Jesse Pinkman's approach/field reports thread.

[Jesse Pinkman]

It's not just Miami and it's also not a recent thing. As far back as when I was 22-23 in the mid-2000s, I was realizing going to loud venues was not worth it for the most part. Online dating websites were created in the 1990s because people in the 1970s-1990s were realizing how difficult bar approaching was. Even in the 1970s-1990s, random non-bar approaches weren't very common. Daygame has always been a bit of a niche activity.



Non-bar approaching (daygame) is very difficult. There's a good case to be made that daygame is more difficult than night game. They are both quite challenging. I think swipe apps are more difficult. Instagram game can be useful if you have thousands of Followers, good pics, and far more Followers than your Following count. That's quite difficult to achieve. A guy who follows 5,000 and has a follower count of 3,000 is not impressive.

Social circle is the easiest form of game once you set up the social circle, just like Instagram game becomes easier when you get solid pics and a great Follower stat. Social circle game is best for getting a girlfriend. Most men with a social circle use it for a girlfriend, date her for a few years, then put a ring on it and retire from game, choosing to golf or watch sports/drink beer/eat caloric foods. Some of these men become more beta, lose any sort of pre-marriage fitness level, and then have their wives lose attraction for them. The wives tend go out and have affairs, because it's easy for even a 40 something woman with children to find exciting, extramarital sex.

LOL long story short, game in general is tough. Put your head down and stay on that grind.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@Jesse Pinkman
Roughly Day 16 of no fap. In recent times i have fapped at day 14 just to relieve the pressure from my balls.
I'm enjoying the feeling of POWER I have. Feel more powerful. Woman visitor came into work on friday discussing about a meeting. I feel like their is a sexual predator inside my body. We had eye contact. I think she saw in my eyes that I wanted to bend her over table in front of everyone and rip her underwear off with my teeth.

I know if i was fapping. The predator would be extinguished. It's like joe rogan said "not fapping, you're more likely to do something you wouldn't fo, if you were fapping.

It dose'nt help that the last girl I had sex with a few weeks ago was the best I've ever had haha. Talking about sticking it in her ass and talking dirty to me during sex. She has put me in a right sexual mood. I want to reinact that with next girl...fu-k the s-it out of the next girl I get into bed. I'm gonna do some bad things to her.

Day 2 for me man. What gets me is that I end up fapping to help myself sleep sometimes and sometimes when I sleep in I fap too. I am currently on Day 2 right now but made it all the way to Day 5 last week. What got me was the fact that Day 5 was such a miserable day overall due to the traveling that I got home and even when I did not really feel like fapping, I said screw it and fapped. Let's see how long Day 2 goes now but I want it to last at least until the end of the week.

Glad to hear your story though, I want to have that feeling myself of feeling like a feral beast. If I can do that and hit up cold approach hard then I know I will start to get some results.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Argentine blonde and a PUA

So I am about to cross the street and no cars are coming. See this cute older looking blonde and tell her "hey let's jaywalk together". She asks me to clarify and I tell her what that meant. She laughs and responds in a foreign accent, I make an assumption and tell her "France?". She is actually from Argentina and visiting. Somewhere in the set, I did get a bit lost though. It's like I fluctuated between actually being into her versus not. We chat a bit about her yoga hobby but I think I mix up the intent a bit on my end. I ask for the number and she gives it to me though so number close.

Right after I do that, this guy approaches me and my wing and says "nice daygame close". He is into game and apparently took a bootcamp from James Tusk, told us it costs almost 10k. We chat for a bit and I add him to our group. Then we see this really cute older blonde, total pornstar standing around, and he approaches her. It seemed to go well for him.

This blonde hit me up today and told me she is going to be in Miami this week, we are going to meet for drinks tomorrow! I will let you all know how it goes.

 

[characternote]

took a bootcamp from James Tusk, told us it costs almost 10k.

holy $hit lol. 10k for pushing guys into sets and telling them to tell the girl she's pretty and to make a cold read or 2. We should honestly all do bootcamps as a side hustle!

