Jesse Pinkman's approach/field reports thread.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Oct 16

Whew! Long day brothers and I am exhausted but I will talk about my day spent daygaming. However, before I do, I want to say that I was not the best state of mind. A lot of negative thoughts ran through my head and as a result, I was not the sharpest tool in the shed. However, first weekend back from game and I know I had to do it. I knew I had to go out today and make it happen. I watched a video from a dating coach that said daygame is a waste of time and just to do it organically as you go about your day. Made me feel like a doofus for going out but I said hey, screw it. I went out and hit the main part of the city for daygame.

Met up with my wing and we started doing sets. This new wing is a short Latino dude so he is constantly approaching. Eitherways, no excuses, I knew I had to get to it and I am on Day 2 of NoFap as well.

Approach 1

I open this blonde with glasses who is very shy and awkward around me, didn't go anywhere. Botched set, too in my own head.

Approach 2

A long time had passed, wing had done about 5 approaches and I had done none in this period. No excuses Pinkman, do some approaches. I see this girl with sunglasses, older woman really, and open her. She asks "what do you want?". I tell her she is cute and had to say hi. She says "nope". Wow, what a b1tch but I should have seen it coming. Only thing is I knew I had to get an approach going.

Approach 3

I approach this cute girl wearing a bikini who was walking her dog. First I asked if the dog is friendly and she excitedly said yes. We have some small talk going and I was complimenting her on her look, told her she must have played Volleyball. The girl moved to Miami from NYC and we were having a great interaction. When I tried to close, got told she has a boyfriend but I wished her well. Unlike the last bish, she was actually nice and not a rude sack of crap.

Approach 4

Once again, a long gap goes by. My wing is opening everything and getting rejected. I see this one hot dark-haired woman and am wondering if it was the girl I just approached. Apparently, it was not but I let her pass. The sun was in my eyes too. Then I turn around and open her, tell her she has the most Romanian look I have seen. She laughs as she was Italian. We make some fun small talk and all, she was chill. However, she wishes me well and walks away.

Really feeling like I could have done more with this set and understand the value of dealing with a previous rejection. I mean the rude bish in Approach 2 ruined my vibe in some way because she looked similar to the Italian broad so I did not open with the excitement that I should have. I feel like that was a missed opportunity and I could have done more with it. Not into Italian women myself but she was legit from Italy, not the guido trash you get from NY and NJ. I could have done a lot here but got too in my own head.

Approach 5

See this Latina wearing bright yellow standing outside of her store, I had seen her friend go in. I open her and compliment on her dress, told her she must be Brazilian. Apparently, she was visiting from Chile and was flying back tonight. Well, that sucks. We chat and I ask her if she is ever coming back to Miami. She tells me she comes to Miami all the time and loves it. I tell her I love to visit Chile one day. We keep bantering but she had a bag and was eating Ice Cream. Well, after a few minutes, I instagram close her since she was an international and she told me to DM her. She said she will be flying but will prolly accept my request tomorrow. Hmmmm...

Approach 6

I open this German 2 set, take a pic of them as they asked me to, but it didn't really go anywhere. They tell me they are flying back soon and looking to catch their flight.

Approach 7

Open this Latina in a white dress, does not really go anywhere. She was not receptive.

Approach 8

Open this one white girl with glasses, she had a Euro accent. Soon she joins her two Filipino friends and it gets awkward from there.

Approach 9

I see these two blondes standing outside a clothing store wondering if they should go in and open them. The set is going well, both are British. We chat for a few minutes and they are emotionally invested. Ask for their IGs as they will be in town for a couple of days, they do not have IGs despite being two young blondes from the UK (LOL!). Then I ask for their WhatsApp, no luck there either. Soft rejection.

Approach 10

I open a Latina in an orange dress and she barely speaks English. Crap.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Going to do more daygame today but it just hit me yesterday how hard this stuff really is. I mean I could have been sitting at home drinking beer and watching some good college football but no, I missed it. I missed ranked teams playing each other and it was a great weekend of college football. On that day, I realized that I had to either be real crazy or just really want a better sex life for myself through cold approach. The more and more I do this game, the more I realize that I cannot fault the average guy for being how he is. Playing golf on a weekend and watching sports is way easier to do and way more relaxing.

