If she says something of that nature, you graduate to a relationship. It has to be her idea.

 

[user252009]

I find it funny how in the US by default "the talk" comes up apparently - it never does here in Europe, or at least I've never heard of it; it's expected that once you start dating seriously, you don't see other people anymore. It doesn't have to be talked about.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Like does a relationship always have to be brought up beforehand to be considered one. Usually, I just don't say anything, and it just turns in to one lol. I've also had 5 failed relationships so far, so I guess I'm doing it wrong. What do y'all usually do? What's the time frame and setup usually?

i most cases in my experience. either she or I will bring up being BF/GF. once accepted, that’s a relationship.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

But you keep talking to other women, keep flirting, keep asking for other women numbers. She will do the same, you keep doing it, its not cheating, if she sees a message on your phone about other women, "its just a friend baby, don't worry" Her hamster will spin and you'll create dread cause she might think, you'll replace her.

maybe I’m just getting older or more lazy, but at sims point I’m done playing around like that. I get it, the first month you should keep your options open, but if this is going on much more after that….fvck that lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

maybe I’m just getting older or more lazy, but at sims point I’m done playing around like that. I get it, the first month you should keep your options open, but if this is going on much more after that….fvck that lol

Eh. If she doesn’t bring up the relationship, I’m still fvcking other girls.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I’m a player. Even in a relationship I’m spinning plates. I don’t care any more. Every woman comes with too much baggage at this stage - crazy brain, crazy fam, crazy kids, worship their career, too much makeup, single mommy, wears a wig, too many tattoos, drugs, alcohol, prssy not tight enough, can’t cook, won’t clean, dogs, too heavy, too skinny, too manly, too fem, raging feminist, too weak….every woman has SOMETHING seriously wrong…..none are worthy of my exclusivity.

So Frk em, I’ll take em when I want em and drop em when I want. And at the same time I’ll tell ‘em all what they want to hear - that they’re the only one for me. They know the truth and they really don’t care. They just want me to treat them well and say the right thing to their face. Doing the right thing isn’t even part of the equation.

I am not mad at this at all. Realistic approach. Good shvt, brother.

 

[Gamisch]

But you keep talking to other women, keep flirting, keep asking for other women numbers. She will do the same, you keep doing it, its not cheating, if she sees a message on your phone about other women, "its just a friend baby, don't worry" Her hamster will spin and you'll create dread cause she might think, you'll replace her.

She will do the same, men should not stop talking to other women and asking for numbers or even go out with other women. They will do the same, as long as you don't cheat, its fine.

Her: I saw you with that girl
You: Its just a friend from work, she needed some perspective on men and I was helping.

You didn't cheat, but you keep your options open and your game up to date.

Tbh this is hyper modern dating and before a man understands this he needs to get burned a couple of times. Most guys will use a LTR as an excuse to " step outside the game " and use loyalty as a barrier to stay as far away from (other) women as possible. That's why a dude, after being in a LONG LtR is f-ed: like a lion from the zoo that's unable to survive in the wild.

You are absolutely right by the way. I geuss I am talkin for most of us, when I say if we applied this mentality from the start ,we wouldn't even be on Sosuave today.

I find it funny how in the US by default "the talk" comes up apparently - it never does here in Europe, or at least I've never heard of it; it's expected that once you start dating seriously, you don't see other people anymore. It doesn't have to be talked about.

I don't know ,imo Europe and the Us are similar. Most influences in Europe originate from the US from movies to music ,magazines shows ect. Western EU women are basically the same as US women.

The bolded part is how relationships go wrong. I've seen some women for many many months without "the talk", and imo women use it as it suits them; when you meet someone better they are dumbfounded, but when they meet someone new or its "hot girls summer" you guys were " never official ".

She gets to a point where she says “hey big head, I like you enough where now I don’t want you talking to other girls.” If she says something of that nature, you graduate to a relationship. It has to be her idea.

Yes this. So many guys end up in trouble with their gf, not realizing THEY'RE the one who pushed for exclusivity. If you dont know this, you'll make this mistake over and over again. Younger girls tend to go along with it, but they dont put too much value on the relationship anyway.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Like does a relationship always have to be brought up beforehand to be considered one. Usually, I just don't say anything, and it just turns in to one lol. I've also had 5 failed relationships so far, so I guess I'm doing it wrong. What do y'all usually do? What's the time frame and setup usually?

That is why it is important for both you and the woman to be open & honest about what you guys want, and what you are looking for.

Every woman in your rotation should know where she stand and where you stand...and this is something that should be addressed in your very first conversation with her on the phone or at the very least on the date.

 

[EyeBRollin]

That is why it is important for both you and the woman to be open & honest about what you guys want, and what you are looking for.

Nah. Don’t be “open.” That benefits the female mating strategy. Do what you want to get what you want.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Nah. Don’t be “open.” That benefits the female mating strategy. Do what you want to get what you want.

Nah. I do not advocate lying, dishonesty and/or manipulation.

If you are really "that nigga" to a woman, you should be able to tell her "I just wanna f#ck" and that should be enough.

If that is not what she want, then obviously yall aint compatible so she would need to be charged to the game.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Nah. I do not advocate lying, dishonesty and/or manipulation.

Good for you. Women don’t play by those rules.

If you are really "that nigga" to a woman, you should be able to tell her "I just wanna f#ck" and that should be enough.

That’s not how women operate. They are covert communicators, not overt. You leave a ton of ass on the table being “open and honest” with woman. Go ahead and nuke your opportunities by being overtly “honest.” It only benefits her, not you.

If that is not what she want, then obviously yall aint compatible so she would need to be charged to the game.

Talk is cheap. Women lie as easily as breathing. I don’t know why men put stock in a verbal “agreement” between a man and a woman.