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

holy $hit lol. 10k for pushing guys into sets and telling them to tell the girl she's pretty and to make a cold read or 2. We should honestly all do bootcamps as a side hustle!

Oh brother I tell ya, that's not even the worst of it. Some coaches legit charge you six figures for their prime services, it's a scam.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Oct 19th - Date with Argentine blonde with an unpleasant surprise.

So a heck of a story with her, she apparently goes from Miami to San Francisco for some work-related stuff and then comes back to Miami where she is till Saturday. This was someone I closed a while back during daygame. I arranged the date for a local bar that is more of an outdoorsy ****tail bar. Poor place for pickup, that area in general, but an ideal place for a date. The place is also like a 10 minute drive from me. I meet her and she has a full-sleeve with jeans on, who can blame her as weather in Miami was cold AF for this city's standards (reaching the 60s!).

We find the place empty enough and joke about how empty it is. I tell her "now we know who to ask if we need to clear out the beach in Miami". She smirks a bit at it and there were maybe three other groups in that whole bar other than us two, this happened close to about 6 or so.

To start off, she told me about how awful San Francisco was. I ask her what happened, did a homeless guy wearing a Brazil jersey chase her with a needle? She smirked a bit but told me that the people seemed miserable and she had to deal with a lot of weird psycho sleazy dudes. I have my own opinions about how awful of a place San Fran is but I keep my lips sealed, running game here and sometimes I get too opinionated about ****. We have a drink each and talk about her time in San Fran a bit more but I try to sexualize it somewhat.

I make a joke saying "well at least you didn't see people with their legs sticking out because they were screwing in a small tent". Does not go over well at all, she gives me that disgusted look and says "eewww, dirty homeless people? You just made me lose my appetite". I joke back and say "thank god I am the one with a strong stomach here, we could have been a hell of a couple on Fear Factor". Well, that doesn't go over well either because she asks what Fear Factor is. I explain it to her and she gives me that plain look while blinking.

Man, it is not going well, this date and I have myself to blame. I tell her "I get it, you're just now coming back to the sane world from San Francisco, it took me a month after my trip to get used to what normal looks like the first time I went" and then reach over to grab her hands as we sit next to each other at the bar. Now this makes her laugh to where she is about to almost fall out of the chair but I grab her back and pull her close to me.

I am on Day 3 now of not fapping and I feel a bit of a hard on coming. I bring my face close to hers and talk softer "I promise, no more jokes about smelly homeless people ****ing", this time she playfully hits me and laughs. Now I get another drink for her but close out my tab, it is time to potentially start planting the seeds about my place. I've done this well with past daygame dates, now how to do it about this one was what I was momentarily lost on.

So I tell her that we should get a nice view of the whole area and Miami after she finishes her drink. Well, she tells me she has to go meet a friend later on at night. I ask when it is, it was at freaking 11. I joke saying "well you only need an hour to get ready, not two". She bites her lips and squeezes my shoulder hard as I lean in. I whisper in her ear "just a view, that's all".

She finishes her drink and agrees to come to my apartment for the rooftop view. I grab us an Uber, it was like 6 bucks. We Uber back to my place and she loved it from the outside. As we get there, I tell her "let's get some water" to try and lure her to my actual apartment but she says "oh no I had water at the bar". Then I tell her "well I will get some water and after that we can go to the rooftop together". She tells me that "how about you get water and I wait down here? Then you can come take me to the rooftop". Okay, she is just not complying at all. I smile and say "let's just go to the rooftop since I don't want to hold back this surprise for long".

Well, we take the elevator up to the freaking rooftop and I still have my arm around her waist. I am kind of getting a bit horny too but her excitement has slightly died down. We get to the rooftop and I have no idea how it freaking happened despite the colder than usual weather for Miami but it was packed! Not only was it packed, it was packed with ratchets bro. One Lizzo lookalike was walking around in a pink two-piece dancing, like shaking her ass and bootyclapping. It was loud as f-ck and a lot of yelling too. Dammit @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 its feelin like New Orleans now bro!