There will always be good football games lol. I saw so many “this is the best moment of my life” from fans. Think how fvcking sad that is to have your top life moments determined by a bunch of college kids throwing a ball around. They’ll have their fun now, but when the team loses that win won’t even matter anymore lol. You are in a much better position, trust me lol. I love football but dang I will never let it control my emotions ever again. I remember punching a hole in a wall after Ohio State lost that rigged game against Clemson and I told myself that I need to stop this nonsense and it’s just a game lol. After that incident I just stopped emotionally investing in sports in general and my life has been so much better since lol.

 

[characternote]

Always like reading your FR's. Easy to read and to the point

do some approaches. I see this girl with sunglasses, older woman really, and open her. She asks "what do you want?". I tell her she is cute and had to say hi. She says "nope". Wow, what a b1tch

So do you feel there's anything you could have said under the umbrella of 'game' to turn that rejection into sex?
I had a similar rejection last night lol, and I actually got hold of the newest course from honest signals earlier (who I quite like) and he had a number of similar rejections in his infields. Even from indirect openers! He couldn't turn them around either. It's why i'm sure that those on some game forums who don't believe in 'no girls' (girls who just aren't attracted to you and can't be convinced otherwise) are just keyboard jockeys

In terms of a model, I know you mentioned jmulv (i'm not a fan of his at all but I respect everyones choices when it comes to this stuff)
Are you following his model out of interest? (the approaches you write about don't seem to align with my understanding of his 'game' although in fairness i've mostly only studied his nightgame method which i've already shared in a different post)

 

[SW15]

it just hit me yesterday how hard this stuff really is....I mean l....The more and more I do this game, the more I realize that I cannot fault the average guy for being how he is. I realized that I had to either be real crazy or jwant a better sex life for myself through cold approach.

This is why so many dudes get into game but very few dudes stick with it till the end. Most just burn out and quit.

Approaching strangers is difficult. It's roughly analogous to making random telephone calls and selling a product or setting up a mall or outdoor kiosk and selling. These types of methods have been discredited in business but many companies use these methods or some slight variation on them to sell. It's bad for both the companies and the employees who work at the companies that use these methods.

There has been some acknowledgement that stranger approaching is a difficult path. In the 1990s, why was online dating created? Online dating was created as a response to the difficulty of going to bars, approaching strangers, and arranging dates.

Non-bar approaching has always been a bit of a less common niche. There are stories of men's testosterone rates dropping over time. However, even in the 1970s-1980s, when men had higher testosterone rates, most men weren't doing non-bar approaches. It takes a certain character to do these non-bar approaches. They are mostly meaningless and rarely convert into anything worthwhile.

I just stopped emotionally investing in sports in general and my life has been so much better since lol.

I could have been sitting at home drinking beer and watching some good college football. Playing golf on a weekend and watching sports is way easier to do and way more relaxing.

Play sports...don't watch them.

I don't care about what my alma mater does in college football or college basketball. Even when I was on campus, I didn't care that much. When I was on campus, football and men's basketball game days were an inconvenience to me. Weekend games would mess up on campus parking when I lived off campus and wanted to go to the library and study on a weekend.

I used to care more about pro sports.

I save a bunch of time not watching October pro baseball games. I save a bunch of time not watching NBA playoff games. If you live in the Eastern and Central time zones in the US, the games often end later at night, impacting sleep.

I didn't watch the Super Bowl last year for the first time in a very long time. The Super Bowl and Thanksgiving were the only times I watched football for years. At Thanksgiving, it was mainly on in the background wherever I went and wasn't paying attention. Super Bowl parties in my social circle became romantic relationship litmus tests like New Year's Eve. They were unpleasant if I wasn't able to bring a girlfriend to them.

Golf isn't that great of exercise either. There are many sports that are much more physically demanding.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I don't care about what my alma mater does in college football or college basketball. Even when I was on campus, I didn't care that much. When I was on campus, football and men's basketball game days were an inconvenience to me. Weekend games would mess up on campus parking when I lived off campus and wanted to go to the library and study on a weekend.

god I can relate to this so much. I remember one time lack of parking from a Oklahoma game or something the next day **** blocked me from sex. Even after college, it’s annoying to deal with due to lack of parking and impatient drunk drivers lol.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

There will always be good football games lol. I saw so many “this is the best moment of my life” from fans. Think how fvcking sad that is to have your top life moments determined by a bunch of college kids throwing a ball around. They’ll have their fun now, but when the team loses that win won’t even matter anymore lol. You are in a much better position, trust me lol. I love football but dang I will never let it control my emotions ever again. I remember punching a hole in a wall after Ohio State lost that rigged game against Clemson and I told myself that I need to stop this nonsense and it’s just a game lol. After that incident I just stopped emotionally investing in sports in general and my life has been so much better since lol.