My date's eyes open wide and I try to make a joke of it "you are like I can shake my ass way better than that". She gives me a weird look but then things get even more bad because my apartment is full of desperate dudes as well. Some drunk loser in a Yankees jersey tries to talk to my date drunk as his breath smells like alcohol. I tell my date "hey, actually I know of a better way we can get a view". She immediately shuts me down and says "no I really have to go", at this point she has called her Uber.

I tell her "well let me walk you down to the lobby". We get in the elevator and wait for it to get down to the lobby, now she is cold AF. I tell her that if she wants to play table tennis to pass time we can do that but that was a mistake, she gave me an intense angry look and said "I need to go home!".

Well, I was crushed. I try to have one last save at it and I just do my hail mary. I tell her I know it didn't go as ideally planned but next one is going to be even better, not even sure what I said. She looked at me and smiled. My foolish self goes in for the kiss close and she complies. At this point, our elevator is almost at the lobby as we are kissing but when the door opens I ask her "you sure you don't need to hydrate after that?".

She tells me "I know what you are going to do, just not today". I tell her "alright, so let's grab some water instead of drinks when you are free Friday". She smiles and says "I'll let you know". We wait in the lobby as I am softly kissing her face without any LMR. She grabs me and kisses me again as we wait for her Uber and then it does come. I look at her and she smiles before getting towards her Uber.

Well, I kiss closed but I could not close for the lay because either I sucked at the start or my surprisingly ratchet rooftop killed the vibe. As soon as she saw the crowd, her face was loaded with disgust.

I am going to try and call her tomorrow and see where it goes. Friday would be real ideal for a second date.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

To start off, she told me about how awful San Francisco was. I ask her what happened, did a homeless guy wearing a Brazil jersey chase her with a needle? She smirked a bit but told me that the people seemed miserable and she had to deal with a lot of weird psycho sleazy dudes. I have my own opinions about how awful of a place San Fran is but I keep my lips sealed, running game here and sometimes I get too opinionated about ****. We have a drink each and talk about her time in San Fran a bit more but I try to sexualize it somewhat.

I make a joke saying "well at least you didn't see people with their legs sticking out because they were screwing in a small tent". Does not go over well at all, she gives me that disgusted look and says "eewww, dirty homeless people? You just made me lose my appetite". I joke back and say "thank god I am the one with a strong stomach here, we could have been a hell of a couple on Fear Factor". Well, that doesn't go over well either because she asks what Fear Factor is. I explain it to her and she gives me that plain look while blinking.

Lol good job keeping politics out of that low key bait trap, but LOL lost to the Fear Factor one lol.

She finishes her drink and agrees to come to my apartment for the rooftop view. I grab us an Uber, it was like 6 bucks. We Uber back to my place and she loved it from the outside. As we get there, I tell her "let's get some water" to try and lure her to my actual apartment but she says "oh no I had water at the bar". Then I tell her "well I will get some water and after that we can go to the rooftop together". She tells me that "how about you get water and I wait down here? Then you can come take me to the rooftop". Okay, she is just not complying at all. I smile and say "let's just go to the rooftop since I don't want to hold back this surprise for long".

Did you tell her the rooftop was at "Your" apartment or bring her to your apartment and casually drop that it was yours lol. I think this is where you fvcked up lol.

Well, we take the elevator up to the freaking rooftop and I still have my arm around her waist. I am kind of getting a bit horny too but her excitement has slightly died down. We get to the rooftop and I have no idea how it freaking happened despite the colder than usual weather for Miami but it was packed! Not only was it packed, it was packed with ratchets bro. One Lizzo lookalike was walking around in a pink two-piece dancing, like shaking her ass and bootyclapping. It was loud as f-ck and a lot of yelling too. Dammit @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 its feelin like New Orleans now bro!