The bold hit hard lol! Yeah man, you are right. The more I think about it, the more I realize how so many men crave comfort and I am no exception. Even some of the dudes I wing with will see a guy with a hot girlfriend and go "yooo how did he get that? I wonder how guys get those kinds of girls?". It irritates me because I am there to get a lot of lays and my wing is thirsting over some dude being in an LTR. At some point, I say screw it and almost want to quit winging with a dude even though he is relatively decent.

It comes to show me how we must fight as men and as modern day humans to defeat comfort itself and not fall victim to it. However, one of my closes was symbolic to me moving on. Tenn was beating Alabama by 20 points, it was on the big TV, and I said screw it to approach this hot girls. Got a close out of it and everything. I feel like it was fate telling me to keep at it and to move on.

I didn't post it on the field report but my wing approaches this hot blonde right near where these two older southern dudes and a bubba with a camo hat are watching the game. It's also a hot blonde and she hooks, walks with him to a coffee shop. They look at each other confused and I laughed hard.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Always like reading your FR's. Easy to read and to the point

So do you feel there's anything you could have said under the umbrella of 'game' to turn that rejection into sex?
I had a similar rejection last night lol, and I actually got hold of the newest course from honest signals earlier (who I quite like) and he had a number of similar rejections in his infields. Even from indirect openers! He couldn't turn them around either. It's why i'm sure that those on some game forums who don't believe in 'no girls' (girls who just aren't attracted to you and can't be convinced otherwise) are just keyboard jockeys

In terms of a model, I know you mentioned jmulv (i'm not a fan of his at all but I respect everyones choices when it comes to this stuff)
Are you following his model out of interest? (the approaches you write about don't seem to align with my understanding of his 'game' although in fairness i've mostly only studied his nightgame method which i've already shared in a different post)

Thank you.

No, there is nothing you can do if she rejects you. The only time a rejection can even remotely be turned around is if she is in a good mood and rejects you with a playful energy. In my case, the woman was clearly in a bad mood, having a bad day, and pissed off. Guys who try to turn those rejections around are often the ones who give guys doing cold approach a bad name. Case in point, this dude here at 11:30 -

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Approaching strangers is difficult. It's roughly analogous to making random telephone calls and selling a product or setting up a mall or outdoor kiosk and selling. These types of methods have been discredited in business but many companies use these methods or some slight variation on them to sell. It's bad for both the companies and the employees who work at the companies that use these methods.

I don't see how they have been discredited in business. A lot of the biggest companies out there have sales teams dedicated to going out, calling clients who have never heard of the product, and trying to pitch them. To this day, they are hiring people to make cold calls and send cold emails for them. Now sure, if you spam someone's cellphone without a relevant message then you are going to get rejected. This is the same as some pickup guy going around and spamming the same opener.

However, if you have a genuine value prop and feel that they are a fit, you can often create a win-win situation. A lot of the biggest clients and deals that companies get are due to salespeople reaching out and creating that bridge.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

The bold hit hard lol! Yeah man, you are right. The more I think about it, the more I realize how so many men crave comfort and I am no exception. Even some of the dudes I wing with will see a guy with a hot girlfriend and go "yooo how did he get that? I wonder how guys get those kinds of girls?". It irritates me because I am there to get a lot of lays and my wing is thirsting over some dude being in an LTR. At some point, I say screw it and almost want to quit winging with a dude even though he is relatively decent.

Are they noobs because that sounds like someone with little LTR experience would get distracted over lol.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Are they noobs because that sounds like someone with little LTR experience would get distracted over lol.

Hard to tell because they do go out and approach, plus they are not scared or getting anxiety over approaching so I cannot say that they are noobs. However, I am starting to think that maybe they never had a hot or cute GF before.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Hard to tell because they do go out and approach, plus they are not scared or getting anxiety over approaching so I cannot say that they are noobs. However, I am starting to think that maybe they never had a hot or cute GF before.

This was my way of thinking before I had a couple of LTRs under my belt. They cannot understand that the guy might be in a severe losing position in that relationship or don't know what's going on in the relationship behind closed doors. We seem to assume any pretty woman that isn't showing tattoos/presents herself well in public has her shvt together when she could be bat shvt crazy lol.

 

[SW15]

I don't see how they have been discredited in business. A lot of the biggest companies out there have sales teams dedicated to going out, calling clients who have never heard of the product, and trying to pitch them. To this day, they are hiring people to make cold calls and send cold emails for them. Now sure, if you spam someone's cellphone without a relevant message then you are going to get rejected. This is the same as some pickup guy going around and spamming the same opener.

However, if you have a genuine value prop and feel that they are a fit, you can often create a win-win situation. A lot of the biggest clients and deals that companies get are due to salespeople reaching out and creating that bridge.

In business, if a sales team is calling clients who have never heard of a product and pitching them, that's problematic. There's zero brand awareness. Marketing needs to create brand awareness. Marketing also needs to create brand beliefs that will lead to a qualified prospect selecting to do business with a brand. If sales teams are doing cold calls to prospects who don't know squat about a brand and may not be qualified, that's going to lead to a lot of negative outcomes. That's an organization lacking the use of current marketing practices.

A lot of times, sales reps are contacting people not in the market and not qualified when the marketing function in the organization is subpar. That's a lot like men cold approaching women with boyfriends and husbands, which happens all the time in non-bar approaching. It happens less in bar approaching simply because women with boyfriends and husbands are less likely to be at bars.

If a brand has a genuine value proposition, then that brand needs to get discovered by qualified prospects via search engine marketing, social media marketing, or even traditional media channel advertising. The qualified prospects then contact the brand. It's difficult for that to happen to men in the mating market. In the mating marketplace, you could think of @Jesse Pinkman or @SW15 as brands that offer penis and relationship services. Few women will initiate requests for penis from us via Instagram or while we are lifting weights at the gym. It's not entirely analogous.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

If a brand has a genuine value proposition, then that brand needs to get discovered by qualified prospects via search engine marketing, social media marketing, or even traditional media channel advertising. The qualified prospects then contact the brand. It's difficult for that to happen to men in the mating market. In the mating marketplace, you could think of @Jesse Pinkman or @SW15 as brands that offer penis and relationship services. Few women will initiate requests for penis from us via Instagram or while we are lifting weights at the gym. It's not entirely analogous.

The brutal truth is that most guys can make themselves a 5.5-7.5 if they aren’t physically deformed. Top things that come to mind is weight, having a good haircut/facial hair if needed, clothes, decent personality, conversation skills and job. Most guys will just pick one and neglect the others.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@SW15 The age old sales vs. marketing debate is left for a business thread. However, I will say that almost every successful company I have heard of hires salespeople to do the outreach because they find that marketing on its own cannot do much and plus, it is easy to ignore. It is easy to ignore some newsletter, it is harder to ignore someone straight up calling you to ask for time.

Just like in game, it is easy for her to ignore you if you are some Instagram hot shot because there are other Instagram hot shots. It is tougher to ignore you when you go up to her and talk to her.

 

[SW15]

Just like in game, it is easy for her to ignore you if you are some Instagram hot shot because there are other Instagram hot shots. It is tougher to ignore you when you go up to her and talk to her.

A woman can ignore an Instagram DM, a right swipe in her swipe app queue, and a message in her swipe app inbox.

I've seen women have flat out awful body language when I was considering approaching them so I didn't make the approach. If you start a conversation, she has to muster up enough energy to be rude, which many women are capable of doing.

I was walking around tonight and found a good in with an approach. It turned out the woman had a PhD. Advanced degrees are a red flag.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

A woman can ignore an Instagram DM, a right swipe in her swipe app queue, and a message in her swipe app inbox.

I've seen women have flat out awful body language when I was considering approaching them so I didn't make the approach. If you start a conversation, she has to muster up enough energy to be rude, which many women are capable of doing.

I was walking around tonight and found a good in with an approach. It turned out the woman had a PhD. Advanced degrees are a red flag.