My date's eyes open wide and I try to make a joke of it "you are like I can shake my ass way better than that". She gives me a weird look but then things get even more bad because my apartment is full of desperate dudes as well. Some drunk loser in a Yankees jersey tries to talk to my date drunk as his breath smells like alcohol. I tell my date "hey, actually I know of a better way we can get a view". She immediately shuts me down and says "no I really have to go", at this point she has called her Uber.

Should've told that guy to go get smacked by the Astros again .

So I tell her that we should get a nice view of the whole area and Miami after she finishes her drink. Well, she tells me she has to go meet a friend later on at night. I ask when it is, it was at freaking 11. I joke saying "well you only need an hour to get ready, not two". She bites her lips and squeezes my shoulder hard as I lean in. I whisper in her ear "just a view, that's all".

Probably had a dvck appointment with Chad that night and she was just testing the waters. It's whatever though lol. I'm glad you didn't let it stop your night though because it could have been an anti slut defense lol. It sounds like you didn't tell her it was your apartment and when she found that out, it was basically game over lol. You should have just been more upfront about it being your place on the invite or went somewhere else if you didn't feel comfortable enough sealing the deal. From my experience, I'm just straight up "Do you want to come back to my place", or I add a spin to it lol and they say yes anyway lol. Either way, you did a good job keeping the date low investment just in case that 11pm was a dvck appointment lol.

 

[SW15]

Oct 19th - Date with Argentine blonde with an unpleasant surprise.

I kiss closed but I could not close for the lay because either I sucked at the start or my surprisingly ratchet rooftop killed the vibe. As soon as she saw the crowd, her face was loaded with disgust.

I am going to try and call her tomorrow and see where it goes. Friday would be real ideal for a second date.

Congrats on the date happening! It's never easy to set up a date from non-bar approaching.

There were some good and bad moments.

The unexpected rooftop party incident could have happened to anyone. Sometimes, it is really good to play out your multivenue-ing moves ahead of time and check for unusual and special events.

I would not recommend calling or texting her so soon. Use the @EyeBRollin / Doc Love method of waiting at least 4-7 days between in-person interactions to call or text. Doc Love used to propose one full week. That time frame has its merit. 4-5 days is acceptable.

It is difficult to wait that long.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@Jake_Gyllenhaal69 Yeah I should have been more direct on where I was taking her. I didn't and think I came off as creepy due to that. Doubt she is Chad hunting in the US though lol. She is Argentinian, the men there look 10x better than most men in the US.

@SW15 She leaves to go back to Argentina on Saturday bro.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Reflection time and looking back.

So I started my daygame journey more towards the middle of this year, back around May so it has been about 6 months. I think it is time for me to reflect a bit and make some improvements because there is so much I can be doing better that I am just not. Here are some things I realized I need to work on a lot more if I am going to try and succeed with game and I know that changes have to be made.

1. The same reliable/good wingmen or daygame solo from here on out.

I feel like sometimes I get caught chatting too much with my wing to where I do not approach or I end up with a newbie wing that drains my vibe. Good example is the wing that goes on and on about how guys are finding hot girlfriends, low-key wishing he could find the same situation, and I am in my head like "dude, then go get a girlfriend and focus on that instead of thirsting over other dudes in LTRs with hot girls". If I am not gaming with a great wing or a reliable one, I am going to do it solo. I will make my boundaries and expectations known up front before I even meet them, some of these dudes are draining my vibe.

2. Taking too long to approach and way too in my head.

I had days where I would go out and do like 2 approaches. IMO, the issue is that I tried to focus more on quality than quantity. Now I am going to have it to where I must do 5 approaches and from there, I can be home free and do whatever I want. At times, I feel like I just am there walking around and missing way too many approach opportunities. I have known guys that do 20 approaches but I rarely crack 10 or so in my case, at times barely doing any. I have to get out of my own head here, a good wing makes it easier. All of my wings have done way more approaches than I have when we have been out.

3. Not having a plan or what to say.

I was winging way too many openers and sounding nervous as a result. I am working on creating a bit of a framework for myself and if it is successful, I will share it all of you too. I feel like I get lost in conversations sometimes and the nervousness shows when I open but don't really have anything important to say. Working on this and applying it will give me more confidence during the interactions. I need to develop this out a bit and then hook to where I am getting more dates and such. I think I am almost there with some things but just need to sit down and design a good structure for how I have the conversations I do.

So far, ACII by Austen Summers (as weird as that dude is) has actually worked the best for me. No matter how you spin it, it is sort of weird talking to people during the day, especially a hot girl.

4. Controlling negative emotions, bad vibes, and negative thoughts due to tough life situations.

The job situation I had for most of the year was just awful and it borderline screwed with me. I am happy I quit my job but I know that toxic work situations are the norm in American life. I've worked out a way to approach toxic work situations and am going to be investing more time outside of work on weekdays into ways I can make a side hustle. At times, I have gone out angry and miserable due to a life situation and that keeps me in my head when I am supposed to be approaching.

That also means anything negative I read about daygame or hear. I have to tune all of that out and focus when I go out in order for this to work. I have done a great job this year in tuning out the drama and negative influences but if there is one thing that is a given from 2020 onwards, the world has gotten a lot more negative. The masculine spaces have become infested with incels, losers, and dudes making excuses that it can easily ruin your mindset. I am going to do a better job at tuning this out.

5. Health and fitness.

I had a good routine going for my health but the past couple of months, that too has died down a bit. I was on Day 3 of no fap yesterday but a stressful family situation made me fap in order to go to sleep. I went back into running and lifting this week, going to stay at it and get that routine back.

Good Looking Loser had the best program for getting laid and a lot of that program was getting in good shape so you look good. I am still slightly out of shape and am trying to get back to my old form when I was shredded. No more excuses, this is a must because game is easier when you look good. I am not obese or fat but I won't be too proud to take my shirt off either.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Bruh if No Fap is making you too horny then maybe you should only allow yourself to fap before dates lol.

 

[characternote]

Not having a plan or what to say.

Even though i'm basically certain the writers over at skilledseducer are larping with their LR's etc, since you do a lot of daygame (I only do nightgame) have you ever looked at an approach like they advise?

With the reality pacing, elicit state, emotional stimulation etc.

So a convo opener and transition when you sit down next to someone in the park or something would look like:
open - Have you ever noticed how relaxing it feels to be surrounded by nature?"
she agrees/replies
transition - Sometimes we get caught up in the things we have to do. But if you stop and savor the moment. You see the green on the trees, feel the warm breeze and it's such a grounding experience. You feel alive. Adventurous
She responds. Now time for 'immersion'
"What's something you really enjoy doing that gives you a chance to take a break from reality and get in touch with how you feel?"
She talks about her hobby and you follow up with stimulating insights into her hobby that you've been thinking about


Now for me, even writing that was painful and made me cringe internally. I experimented with this style briefly and i'm sure the girls unanimously thought i had something wrong with me lol. Although I'm always so curious to see if it works better in the US since, otherwise, I have no idea how people aren't constantly questioning the validity of such verbals! And since you like daygame i'm curious if you've ever tried a style like that! You seem quite open to experimenting with ****!

I think Austin Summers is fairly decent for what it's worth, btw (and he's basically the opposite of that convo example I posted above)

 

[nicksaiz65]

Reflection time and looking back.

So I started my daygame journey more towards the middle of this year, back around May so it has been about 6 months. I think it is time for me to reflect a bit and make some improvements because there is so much I can be doing better that I am just not. Here are some things I realized I need to work on a lot more if I am going to try and succeed with game and I know that changes have to be made.