OT as heck here but I noticed something. Remember when I talked about PUAs running bootcamps in Miami? Well, for a period of a month I saw dudes out and about all the time. These were all PUA students and guys who were paying for the bootcamp. I kept running into them for a period of a month. Now, two months have passed and I have yet to see these dudes. They are no longer around running daygame.

 

[SW15]

Remember when I talked about PUAs running bootcamps in Miami?

Yes, I remember.

These were all PUA students and guys who were paying for the bootcamp. I kept running into them for a period of a month. Now, two months have passed and I have yet to see these dudes. They are no longer around running daygame.

Daygame is very hard to run. If you look at your own approach field reports, that's good evidence of that. Bar approaching is easier because of alcohol and the fact that most women at bars don't have boyfriends or husbands.

Approaching and arranging dates is not perfectly analogous to either sales or marketing. I would say that many men in sales and marketing roles in their professional lives are passionate about attracting-seducing. Some of these men are thirsty because men at large are thirsty now.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

@SW15

IMO, you will have to sacrifice lay count when it comes to it but it has its many benefits. However, I have known guys that get regular results with it and it is quality as well. Problem that exists is that I have had too much going on in my life towards the latter half of 2022 that my mind has not been in it. I have gotten laid from daygame this year and the sex was some of the best ever. However, I have been inconsistent in my habits and too in my head to where I have no one to blame but myself.

There is barely much of a nightgame in Miami if you want quality. There is like one bar good for a lot of sets, the rest are nightclubs that are too packed and you cannot even hear.

 

[SW15]

There is barely much of a nightgame in Miami if you want quality. There is like one bar good for a lot of sets, the rest are nightclubs that are too packed and you cannot even hear.

It's not just Miami and it's also not a recent thing. As far back as when I was 22-23 in the mid-2000s, I was realizing going to loud venues was not worth it for the most part. Online dating websites were created in the 1990s because people in the 1970s-1990s were realizing how difficult bar approaching was. Even in the 1970s-1990s, random non-bar approaches weren't very common. Daygame has always been a bit of a niche activity.

you will have to sacrifice lay count when it comes to it (daygame) but it has its many benefits. However, I have known guys that get regular results with it and it is quality as well. Problem that exists is that I have had too much going on in my life towards the latter half of 2022 that my mind has not been in it. I have gotten laid from daygame this year and the sex was some of the best ever. However, I have been inconsistent in my habits and too in my head to where I have no one to blame but myself.

Non-bar approaching (daygame) is very difficult. There's a good case to be made that daygame is more difficult than night game. They are both quite challenging. I think swipe apps are more difficult. Instagram game can be useful if you have thousands of Followers, good pics, and far more Followers than your Following count. That's quite difficult to achieve. A guy who follows 5,000 and has a follower count of 3,000 is not impressive.

Social circle is the easiest form of game once you set up the social circle, just like Instagram game becomes easier when you get solid pics and a great Follower stat. Social circle game is best for getting a girlfriend. Most men with a social circle use it for a girlfriend, date her for a few years, then put a ring on it and retire from game, choosing to golf or watch sports/drink beer/eat caloric foods. Some of these men become more beta, lose any sort of pre-marriage fitness level, and then have their wives lose attraction for them. The wives tend go out and have affairs, because it's easy for even a 40 something woman with children to find exciting, extramarital sex.

 

[Rainman4707]

@Jesse Pinkman
Roughly Day 16 of no fap. In recent times i have fapped at day 14 just to relieve the pressure from my balls.
I'm enjoying the feeling of POWER I have. Feel more powerful. Woman visitor came into work on friday discussing about a meeting. I feel like their is a sexual predator inside my body. We had eye contact. I think she saw in my eyes that I wanted to bend her over table in front of everyone and rip her underwear off with my teeth.

I know if i was fapping. The predator would be extinguished. It's like joe rogan said "not fapping, you're more likely to do something you wouldn't fo, if you were fapping.

It dose'nt help that the last girl I had sex with a few weeks ago was the best I've ever had haha. Talking about sticking it in her ass and talking dirty to me during sex. She has put me in a right sexual mood. I want to reinact that with next girl...fu-k the s-it out of the next girl I get into bed. I'm gonna do some bad things to her.