1. The same reliable/good wingmen or daygame solo from here on out.

I feel like sometimes I get caught chatting too much with my wing to where I do not approach or I end up with a newbie wing that drains my vibe. Good example is the wing that goes on and on about how guys are finding hot girlfriends, low-key wishing he could find the same situation, and I am in my head like "dude, then go get a girlfriend and focus on that instead of thirsting over other dudes in LTRs with hot girls". If I am not gaming with a great wing or a reliable one, I am going to do it solo. I will make my boundaries and expectations known up front before I even meet them, some of these dudes are draining my vibe.

2. Taking too long to approach and way too in my head.

I had days where I would go out and do like 2 approaches. IMO, the issue is that I tried to focus more on quality than quantity. Now I am going to have it to where I must do 5 approaches and from there, I can be home free and do whatever I want. At times, I feel like I just am there walking around and missing way too many approach opportunities. I have known guys that do 20 approaches but I rarely crack 10 or so in my case, at times barely doing any. I have to get out of my own head here, a good wing makes it easier. All of my wings have done way more approaches than I have when we have been out.

3. Not having a plan or what to say.

I was winging way too many openers and sounding nervous as a result. I am working on creating a bit of a framework for myself and if it is successful, I will share it all of you too. I feel like I get lost in conversations sometimes and the nervousness shows when I open but don't really have anything important to say. Working on this and applying it will give me more confidence during the interactions. I need to develop this out a bit and then hook to where I am getting more dates and such. I think I am almost there with some things but just need to sit down and design a good structure for how I have the conversations I do.

So far, ACII by Austen Summers (as weird as that dude is) has actually worked the best for me. No matter how you spin it, it is sort of weird talking to people during the day, especially a hot girl.

4. Controlling negative emotions, bad vibes, and negative thoughts due to tough life situations.

The job situation I had for most of the year was just awful and it borderline screwed with me. I am happy I quit my job but I know that toxic work situations are the norm in American life. I've worked out a way to approach toxic work situations and am going to be investing more time outside of work on weekdays into ways I can make a side hustle. At times, I have gone out angry and miserable due to a life situation and that keeps me in my head when I am supposed to be approaching.

That also means anything negative I read about daygame or hear. I have to tune all of that out and focus when I go out in order for this to work. I have done a great job this year in tuning out the drama and negative influences but if there is one thing that is a given from 2020 onwards, the world has gotten a lot more negative. The masculine spaces have become infested with incels, losers, and dudes making excuses that it can easily ruin your mindset. I am going to do a better job at tuning this out.

5. Health and fitness.

I had a good routine going for my health but the past couple of months, that too has died down a bit. I was on Day 3 of no fap yesterday but a stressful family situation made me fap in order to go to sleep. I went back into running and lifting this week, going to stay at it and get that routine back.

Good Looking Loser had the best program for getting laid and a lot of that program was getting in good shape so you look good. I am still slightly out of shape and am trying to get back to my old form when I was shredded. No more excuses, this is a must because game is easier when you look good. I am not obese or fat but I won't be too proud to take my shirt off either.

Can’t say much to Austen Summers myself but I know his clients get really solid results.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Bruh if No Fap is making you too horny then maybe you should only allow yourself to fap before dates lol.

Its not even that, I feel like sometimes when crisis hits I fap. This year has been one crisis after another. I want to challenge myself to go at least 2 weeks without fapping to get in touch with my primal urges and instantly be able to get hard if I see a hot girl on the beach.

 

[SW15]

get in touch with my primal urges and instantly be able to get hard if I see a hot girl on the beach.

In the Miami area, there is a beach called Haulover Beach. Haulover is a clothing optional beach. You could pick up naked women on the beach. Unfortunately, the general rule on clothing optional beaches in the US is that the more attractive women don't go to these beaches and don't typically go while unattached and looking for new penis. It's better to take an established girlfriend to a nude beach if you're into that sort of thing.

A fair amount of nudists are also swingers.

It would be awesome to walk around a nude beach with a big erection and impress some women.

@SW15 She leaves to go back to Argentina on Saturday bro.

That's a narrow window for closing. That's not a prospect I would entertain based on my goals but I can see how some men would want to pursue that path.

2. Taking too long to approach and way too in my head.

I had days where I would go out and do like 2 approaches. IMO, the issue is that I tried to focus more on quality than quantity. Now I am going to have it to where I must do 5 approaches and from there, I can be home free and do whatever I want. At times, I feel like I just am there walking around and missing way too many approach opportunities. I have known guys that do 20 approaches but I rarely crack 10 or so in my case, at times barely doing any. I have to get out of my own head here, a good wing makes it easier. All of my wings have done way more approaches than I have when we have been out.

This is normal.

3. Not having a plan or what to say.

I was winging way too many openers and sounding nervous as a result. I am working on creating a bit of a framework for myself and if it is successful, I will share it all of you too. I feel like I get lost in conversations sometimes and the nervousness shows when I open but don't really have anything important to say. Working on this and applying it will give me more confidence during the interactions. I need to develop this out a bit and then hook to where I am getting more dates and such. I think I am almost there with some things but just need to sit down and design a good structure for how I have the conversations I do.

So far, ACII by Austen Summers (as weird as that dude is) has actually worked the best for me. No matter how you spin it, it is sort of weird talking to people during the day, especially a hot girl.

Canned openers are good. I have used standard, canned openers at times. Sometimes, it's difficult to think of something to say on the spot. Yes, it is weird to open women randomly during the day. Today, I opened a woman in the parking lot adjacent to a park/path where I ride my bike. It was smooth. I was impressed.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@SW15 Yeah man no matter how many times I have done, and this is my first year in daygame, it feels weird. I often sit and think from a woman's perspective how weird it must be to have a random guy come up to you, open you, hit on you, have a conversation, and then ask for some kind of a close whether it is an Instadate or a phone number/IG.

It's a weird thought and something I reflect to think about. Like you go from randomly approaching a woman on the street to getting her to a point where you can get her number or IG. As much rejections as I get, they still pale in comparison to my wings who just spam approach. You can tell at times in places like South Beach that PUAs have been out and about because women get paranoid in their vibe and learn to get away from all men.

I am trying to work out a way to make it flow more smoothly. Sometimes I wonder if direct openers really are the best, especially if you go up to her and say "hey I thought you were cute, what's your name?".

 

[SW15]

@SW15 Yeah man no matter how many times I have done, and this is my first year in daygame, it feels weird. I often sit and think from a woman's perspective how weird it must be to have a random guy come up to you, open you, hit on you, have a conversation, and then ask for some kind of a close whether it is an Instadate or a phone number/IG.

Daygame does and always has broken the mold. I like to challenge the norms. Right now, the norm has been swipe apps. Before 15-20 years ago, the norms were bars, social circles, and meeting in college. Once the Millennials got the college in the early 2000s, fewer successful LTRs were forming. College was great at producing LTRs from 1975-2000, not so good after that.

Even doing daygame in 1990 when men had more testosterone would have broken the mold.

It's good to break the mold.

It's a weird thought and something I reflect to think about. Like you go from randomly approaching a woman on the street to getting her to a point where you can get her number or IG. As much rejections as I get, they still pale in comparison to my wings who just spam approach. You can tell at times in places like South Beach that PUAs have been out and about because women get paranoid in their vibe and learn to get away from all men.

South Beach is unique with all of the PUAs going there. Dallas doesn't have that much of a problem though there are some locations in Dallas I would call game saturated with daygamers. It's still not bad compared to South Beach.

I am trying to work out a way to make it flow more smoothly. Sometimes I wonder if direct openers really are the best, especially if you go up to her and say "hey I thought you were cute, what's your name?".

The more I get into game, the more I think direct approaches like that are best. Direct approaches are better outdoors as compared to indoor retail settings.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Daygame does and always has broken the mold. I like to challenge the norms. Right now, the norm has been swipe apps. Before 15-20 years ago, the norms were bars, social circles, and meeting in college. Once the Millennials got the college in the early 2000s, fewer successful LTRs were forming. College was great at producing LTRs from 1975-2000, not so good after that.

Even doing daygame in 1990 when men had more testosterone would have broken the mold.

It's good to break the mold.

I just come to think how easy it would have been in the 1990s if you were in one of the major cities running daygame. Sometimes nostalgia gets the better of me. Sure, some older guy can tell me well you didn't have dating apps back then so it would have been tougher to meet women online. I sometimes look at videos from the 90s and even some porn from that decade, I feel like I reached young adulthood in the wrong decade.

Going OT here but I see porn from the 90s and that **** was arousing but anything after Bangbros in the early 00s, it's like I can't even get hard to that stuff. Way too airbrushed and everything. Even the women looked somewhat more natural in some ways. Can't complain anymore though, nostalgia is not good for the soul. Always have to find opportunities where they are but now I know why so many guys get all doom and gloom about society.

Even with Miami though, watching the Vitaly videos on youtube gave off a different vibe to the Miami of today.

South Beach is unique with all of the PUAs going there. Dallas doesn't have that much of a problem though there are some locations in Dallas I would call game saturated with daygamers. It's still not bad compared to South Beach.

I have run into at least 3 popular pickup coaches here. As I told @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 one of them was Playing With Fire, dude had his dog and everything. The dog was rather calm for a Husky so I wonder how he pulled it off. Chicks were approaching him at the bar solely for his dog.

The more I get into game, the more I think direct approaches like that are best. Direct approaches are better outdoors as compared to indoor retail settings.

It's direct for me too and then maybe situational switching right to direct.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Oct 21 - Local Daygame approaches

So there is a suburban area type of mall located near where I live, practically walking distance. The neighborhood I am in is all families and old people for the most part but a lot of younger people live here, just not much of a nightlife at all. I decided to head over and do some approaches. My goal was to do 5 for the day since I will be skipping nightlife for tonight (too much stuff to do instead). It was like being back new again and in case you are all wondering, things did not work out with the Argentine girl

Approach 1

I see this blonde walking behind me and I turn around to tell her "you are definitely Brazilian". She smiles and says she is, I make small talk with her but tbh, I was nervous in this interaction. She actually works at one of the stores so I kind of backed out.

Approach 2

I approach a girl with a pink shirt and pink glasses, open her by saying she looks good with the style. We get a decent convo going but once again, another girl that works at one of the stores.

Approach 3

See this young Latina in all black, I tell her "hey I was about to get coffee but thought you were cute and hate to come meet you", she smiles, says thank you, and walks off. I don't follow her.

Approach 4

I see this one woman with blue jeans and sunglasses, open her and she is actually receptive. My opener I forgot, yeah it was that bad. However, we do chat for a bit. She is this Cuban woman who is willing to chat and all but when I try to number close at the end, she says "nah not today". Well, that was that lol.

Approach 5

I kept seeing this one dark-haired girl everywhere but could never find the opportunity to approach her. Finally, I see her and head in the direction. Open her and tell her that I was going to get coffee but she was too stylish for the area. Convo is going well, she is actually a white girl from Texas. Moved here from Austin but I feel like I am being way too chatty and not building much sexual tension or having any flow to my convo. The girl has to go into a store but overall was a cool girl.

Glad I found an alternative to the usual going out alone on Fridays because my good wing is gone and very on and off with when he is the city. Saves me some money too!

The other good news, I had final rounds of interviews this week and hear back next week on whether or not I got the jobs. @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 and @SW15 ya boy might not be unemployed for long yo!

 

[BillyPilgrim]

The other good news, I had final rounds of interviews this week and hear back next week on whether or not I got the jobs. @Jake_Gyllenhaal69 and @SW15 ya boy might not be unemployed for long yo!

As the 2nd best meth cook in America, I would hope so.